After firing conservatives for politics ESPN launches liberal political site

tres borrachos said:

There are black jockeys and black owners, yes. Black trainers too. For many years horse racing was a rich man's sport. Most of the greatest barns in this country were founded by people with names like Vanderbilt and Whitney.

There's nothing today that would give me any reason to support the idea that blacks would have a different viewpoint of the outcome of a race versus people of any other color.

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I've already explained, numerous times, what different perspectives people can take regarding sports. Sports is more than simply "X team beat Y team" or "X horse won Y race." And you damn well know this, so why persist with such ridiculous minimalization of the impact of sports on culture?

Muhammad Ali just died. Do you think a black person might have a different perspective on Muhammad Ali than a white person?

Kobie said:

I've already explained, numerous times, what different perspectives people can take regarding sports. Sports is more than simply "X team beat Y team" or "X horse won Y race." And you damn well know this, so why persist with such ridiculous minimalization of the impact of sports on culture?

Muhammad Ali just died. Do you think a black person might have a different perspective on Muhammad Ali than a white person?

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I "damn well know this"? No, I don't "damn well know this". if you want to segregate by color, feel free. I don't think people of color are different than white people. I also don't have an opinion of Muhammed Ali that comes from me being white. You do? That's fine. Don't try to drag me into the segregation hole with you.

tres borrachos said:

I "damn well know this"? No, I don't "damn well know this". if you want to segregate by color, feel free. I don't think people of color are different than white people. I also don't have an opinion of Muhammed Ali that comes from me being white. You do? That's fine. Don't try to drag me into the segregation hole with you.

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Well, I tried to explain it, but I guess sometimes it just can't be done.

I'd like to note that ESPN is only as good as its live sports deals. I can't even stand to watch ESPN's sports commentators. I could not care less about its politics.

TheGoverness said:

Apparently Star Wars VII is a "feminist propaganda film", because Rey's character is a 'Mary Sue'.

But for some odd reason the actual definition of 'Mary Sue' has changed drastically.

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Not to derail anything from sports ever *dripping with sarcasm* but the argument I heard was that she was obviously "more powerful" than Luke at the same age/training. My come back is that Luke lived on a farm and was even mostly naïve about the scum of mos eisley etc and Rey lived in a constant fight for survival. Forget about how the Force manifests in each Jedi differently and we hadn't to date on the big screen seen how the Force manifests in a female character or in someone who had no teacher when it manifested.
I'm pretty sure most of the folks up in arms are all upset because the machismo days of male leads and female support are reaching an eclipse.

I liked the movie far far more than the so-called prequels but that's me.

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If ESPN is just trying to reach more demographics then more power to them. If they are firing people to do so or targeting those who don't really fit the "personality" of the network then it probably fits under just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Ntharotep said:

I'm pretty sure most of the folks up in arms are all upset because the machismo days of male leads and female support are reaching an eclipse.

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But it doesn't really make sense when we're talking about Star Wars, because it's been shown that female Force-users are just as capable as male Force-users.

I liked the movie far far more than the so-called prequels but that's me.

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I agree. The prequels were garbage overall. Even though I really did enjoy Episode III.

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If ESPN is just trying to reach more demographics then more power to them. If they are firing people to do so or targeting those who don't really fit the "personality" of the network then it probably fits under just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

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I can agree with that.

tres borrachos said:

I "damn well know this"? No, I don't "damn well know this". if you want to segregate by color, feel free. I don't think people of color are different than white people. I also don't have an opinion of Muhammed Ali that comes from me being white. You do? That's fine. Don't try to drag me into the segregation hole with you.

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Again, it doesn't matter even if the content is exactly the same, because obviously the presentation will be unique.