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Media Blackout of Bill Clinton Pedophile Scandal?

Well I'm glad you finally clicked the link at least. When you thought I was posting a far right smear piece on Bill Clinton you were allergic to clicking links.

Actually, I know what vice.com is and said nothing about it a "far right smear piece". What I said was that anyone who believed that the contents of the article are proof enough of Slick Willy's guilt to merit the OP is clearly biased:

It only looks like a "mainstream media blackout" to people who believe any accusation, regardless of a complete absence of proof, simply because its target is someone on "the left".





Trump had a reason to know Epstein, as Trump is in the business of selling things to rich people. Epstein purchased a membership in Mar-A-Lago in the early 2000's, before any criminal allegations were brought against him. It on only makes sense that some interaction would have taken place there.

Clinton on the other hand doesn't appear to have any reason for associating with Epstein. They weren't in business together. Yet Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 10 times, and stayed at his house. There's enough evidence to launch an investigation into what Clinton did while staying at Epstein's home.

I'm not saying anyone is guilty by association, however I am saying that it's disturbing to think of a former president frolicking at a known pedophiles residence, and the media should be trying to get to the bottom of this.

Actually this IS alleging guilt based on association: "Yet Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 10 times, and stayed at his house. There's enough evidence to launch an investigation into what Clinton did while staying at Epstein's home. "


The comment about Trump's supposed reason for hanging out with Epstein to the point where Epstein feels the need to plead the 5th when asked about Trump's presence at likely perv fests is absurd, man. If you're going to implicate Slick Willy based on flying on an airplane, how can you NOT implicate Trump for a much closer association?

See post #50 for more reasons for my position.
 
Well they're talking about it because the best way to get a conservative's attention is to say "Did you hear that Bill Clinton (fill in the blank)" and imply a mainstream media conspiracy.

Bill Clinton frequented a plane used by a child rapist to rape children and stayed on an island know to be used by a child rapist to rape children.

That this doesn't interest the usual suspects in the news media, or the fact that a child rapist billionaire somehow walked away with immunity rather than a life sentence, doesn't surprise anyone, nor is it surprising to see Clinton apologists at work defending the rapist and his low life wife.
 
That's the most hair-brained statement I've heard. If you take BJ's from your aid, it means that you really more likely to rape 14 year old girls. REALLY?

Haven't been watching the news lately, have we?

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

Those 3 accuse Billy of sexual misconduct. So if he's done that to young women, who says he hasn't done it to young girls?

Prior history of sexual misconduct + multiple documented trips with Epstein on a plane and to an island known for being sexual junkets = Bill Clinton is quite possibly a pedophile.
 
Actually, I know what vice.com is and said nothing about it a "far right smear piece". What I said was that anyone who believed that the contents of the article are proof enough of Slick Willy's guilt to merit the OP is clearly biased:









Actually this IS alleging guilt based on association: "Yet Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 10 times, and stayed at his house. There's enough evidence to launch an investigation into what Clinton did while staying at Epstein's home. "


The comment about Trump's supposed reason for hanging out with Epstein to the point where Epstein feels the need to plead the 5th when asked about Trump's presence at likely perv fests is absurd, man. If you're going to implicate Slick Willy based on flying on an airplane, how can you NOT implicate Trump for a much closer association?

See post #50 for more reasons for my position.


I proposed that an investigation into Bill Clinton's involvement with Epstein should happen, based on reasonable suspicion not a presumption of guilt. This is how investigations work.

It's public knowledge that Bill Clinton has been accused of unwanted groping, sexual harassment, and rape by women he's known in the past. Those facts add further suspicion in my opinion. Anybody ever accuse Trump of those things? Not to my knowledge.
 
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I'm not saying anyone is guilty by association, however I am saying that it's disturbing to think of a former president frolicking at a known pedophiles residence, and the media should be trying to get to the bottom of this.
Would you care to tell us the date of the flight logs Clinton flew - and when Epstein was actually first investigated and then found guilty of his crimes?

Thanks in advance.
 
Haven't been watching the news lately, have we?

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

Those 3 accuse Billy of sexual misconduct. So if he's done that to young women, who says he hasn't done it to young girls?

Prior history of sexual misconduct + multiple documented trips with Epstein on a plane and to an island known for being sexual junkets = Bill Clinton is quite possibly a pedophile.

Firstly, you seem to have a pretty misinformed notion of the word "lately." Secondly, again, I'm referring to things that there's evidence Bill Clinton actually did. He got a BJ from his secretary. You can't support new unproven charges with old unproven charges. That's not how rationality this works.
 
Haven't been watching the news lately, have we?

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

Those 3 accuse Billy of sexual misconduct. So if he's done that to young women, who says he hasn't done it to young girls?

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In none of those "cases" was Clinton found guilty of sexual misconduct.

One suit - Jones - is the only one where a case was brought. And it was thrown out in court in short order, and found to be "without merit."

Clinton settled, after the country had been through enough, for less than Jones asked for, and with no apology. "Get out of my hair" money.

She would have lost her case on appeal, and she knew it -- that's why she settled.

Ten minutes after the case was settled, Ms. Jones was spreading her legs for Penthouse magazine and for men to jack off to...
 
Actually, I know what vice.com is and said nothing about it a "far right smear piece". What I said was that anyone who believed that the contents of the article are proof enough of Slick Willy's guilt to merit the OP is clearly biased:


Actually this IS alleging guilt based on association: "Yet Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 10 times, and stayed at his house. There's enough evidence to launch an investigation into what Clinton did while staying at Epstein's home. "


The comment about Trump's supposed reason for hanging out with Epstein to the point where Epstein feels the need to plead the 5th when asked about Trump's presence at likely perv fests is absurd, man. If you're going to implicate Slick Willy based on flying on an airplane, how can you NOT implicate Trump for a much closer association?

See post #50 for more reasons for my position.

To add, wingnuts would have you believe all the flights were to "the island."

"Clinton shared Epstein's plane with Kellen and Maxwell on at least 11 flights in 2002 and 2003—before any of the allegations against them became public—according to the pilots' logbooks, which have surfaced in civil litigation surrounding Epstein's crimes. In January 2002, for instance, Clinton, his aide Doug Band, and Clinton's Secret Service detail are listed on a flight from Japan to Hong Kong with Epstein, Maxwell, Kellen, and two women described only as "Janice" and "Jessica."

One month later, records show, Clinton hopped a ride from Miami to Westchester on a flight that also included Epstein, Maxwell, Kellen, and a woman described only as "one female."
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In 2002, as New York has reported, Clinton recruited Epstein to make his plane available for a week-long anti-poverty and anti-AIDS tour of Africa with Kevin Spacey..."

Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz onÂ*PedophileÂ*Billionaire’s Sex Jet
 
Care to respond to the comment I addressed to you? I don't know what you're getting at with asking me if I know that the Clintons are rich.

You brought up the fact that Epstein was in the business of selling things to rich people, which is why Trump would know him. Clinton is also rich, so is this not also a reason for Clinton to know Epstein?
 
He got a BJ from his secretary.

That's such an intentional misrepresentation.

He got a BJ from an INTERN less than half his age in the Oval Office, and then lied about it to a grand jury with an actual defense of "it depends what the definition of what the word "is" is...."

Kinda different than just a BJ from Edna the admin.

Now, after multiple accusations from women a la Bill Cosby, he's been proven to have travelled with a serial pedophile on a plane to an island where such acts occurred.

And you aren't at all bothered. You go into full defense mode.
 
That's such an intentional misrepresentation.

He got a BJ from an INTERN less than half his age in the Oval Office, and then lied about it to a grand jury with an actual defense of "it depends what the definition of what the word "is" is...."

Kinda different than just a BJ from Edna the admin.

Now, after multiple accusations from women a la Bill Cosby, he's been proven to have travelled with a serial pedophile on a plane to an island where such acts occurred.

And you aren't at all bothered. You go into full defense mode.

Before those accusations came to light, yes. So, you're mad Clinton wasn't psychic or are you declaring he was raping underage girls without evidence that actually occurred?
 
That's such an intentional misrepresentation.

He got a BJ from an INTERN less than half his age in the Oval Office, and then lied about it to a grand jury with an actual defense of "it depends what the definition of what the word "is" is...."

Kinda different than just a BJ from Edna the admin.

The only thing that made it "different" was that the GOP launched an investigation that cost tens of millions of dollars into the "BJ from Edna the admin."

But a BJ is not a high crime or misdemeanor. There was no allegation of the commission of a high crime or misdemeanor of ANY sort when the investigation was launched. There should never have been any investigation. They went down to the cesspool and whipped out their rods, hoping to put him into a position where he must confess cheating on his wife by getting the BJ OR lie, thereby potentially creating a high crime or misdemeanor. They lucked out.

It was a purely political maneuver by the GOP to try to bootstrap a scandal into existence.
 
You brought up the fact that Epstein was in the business of selling things to rich people, which is why Trump would know him. Clinton is also rich, so is this not also a reason for Clinton to know Epstein?

I said Trump was in the business of selling things to rich people.
Epstein is a rich person who bought a membership to a country club that Trump owns.
 
The only thing that made it "different" was that the GOP launched an investigation that cost tens of millions of dollars into the "BJ from Edna the admin."

But a BJ is not a high crime or misdemeanor. There was no allegation of the commission of a high crime or misdemeanor of ANY sort when the investigation was launched. There should never have been any investigation. They went down to the cesspool and whipped out their rods, hoping to put him into a position where he must confess cheating on his wife by getting the BJ OR lie, thereby potentially creating a high crime or misdemeanor. They lucked out.

It was a purely political maneuver by the GOP to try to bootstrap a scandal into existence.

Nonsense. Character matters.

China wants information and knows you're regularly cheating with an intern. For said information, they'll keep it quiet. Capiche?

We should always demand morality and integrity from our elected officials. We don't, and we're paying for it dearly on a daily basis.
 
That's such an intentional misrepresentation.

He got a BJ from an INTERN less than half his age in the Oval Office

Yes, an intern. And?

and then lied about it to a grand jury with an actual defense of "it depends what the definition of what the word "is" is...."

Yeah, that was pretty funny. But he wouldn't have lied if Republicans hadn't bothered to get him in front of that ridiculous, utterly irrelevant, complete waste of tax payer grand jury. If it were a real trial about anything halfway relevant to the American people's interests, I could see why people would be outraged. But this was a completely BS abuse of the legal system to find out if Bill was cheating on Hillary. That's Bill and Hillary's business, it's not my business, it's not your business. What's funnier is that half of the Republicans screaming the loudest about Bill were all themselves cheating on their wives.

I don't care what people do in their down time. If Bill smoked a pound of weed in his spare time, I don't care. If he and Hillary swung with lesbians whilst on magic mushrooms, I don't care. If he snorts cocaine off of Hillary's hoo-ha, I don't care. If Bill Clinton has orgies with 20 consenting interns, I don't care. If those were 20 male interns, I still wouldn't care. And I like it even less that the Republicans feel free to spend by now hundreds of millions of dollars of public money looking for scandals to help themselves politically, from Monica Lewiski to Benghazi.

(The only thing I do care about was his s***ty presidency and the fact that he drug the Democratic party out to the right. That I care about.)

Kinda different than just a BJ from Edna the admin.

Not really. At least, the differences are not relevant to the question of whether or not Bill Clinton has gone around raping 14 year old girls.

Now, after multiple accusations from women a la Bill Cosby, he's been proven to have travelled with a serial pedophile on a plane to an island where such acts occurred.

That's called guilt by association.

And you aren't at all bothered. You go into full defense mode.

I despise the Clinton's. It'd be politically great for me if this were a scandal, because it would remove Hillary from the running. But so far as I can tell, there's no scandal right now. I'm waiting for something more than conjecture, a witness whose changed their story many times and who is completely unrelated to the current story, and guilt by association.

If this story has evidence, and you present that evidence (and that means a witness or a testimony that Clinton raped a girl), I'll gladly promulgate the story. But right now, it's not a story. It's scurrilous conjecture.
 
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The only thing that made it "different" was that the GOP launched an investigation that cost tens of millions of dollars into the "BJ from Edna the admin."

But a BJ is not a high crime or misdemeanor. There was no allegation of the commission of a high crime or misdemeanor of ANY sort when the investigation was launched. There should never have been any investigation. They went down to the cesspool and whipped out their rods, hoping to put him into a position where he must confess cheating on his wife by getting the BJ OR lie, thereby potentially creating a high crime or misdemeanor. They lucked out.

It was a purely political maneuver by the GOP to try to bootstrap a scandal into existence.


Nonsense. Character matters.

Nonsense. Only high crimes and misdemeanors matter when you accuse a sitting President of a crime worthy of impeachment; adultery is never been defined as such an offense, nor would it make any sense for it to be. It's not a matter of state.

China wants information and knows you're regularly cheating with an intern. For said information, they'll keep it quiet. Capiche?

Oh please. Clinton wasn't some spy whose identity could be compromised due to a relationship he wrongfully got into. He's the damn President. (And he tried to keep quiet anyway and deny when it was the US congress going after him. Why would he cave to lame Chinese extortion?)



should always demand morality and integrity from our elected officials. We don't, and we're paying for it dearly on a daily basis.

Yeah, at election time. Not by starting a sham investigation of a sitting President to tarnish him. (Nevermind that one of the most praised Presidents in modern history - not that I agree with the praise - had the SS running his women in and out of the WH)

It is "nonsense" to say that what they did was justified because they stumbled on juicy stuff for GOP voters.


A man buys five lottery tickets per day for life. He wins when he's 60. Is that a reason to buy 5 lottery tickets a day? Or did it just work out for him in the end?

It's like the Benghazi crap. 7 Commissions. None of the allegations were proven. BUT, they accidentally stumbled on the private email server business, so now we should only talk about that and not the absurdity of the investigations in the first place.
 
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