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New video of Al Sharpton comes to light

ActuallyCorrect said:
So no defense of Sharpton.... right? What if this was a video of Trump 20 years ago advising to kill black people? Would that be equally as nonconcerning to you?
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You find such a video and then we can talk....
 
Moot said:
Is Al Sharpton running for president or something? I don't see the relevance of going back forty years to find dirt on someone who hardly makes the news, anymore.

Whereas, going back into Trump's past to see if he was as racist then as he is now is relevant because he's running for president. So if it was the OPs intent to draw a comparison, then it was a big, fat fail.
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It's been twenty years, and judging from afar nothing has changed. It's also completely relevant, because this the racial adviser to the current POTUS, and having a racist try to fix racial tension in America is laughable at best.
 
thenotorious said:
It's been twenty years, and judging from afar nothing has changed. It's also completely relevant, because this the racial adviser to the current POTUS, and having a racist try to fix racial tension in America is laughable at best.
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This fact check article below gives a short run down of the long held grudge that Rudy Guilliani has against Sharpton...and gives the claim that Sharpton is racial advisor to Obama...one Pinocchio....

In an interview with The Fact Checker, Sharpton blamed Giuliani for slinging insults over a grudge that started two decades ago: “Because I disagreed with him when he was mayor and I marched on him, he’s trying to mischaracterize me in a way that is unfair and untrue. Name a statement — isn’t it interesting that he could not cite a statement that I made that was anti-police or pro-violence or I hate cops? … Giuliani wants to have a reason to demonize the president, and wants to justify why, under his watch, you had the sodomy and rape of Abner Louima, which he did not handle well.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ite-house-invited-al-sharpton-up-to-85-times/


The OP bringing up Sharpton's past is simply race baiting and has no relevance to the election...or Trump.
 
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Moot said:
This fact check article below gives a short run down of the long held grudge that Rudy Guilliani has against Sharpton...and gives the claim that Sharpton is racial advisor to Obama...one Pinocchio....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ite-house-invited-al-sharpton-up-to-85-times/


The OP bringing up Sharpton's past is simply race baiting and has no relevance to the election...or Trump.
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That's hardly fact-checking, more so mindless pandering to one's own self-beliefs.

Revved Up - POLITICO Magazine

Even in the own 'fact checking' it's obvious Al Sharpton is an adviser, even if it is unofficially. Al Sharpton doesn't just hold influence over the POTUS, but is a central figure in the black community. His misgivings have a direct impact on the black community, therefore both an impact on the election and any candidate running, including Trump.
 
thenotorious said:
That's hardly fact-checking, more so mindless pandering to one's own self-beliefs.

Revved Up - POLITICO Magazine

Even in the own 'fact checking' it's obvious Al Sharpton is an adviser, even if it is unofficially. Al Sharpton doesn't just hold influence over the POTUS, but is a central figure in the black community. His misgivings have a direct impact on the black community, therefore both an impact on the election and any candidate running, including Trump.
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I don't think the black community considers Sharpton their leader or speaks for them. Sharpton is a white conservative's idea of what a black leader is. The only reason you think he is one is because right wing commentators have designated him as such. So I doubt he'll have much impact on the election or any candidate...unless he endorses Trump. lol

Al Sharpton secretly endorsing Donald Trump?


In a country that increasingly accepts itself as multiracial, where blacks are no longer even the largest minority, the role of the Negro Spokesman is as outmoded as the Victrola. Most black intellectuals, particularly younger ones, are glad to be rid of it.​

Pompadour With a Monkey Wrench - The Atlantic


Trump called Sharpton for advice....

"...Yet the very fact that Trump cared what Sharpton thought of him — coupled with the developer’s recently semi-softened rhetoric on health care (he’s vaguely promised to create a new system that would ensure nobody “dies on the street”) — is significant. And the reverend thinks Trump will ultimately ditch the wilder elements of his platform, just as he would say or do anything to get a building built or a Mike Tyson fight booked.

Trump, in Sharpton’s eyes, is “the kind of guy that adjusts and tries to deal with whatever he has to deal with, as he says, to make a deal. There’s no doubt in my mind, if he wins the nomination, that Trump will move to the center.”​

Sharpton: Trump is the white Don King - POLITICO
 
Mr Person said:
2. Taking the wrong lesson from the Clintons. Bill pushed a very specific health care plan and failed. But times changed. Obama ran on health care plans. Instead of having a huge detailed plan ready to go, he basically said "do something like that **** I said on the campaign trail"...and worse, didn't even bother to grease elbows in his own party. Sorry, but "hope and change" can't fix things. So we got something that did get a lot of people insured, but didn't have much in the way of cost-cutting and was a big handout to insurance companies.

l.
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No wonder Rubio thought he could skate by half assing everything, it sort of worked for Obama, few are giving him any grief for it.

As for sharpton, his opinion of Trump is the first opinion of his that I can recall caring about. This guy should understand Trump, now whether he cares to be honest about what he thinks of Trump IDK.
 
He sure has a mastery of the English language and volume equals credibility.
 
thenotorious said:
Both of you should learn the definition of racism: believing individual(s) are inferior or superior simply due to the color of their skin. It has nothing to do with whatever system you've imagined to divide people further, but if you must continue imagining, I would advise you use proper diction - AKA - Societal racism or institutional racism.



Oppression does not need to be 'national' or 'global' to be dignified. Multiple examples of oppression can be exclusively regional, statewide, or even local.
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What you're calling "racism" is actually prejuidice. Racism is a system (like all -isms).
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No wonder Rubio thought he could skate by half assing everything, it sort of worked for Obama, few are giving him any grief for it.

As for sharpton, his opinion of Trump is the first opinion of his that I can recall caring about. This guy should understand Trump, now whether he cares to be honest about what he thinks of Trump IDK.
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Actually, if I were to compare any candidate to Obama, it's Trump. Same vague "hopey changey" rhetoric that clearly means whatever the listener wants to hear.
 
rocket88 said:
Actually, if I were to compare any candidate to Obama, it's Trump. Same vague "hopey changey" rhetoric that clearly means whatever the listener wants to hear.
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They do both show that they want to be national cheerleaders...Obama of course fast became consumed by Washington because he is a prick , is lazy, and is not good at politics, but yes in many ways Trump 2016 is like Obama 2008. I am confident that unlike Obama Trump will do good once he gets to town.
 
ecofarm said:
I've an MSc and PhD(c) focused on anthropology.
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Three questions please?

I'm not familiar with a MSc degree. Can you elaborate?

So are you a PhD candidate because you have completed all coursework and have just not completed your dissertation, or, have you completed the coursework and you just didn't complete the dissertation before dropping out of the program?

If you are a candidate, when do you plan to complete the PhD program?
 
rocket88 said:
What you're calling "racism" is actually prejuidice. Racism is a system (like all -isms).
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Prejudice is a vague term, racism is it's more exact definition to describe racial prejudice. Your assumption is wrong.
 
ecofarm said:
I said no such thing. I would consider going back 40 years to "prove" Trump is currently a racist to be race baiting.

You're excusing the OP's race baiting by claiming others do it? That's pathetic.
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Are you trying to say Sharpton is not currently a racist?

Do you think he has changed his way of thinking since this video?
 
Moot said:
Is Al Sharpton running for president or something? I don't see the relevance of going back forty years to find dirt on someone who hardly makes the news, anymore.

Whereas, going back into Trump's past to see if he was as racist then as he is now is relevant because he's running for president. So if it was the OPs intent to draw a comparison, then it was a big, fat fail.
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Are threads only allowed if somebody is running for President?
 
Moot said:
This fact check article below gives a short run down of the long held grudge that Rudy Guilliani has against Sharpton...and gives the claim that Sharpton is racial advisor to Obama...one Pinocchio....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ite-house-invited-al-sharpton-up-to-85-times/


The OP bringing up Sharpton's past is simply race baiting and has no relevance to the election...or Trump.
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The title of this section of the board is "Bias in the Media"

Where did you get the idea the post has to have something to do with the election to be valid?
 
Mason66 said:
The title of this section of the board is "Bias in the Media"

Where did you get the idea the post has to have something to do with the election to be valid?
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And I'm really having a hard time seeing how a 20 year old video is "bias."
 
Moot said:
Is Al Sharpton running for president or something? I don't see the relevance of going back forty years to find dirt on someone who hardly makes the news, anymore.

Whereas, going back into Trump's past to see if he was as racist then as he is now is relevant because he's running for president. So if it was the OPs intent to draw a comparison, then it was a big, fat fail.
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The intent was not to draw a comparison, as much as it was just one of the right's favorite bogeymen.
 
rocket88 said:
The intent was not to draw a comparison, as much as it was just one of the right's favorite bogeymen.
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I forgot, what are they comparing him to?
 
rocket88 said:
You don't get to redefine words.
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I'm not the one 'redefining' words.

racism - definition of racism in English from the Oxford dictionary
Racism | Definition of Racism by Merriam-Webster
Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com

Please, refrain from an asinine rebuttal by citing evidence from a self-indulgent professor's 'journal' of how only white people can be racist, and racism 'means this, simply because I say so.

Manipulation is easy to see through, and won't work on even a moderate intellectual such as myself.
 
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