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Bias in the mainstream media

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With the exception of FOX News, which fought and won a law suit protecting its right to lie, the major networks and newspapers do not lie. What they print in news stories is nearly always true. If they make a mistake, they admit it.

Where bias comes to play is which events they choose to cover, and how they choose to cover them.

In 1998 Matthew Shepard was killed by two men he picked up in a bar. That was in the news for months. It was only years later that I learned of a thirteen year old boy who was raped and tortured to death by two adult homosexuals a year later.

The tragic story of Jesse Dirkhising

There was no organized conspiracy to cover up this information. Various news media simply decided not to cover it. Years ago I read an essay in The New York Times that said that liberals seldom want to read anything bad about blacks or homosexuals. Many newspapers do not print the race of criminal suspects.

The mainstream media has been eager to report the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Little attention has been given to the fact that 85% of the victims of these pedophile priests have been boys. That tells me that homosexuals are more likely to be sex abusers than heterosexuals. That is seldom even suggested, however.
 
The MSM is nothing more then a propaganda mill for liberal elitist. Don't believe me, just pay attention to how many times they will use phrases like "rightwing" extreme rightwing" then compare it to how many times they will use phrases like "leftwing" or "extreme leftwing radical"... by my account it's around 7890 to 0. This also applies to print media.
 
SmartCat said:
The mainstream media has been eager to report the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Little attention has been given to the fact that 85% of the victims of these pedophile priests have been boys. That tells me that homosexuals are more likely to be sex abusers than heterosexuals. That is seldom even suggested, however.
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Likewise transgender have astonishingly high suicide rates, which you will always see reported as if they have been abused and neglected, not that they are confused people who could deal with some sorting out, that their main problems are with-in themselves.
 
SmartCat said:
The mainstream media has been eager to report the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Little attention has been given to the fact that 85% of the victims of these pedophile priests have been boys. That tells me that homosexuals are more likely to be sex abusers than heterosexuals. That is seldom even suggested, however.
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The observations simply do not lead to your conclusion. If you want to suggest that homosexuals are more likely to be abusers than heterosexuals, you'll have to use a population that includes something other than Roman Catholic priests. If you look at the Catholic church, your observation is OK to some extent - pedophilia isn't actually about sexual orientation, but much of the sexual relationships aren't pedophilia since the kids are often teens - but there is something very unique about that population, and you can't extend any conclusions you reach about that tiny slice of humanity and extend it to the population as a whole.
 
SmartCat said:
With the exception of FOX News, which fought and won a law suit protecting its right to lie, the major networks and newspapers do not lie. What they print in news stories is nearly always true. If they make a mistake, they admit it.

Where bias comes to play is which events they choose to cover, and how they choose to cover them.

In 1998 Matthew Shepard was killed by two men he picked up in a bar. That was in the news for months. It was only years later that I learned of a thirteen year old boy who was raped and tortured to death by two adult homosexuals a year later.

The tragic story of Jesse Dirkhising

There was no organized conspiracy to cover up this information. Various news media simply decided not to cover it. Years ago I read an essay in The New York Times that said that liberals seldom want to read anything bad about blacks or homosexuals. Many newspapers do not print the race of criminal suspects.

The mainstream media has been eager to report the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Little attention has been given to the fact that 85% of the victims of these pedophile priests have been boys. That tells me that homosexuals are more likely to be sex abusers than heterosexuals. That is seldom even suggested, however.
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First, warn when linking to WND. Many of us prefer not to give page views to conspiricy theory websites.

Second, comparing the Shepard murder to the Dirkhising murder is stupid. One was a lynching, which is kinda rare, and one was a case of child abuse gone too far, which is not uncommon.

Third, pedophiles are not gay or straight, they are people attracted to kids. And research shows that in fact gays are nor more likely to molest children.
 
SmartCat said:
With the exception of FOX News, which fought and won a law suit protecting its right to lie, the major networks and newspapers do not lie. What they print in news stories is nearly always true. If they make a mistake, they admit it.

Where bias comes to play is which events they choose to cover, and how they choose to cover them.
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All news media lies. NBC was caught editing the Travon Martin tapes. CBS was sued by and lost to GM for a lie about pickup truck gas tanks. MSNBC lies all the time. Fox News lies. NYT lies. WaPo lies. HuffPo lies. This is as far as I will go with your OP because it is flat dishonest. Great way to start a post about honesty. Not really.
 
Redress said:
First, warn when linking to WND. Many of us prefer not to give page views to conspiricy theory websites.

Second, comparing the Shepard murder to the Dirkhising murder is stupid. One was a lynching, which is kinda rare, and one was a case of child abuse gone too far, which is not uncommon.

Third, pedophiles are not gay or straight, they are people attracted to kids. And research shows that in fact gays are nor more likely to molest children.
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I joined debate politics three months ago. Could someone tell me where the Rules of the forum are posted. I like this forum. I do not want to be banned for doing something that I thought was acceptable.
 
SmartCat said:
I joined debate politics three months ago. Could someone tell me where the Rules of the forum are posted. I like this forum. I do not want to be banned for doing something that I thought was acceptable.
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That isn't a rule but more of a courtesy when it comes to WND. Most people here see them as a conspiracy theory sight.
 
SmartCat said:
I joined debate politics three months ago. Could someone tell me where the Rules of the forum are posted. I like this forum. I do not want to be banned for doing something that I thought was acceptable.
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No one suggested you broke any rules.
 
NonoBadDog said:
That isn't a rule but more of a courtesy when it comes to WND. Most people here see them as a conspiracy theory sight.
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Birtherism is a conspiracy theory.
 
Redress said:
Birtherism is a conspiracy theory.
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I never go to that sight. I went to it about four times for articles that were linked and it was just a bunch of fabricated paranoid crap.
 
Redress said:
No one suggested you broke any rules.
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I found the Rules. Thank you.

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Gringo allstar said:
The MSM is nothing more then a propaganda mill for liberal elitist. Don't believe me, just pay attention to how many times they will use phrases like "rightwing" extreme rightwing" then compare it to how many times they will use phrases like "leftwing" or "extreme leftwing radical"... by my account it's around 7890 to 0. This also applies to print media.
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your posts display such an astute understanding of reality

... from January through November 2015, there were 234 nightly news Trump minutes on the broadcast networks, but just 10 minutes for Bernie Sanders. ...
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https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/he...trump-media-disorder-and-how-to-survive-them/

here is how Sanders could get better media attention, especially since his poll numbers out trump trump's:
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http://api.ning.com/files/Da96z*Af3...zis49UIP4c/Trumpcoverage23xSanderscartoon.gif
 
SmartCat said:
I joined debate politics three months ago. Could someone tell me where the Rules of the forum are posted. I like this forum. I do not want to be banned for doing something that I thought was acceptable.
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See below:

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SmartCat said:
I found the Rules. Thank you.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/misc.php?do=vsarules

I have questions about this:

18. Hate Messages - Hate Messages delivered via threads, posts, signatures, or PM's are forbidden at Debate Politics. The Moderator Team defines a hate message as a comment using one of the following towards a “protected group” or an individual based on their identity in a “protected group” in an extreme manner:

A) The support for or a call for violence.
B) The suggestion of removal of essential civil liberties.
C) Claims of severe dehumanization.
D) Claims of illegal behavior across the entire group.

Protected groups under this rule:
a) Race
b) Ethnicity
c) Religion (also atheists)
d) Sexual orientation
e) National origin
f) Gender (including transgendered)
g) Disability

Are posters allowed to discuss how different groups differ in average ability levels and behavior, or is that forbidden?

While I am on the subject, are posters allowed to discuss banning decisions of other posters? On some internet forums that is not allowed. I could not find anything in the Rules discussing that.

Debate politics is the most interesting internet forum I have ever discovered. I want to be a good citizen.
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Best to direct those questions to a mod. A politely worded PM to a mod will give you a better answer than I could give.
 
Gringo allstar said:
The MSM is nothing more then a propaganda mill for liberal elitist. Don't believe me, just pay attention to how many times they will use phrases like "rightwing" extreme rightwing" then compare it to how many times they will use phrases like "leftwing" or "extreme leftwing radical"... by my account it's around 7890 to 0. This also applies to print media.
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During the War in Vietnam I was an anti war activist. I belonged to the Vietnam Moratorium Committee. For a spell I belonged to the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. That was headed by Michael Harrington. Harrington's book, The Other America helped to inspire the War on Poverty.

Back then several of my friends, and several people I knew who were not so friendly believed that the mainstream media was "a propaganda mill" for capitalism, and the ruling class, which was their term for the one percent. Their argument was that the organs of the mainstream media were owned by capitalists, and that they got advertising revenue from capitalists. Therefore, most Americans were only exposed to facts and arguments supportive of capitalism. Arguments and facts supportive of socialism were excluded from general political discourse.

That is an argument which, in my opinion, still merits some respect. On social issues, broadly defined, the mainstream media seems to be generally liberal, as I claimed in my opening comment. Social issues are issues where one can be liberal, or even to the left of liberalism, without advocating policies that challenge the growing wealth of the one percent, even as median income adjusted for inflation has declined every year since Bill Clinton, of beloved memory, left office.
 
Redress said:
Best to direct those questions to a mod. A politely worded PM to a mod will give you a better answer than I could give.
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Please forgive me for asking stupid questions. I have only been here for three months. How does one contact a mod?
 
American media are all privately-owned capitalist enterprises and that is where their bias lies.
 
justabubba said:
your posts display such an astute understanding of reality


https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/he...trump-media-disorder-and-how-to-survive-them/

here is how Sanders could get better media attention, especially since his poll numbers out trump trump's:
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Here's a few points that you left out:

1. The amount of press Trump receives has nothing to do with party affiliation, it has to do with the fame he's accumulated over the years as an outspoken multi-millionaire and TV celebrity.

2. Every other candidate in the republican party is virtually ignored.

3. Even though Trump gets mega coverage, the overwhelming majority of that coverage is negative.

4. Bernie Sanders doesn't get media coverage because a) he's a self proclaimed socialist, b) he's getting killed in the polls and c) the MSM coronated Hillary Clinton as their candidate 2 years ago.


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SmartCat said:
Please forgive me for asking stupid questions. I have only been here for three months. How does one contact a mod?
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The "Contact Us" link at the bottom of every page.
 
SmartCat said:
With the exception of FOX News, which fought and won a law suit protecting its right to lie, the major networks and newspapers do not lie. What they print in news stories is nearly always true. If they make a mistake, they admit it.

Where bias comes to play is which events they choose to cover, and how they choose to cover them.

In 1998 Matthew Shepard was killed by two men he picked up in a bar. That was in the news for months. It was only years later that I learned of a thirteen year old boy who was raped and tortured to death by two adult homosexuals a year later.

The tragic story of Jesse Dirkhising

There was no organized conspiracy to cover up this information. Various news media simply decided not to cover it. Years ago I read an essay in The New York Times that said that liberals seldom want to read anything bad about blacks or homosexuals. Many newspapers do not print the race of criminal suspects.

The mainstream media has been eager to report the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Little attention has been given to the fact that 85% of the victims of these pedophile priests have been boys. That tells me that homosexuals are more likely to be sex abusers than heterosexuals. That is seldom even suggested, however.
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The major networks and newspapers do not lie. Egads man, upon which planet do you reside?

Otherwise, I fairly well agree with the rest of your post, but that statement suggests extreme naivety. They "lie" all the time, both by way of commission and omission.
 
Thoreau72 said:
The major networks and newspapers do not lie. Egads man, upon which planet do you reside?

Otherwise, I fairly well agree with the rest of your post, but that statement suggests extreme naivety. They "lie" all the time, both by way of commission and omission.
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Please list several lies of the mass media, other than FOX News. Quote the statement, date it, and explain why it was a lie.
 
Grim17 said:
4. Bernie Sanders doesn't get media coverage because a) he's a self proclaimed socialist, b) he's getting killed in the polls
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January 2, 2016

A national poll carried out by Quinnipiac University predicts that not only will Bernie Sanders defeat Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Party nomination come June, but will beat Donald Trump by a landslide to become America’s next President in November, 2016. A report published in The Hill showed that Sanders will defeat the Republican candidate in a general election by 13 percentage points, with the former leading with 51 percent to Trump’s 38 percent.

If this indeed turns out to be the margin that Bernie Sanders wins by, Democrats would almost certainly regain control of the United States Senate and very possibly the House of Representatives.

Read more at President Bernie Sanders? New Poll Tips Sanders To Defeat Clinton And Prevail Over Trump [Report]
 
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