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Bias in the mainstream media

Yes I agree. However, doesn't a pedophile decide what child he wants to rape based on his personal taste ? If pedophiles are more attracted to little girls, it's logical for them to abduct little girls. Why do they abduct little boys ?

In a prison context, wouldn't prisoners rape women if they were available ?

(This thread is quite disturbing)

these attractions have nothing to do with the individual's sexual orientation, though. A pedophile's attraction to a minor is completely separate from their sexual orientation. We know that from the research that I provided earlier in the thread. And it is irrelevant as to whether or not a prisoner would have sex with a female if one was available. The fact that a heterosexual would have sex with a male BECAUSE that's what's available demonstrates the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior... and the different motivations and causes of sexual behavior.
 
Are you saying that pedophiles don't care if it's a boy or a girl ? As long as it's a child ?

No. I'm saying that most pedophiles are specifically oriented toward abusing a child of a specific gender, and this may be the opposite of the gender of which they are attracted to in regards to their sexual orientation. There ARE some pedophiles who will abuse a child regardless of that child's gender, but that is less common than one who aims towards a specific gender.
 
No. I'm saying that most pedophiles are specifically oriented toward abusing a child of a specific gender, and this may be the opposite of the gender of which they are attracted to in regards to their sexual orientation. There ARE some pedophiles who will abuse a child regardless of that child's gender, but that is less common than one who aims towards a specific gender.

So if a male pedophile orients his abuse towards male children, he's more attracted to male children than female children. Which means his gender preference is the same gender as his own.
He's a pedophile with homosexual preferences in this case. I don't see how you can argue this point ?
 
So if a male pedophile orients his abuse towards male children, he's more attracted to male children than female children. Which means his gender preference is the same gender as his own.

No, it means his gender preference in regards to his pedophilia is towards males. It has nothing to do with his attraction towards adults which may very well be females, making him a heterosexual who is also a pedophile with attraction towards boys.

He's a pedophile with homosexual preferences in this case. I don't see how you can argue this point ?

Easily and quite successfully. Research shows that the majority of males who abuse boys are heterosexual. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with who they want to abuse.
 
No, it means his gender preference in regards to his pedophilia is towards males. It has nothing to do with his attraction towards adults which may very well be females, making him a heterosexual who is also a pedophile with attraction towards boys.

Easily and quite successfully. Research shows that the majority of males who abuse boys are heterosexual. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with who they want to abuse.

Alright then I understand your points. The gender preference an adult has for other adults is different from the gender preference he has for children. Sorry it took some time for me to understand :)
Now I see your points. The fact a pedophile is attracted to women does not mean he prefers girls, since his sexual behavior is different then his sexual orientation.
 
Alright then I understand your points. The gender preference an adult has for other adults is different from the gender preference he has for children. Sorry it took some time for me to understand :)
Now I see your points. The fact a pedophile is attracted to women does not mean he prefers girls, since his sexual behavior is different then his sexual orientation.

Yay! You got it. Thank you for reading critically and understanding my points.
 
No, that did nothing of the sort. Since sexual behavior is not a definitive subset of sexual orientation, one can be homosexual and have sex with someone of the opposite sex and retain their homosexuality. You are practicing black and white thinking and demonstrating that, as usual, you have no knowledge on research or information on the topic we are discussing.



Incorrect. Gacy was a heterosexual who's aggression was aimed towards teenage boys and young men. His aggression was sexual in nature.
I agree with both of these statements to a point. Someone who is heterosexual can have had homosexual experiences, decided he didn't like it and return to having exclusive heterosexual relations, never to look back. I imagine that maybe this happens most often to people who go to prison and then get out. We also know many people who are gay also start out trying to have sex with people of the opposite sex and then decide it's not for them.

As for Gacey. He wasn't attracted to women. He made that clear in his interviews, and it was confirmed by his second wife that he stopped having sex with her. Gacey also had sex with teenaged boys long before he began killing them. He was probably gay, albeit also a rapist and murderer.
 
This may by the dumbest thing you've said in this entire thread, and demonstrates that you know nothing about sexuality and sexual behavior. In prisons, for example, a prisoner will have sex with a same-sex prisoner, not because of attraction, but because of aggression, because of power, because of opportunity, or to obtain protection. Nothing about attraction, AND the vast majority who engage in these behaviors are HETEROSEXUAL. You should really recuse yourself from this thread. Your lack of knowledge on this topic is more vast than all the sand on the planet.



One example of this was given above. Pretty common. Another example is what we are discussing. Also common. Both are well documented. Your ignorance on this topic is once again exposed.
You're reading more into my statements than is necessary. I'm talking about people who choose to have sex with both sexes because they are attracted to them both. Those are bisexuals. They are definitely not heterosexuals. Gacey truly was attracted to boys. He also enjoyed killing them. He was not attracted to women, even though he married two. He was probably homosexual, but also he was a violent sex offender and murderer.
 
True. Yet these two things have nothing to do with each other since sexual orientation and sexual behavior are two different things. Further, sexual activity towards children is pedophilia an issue that is completely separate from one's sexual orientation.

Excuse me. The thought, inspired by desire, is father to the deed.
 
Yay! You got it. Thank you for reading critically and understanding my points.

If I understand your points correctly, you are making one of two possible assertions.

Assertion number one: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively attracted to females above the age of seventeen, and exclusively attracted to boys under the age of eighteen.

Assertion number two: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively heterosexuals who are not aroused by boys, but they risk severe penalties by abusing them anyway.

Sorry guy. Neither of those assertions pass the laugh test. When I think of them it is difficult for me to suppress my laughter.:lol:
 
If I understand your points correctly, you are making one of two possible assertions.

Assertion number one: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively attracted to females above the age of seventeen, and exclusively attracted to boys under the age of eighteen.

Assertion number two: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively heterosexuals who are not aroused by boys, but they risk severe penalties by abusing them anyway.

Sorry guy. Neither of those assertions pass the laugh test. When I think of them it is difficult for me to suppress my laughter.:lol:

The best I can come up with when analyzing his opinion on this is that the "heterosexual" who abuses boys is aroused by the abuse, not the boy. Which would almost make sense, if the person also abused girls. However, since the ones we are talking about sexually abused only boys, it makes no sense to call them heterosexual.
 
This is me. When I do see a story, I cross reference it with other news sources almost immediately by habit. I also snopes the hell out of things...sad to say but you can't just take the "good media's" word for things anymore than you can take a politician's.
Being suspicious by nature; I occasionally google a "Snope expert" and usually find unmistakable left-wing biases!

ie; I have found that Snopes is pretty much of the same left-wing mind-set as the main stream media__seriously!

They tried that in the earlier days of US television if memory serves. And, eventually, "reporter's rights" became a thing.
Isn't that akin to a court declaring the legal rights of manufacturers take precedence over those of consumers?!

Now days, most news outlets get around this by having their news reports right up to the end of their program and then have the "opinion segment" which is probably watched more than the news, itself anyway because we love our entertainment.
Of course if there weren't libercons then the news wouldn't have biases to pander to ;)
Rather than "entertainment", I personally view "the news" as simply a source for cold hard facts!

And I want those facts regardless of the political entity they pertain to__be it left, right or nota!

Then and only then can I be an informed citizen rather than a mindless programmed vote-bot!
 
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