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Obama continues his vacation in Hawaii while Missouri drowns in flood waters

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I'm curious. Where's the media outcry and criticism of President Obama continuing his vacation in Hawaii while dozens of people have died in storms this past week and thousands of people have been evacuated and dozens have lost their lives in floodwaters in Missouri?

Missouri news:

Deadly, rare winter flood slams Missouri - CBS News

Obama news:

President Obama's Hawaiian vacation continues with luau on Oahu' - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

President Bush gets slaughtered for his "flyover" of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and blamed for deaths and destruction there and President Obama enjoys playing golf and is feted with Hawaiian cuisine while Missourians suffer.
 
The hypocrisy is great. But, I don't think Obama can do a whole lot. Unless he's going to swim door to door and rescue people, he can coordinate just fine from Hawaii. But, keep this in the back pocket because which ever Republican wins the election this year will be held to the higher standard.
 
Aint this the job of the governor and not the President? Funny how conservative want more power to the states, and yet when a disaster happens then it is "it is all the Presidents fault" bull**** starts.

How about no one should be living in flood plains?
 
PeteEU said:
Aint this the job of the governor and not the President? Funny how conservative want more power to the states, and yet when a disaster happens then it is "it is all the Presidents fault" bull**** starts.

How about no one should be living in flood plains?
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It wasn't the job of the governor during Katrina. It was all Bush's fault. Just ask Kanye West.
 
We've gotten to the point where we don't expect Obama to do anything except think about himself, so it doesn't bother us anymore when he does just that.

We are just hoping he doesn't "do" anything more until the White House door smacks him on the backside one last time.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm curious. Where's the media outcry and criticism of President Obama continuing his vacation in Hawaii while dozens of people have died in storms this past week and thousands of people have been evacuated and dozens have lost their lives in floodwaters in Missouri?

Missouri news:

Deadly, rare winter flood slams Missouri - CBS News

Obama news:

President Obama's Hawaiian vacation continues with luau on Oahu' - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

President Bush gets slaughtered for his "flyover" of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and blamed for deaths and destruction there and President Obama enjoys playing golf and is feted with Hawaiian cuisine while Missourians suffer.
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The man works hard.
The National Security Agency's (NSA) continued surveillance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli leaders may also have swept up private conversations involving members of Congress, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday night.
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Report: NSA recorded members of Congress with Israeli leaders - CBS News
Obama might have listened to or read all that stuff so he deserves some serious down time.
 
PeteEU said:
Aint this the job of the governor and not the President? Funny how conservative want more power to the states, and yet when a disaster happens then it is "it is all the Presidents fault" bull**** starts.

How about no one should be living in flood plains?
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That's funny, since liberals didn't hold the Democrat Governor of Louisiana nor the Democrat Mayor of New Orleans responsible for what was happening in New Orleans after Katrina - they and their media pimps went straight for the jugular with President Bush and defined his Presidency on that issue.

Your hypocrisy and deflection is duly noted and dismissed.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm curious. Where's the media outcry and criticism of President Obama continuing his vacation in Hawaii while dozens of people have died in storms this past week and thousands of people have been evacuated and dozens have lost their lives in floodwaters in Missouri?

Missouri news:

Deadly, rare winter flood slams Missouri - CBS News

Obama news:

President Obama's Hawaiian vacation continues with luau on Oahu' - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

President Bush gets slaughtered for his "flyover" of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and blamed for deaths and destruction there and President Obama enjoys playing golf and is feted with Hawaiian cuisine while Missourians suffer.
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I know it's tempting to expect political leaders to be working 24/7 365, and sure, they need to be hard workers but not every domestic storm, tornado, train crash, overseas tragedy, diplomatic fubar requires the President to fly in on Airforce One. Let the emergency services do their job and not get distracted by having a presidential entourage land on them.

I don't know whether you've heard, but the UK has been having a major flooding disaster ongoing for 2 weeks. Cameron's turned up and suddenly the news is about him and his compassion, him and what he has or hasn't done with flood defence funding, him and how he left his family Christmas gathering. Word. It's not about him.

Save the victims, save the homes, build the effing flood barriers in the North like you did in London, asshole! But stay home until the waters recede and you can do something to fix things.

Politicians cannot be more empathetic just because they put on wading boots and pull the focus away from the firefighters and emergency responders. And, fyi, I thought the same about GW in New Orleans. He wasn't a dick for not turning up, he was a dick for effing up the organisation of the rescue response.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm curious. Where's the media outcry and criticism of President Obama continuing his vacation in Hawaii while dozens of people have died in storms this past week and thousands of people have been evacuated and dozens have lost their lives in floodwaters in Missouri?

Missouri news:

Deadly, rare winter flood slams Missouri - CBS News

Obama news:

President Obama's Hawaiian vacation continues with luau on Oahu' - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

President Bush gets slaughtered for his "flyover" of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and blamed for deaths and destruction there and President Obama enjoys playing golf and is feted with Hawaiian cuisine while Missourians suffer.
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What are you expecting him to do, exactly? Ride in with his cape and punch the water into submission?

The biggest criticism of the Bush admin during Katrina was not that Bush wasn't down in a canoe rescuing babies. It was that the FEMA operation was so inadequate and delayed that it led to tons of preventable deaths which he didn't take any action to resolve really, that the reason FEMA was so messed up in the first place was because of his idiotic appointments, that he had ignored warnings about the levies being in disrepair before the storm even happened, and that there was never really any substantial rebuilding effort when there should have been.

The criticism was never that it was somehow Bush's fault that it happened in the first place, or that he didn't have superpowers.

In Missouri, the federal government has already responded and troops been sent (likely by Obama's nod -- there is no such thing as a completely work-free vacation for a president), and operations seem to be going about as well as can be expected as of right now. We will see if it's up to snuff, and if it isn't, then criticize away.

But right now you're complaining over something completely illogical. It's horrible and tragic, but that's nature. There's nothing the president can do about nature other than respond, which he has done.
 
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ksu_aviator said:
The hypocrisy is great. But, I don't think Obama can do a whole lot. Unless he's going to swim door to door and rescue people, he can coordinate just fine from Hawaii. But, keep this in the back pocket because which ever Republican wins the election this year will be held to the higher standard.
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There is no nationally known high profile fat governor for him to give a bear hug to for political posturing. He probably does not feel there's enough to interrupt his luring hula dancers and coconut drinks.
 
stonewall50 said:
It wasn't the job of the governor during Katrina. It was all Bush's fault. Just ask Kanye West.
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Actually it was FEMA head "Brownies" fault and GW appointed AND praised him for his failure. It sure made Bush seem out of touch.

 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
What are you expecting him to do, exactly? Ride in with his cape and punch the water into submission?

The biggest criticism of the Bush admin during Katrina was not that Bush wasn't down in a canoe rescuing babies. It was that the FEMA operation was so inadequate and delayed that it led to tons of preventable deaths which he didn't take any action to resolve really, that the reason FEMA was so messed up in the first place was because of his idiotic appointments, that he had ignored warnings about the levies being in disrepair before the storm even happened, and that there was never really any substantial rebuilding effort when there should have been.

The criticism was never that it was somehow Bush's fault that it happened in the first place, or that he didn't have superpowers.

In Missouri, the federal government has already responded and troops been sent (likely by Obama's nod -- there is no such thing as a completely work-free vacation for a president), and operations seem to be going about as well as can be expected as of right now. We will see if it's up to snuff, and if it isn't, then criticize away.

But right now you're complaining over something completely illogical. It's horrible and tragic, but that's nature. There's nothing the president can do about nature other than respond, which he has done.
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How do we know if the media doesnt hold democrat presidents as accountable as republicans? THATS the point here.
 
I was in New Orleans shortly after Katrina. The recovery effort was massive, the need was just bigger than our resources. Sometimes, disasters are bigger than the government. This was one of those times.
 
Andalublue said:
I know it's tempting to expect political leaders to be working 24/7 365, and sure, they need to be hard workers but not every domestic storm, tornado, train crash, overseas tragedy, diplomatic fubar requires the President to fly in on Airforce One. Let the emergency services do their job and not get distracted by having a presidential entourage land on them.

I don't know whether you've heard, but the UK has been having a major flooding disaster ongoing for 2 weeks. Cameron's turned up and suddenly the news is about him and his compassion, him and what he has or hasn't done with flood defence funding, him and how he left his family Christmas gathering. Word. It's not about him.

Save the victims, save the homes, build the effing flood barriers in the North like you did in London, asshole! But stay home until the waters recede and you can do something to fix things.

Politicians cannot be more empathetic just because they put on wading boots and pull the focus away from the firefighters and emergency responders. And, fyi, I thought the same about GW in New Orleans. He wasn't a dick for not turning up, he was a dick for effing up the organisation of the rescue response.
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I appreciate your comments, although you entirely miss the point of the thread which relates to media bias. And to be clear, Bush didn't eff up the organization of the rescue response in that neither the Democrat Governor nor the Democrat Mayor would cede any control to the federal government but they got off relatively unscathed because Bush was a convenient target for the liberal media.

And I'd also just note that there's serious concern in Missouri and other States that the levees that protect many cities along the Mississippi and other tributaries may be breached soon causing untold damage to lives and property.

If you think the President of the United States golfing and attending luaus in Hawaii while large swaths of Missouri become submerged is a good look for him and the country, I'll have to disagree.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
What are you expecting him to do, exactly? Ride in with his cape and punch the water into submission?

The biggest criticism of the Bush admin during Katrina was not that Bush wasn't down in a canoe rescuing babies. It was that the FEMA operation was so inadequate and delayed that it led to tons of preventable deaths which he didn't take any action to resolve really, that the reason FEMA was so messed up in the first place was because of his idiotic appointments, that he had ignored warnings about the levies being in disrepair before the storm even happened, and that there was never really any substantial rebuilding effort when there should have been.

The criticism was never that it was somehow Bush's fault that it happened in the first place, or that he didn't have superpowers.

In Missouri, the federal government has already responded and troops been sent (likely by Obama's nod -- there is no such thing as a completely work-free vacation for a president), and operations seem to be going about as well as can be expected as of right now. We will see if it's up to snuff, and if it isn't, then criticize away.

But right now you're complaining over something completely illogical. It's horrible and tragic, but that's nature. There's nothing the president can do about nature other than respond, which he has done.
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Of course you'd miss the subject matter of the thread in your desperate need to defend Obama at all costs. Just to remind you, the thread asks where's the media in the matter and why aren't they requiring as much of Obama as they demanded of Bush during the initial stages of Katrina. And you just show your bias when you ignore the blatant fact that Bush was crucified in the media and liberal circles for doing a "flyover" of New Orleans and wasn't down on the ground in the middle of the mess.

Your response to this thread doesn't surprise me one bit.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm curious. Where's the media outcry and criticism of President Obama continuing his vacation in Hawaii while dozens of people have died in storms this past week and thousands of people have been evacuated and dozens have lost their lives in floodwaters in Missouri?

Missouri news:

Deadly, rare winter flood slams Missouri - CBS News

Obama news:

President Obama's Hawaiian vacation continues with luau on Oahu' - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

President Bush gets slaughtered for his "flyover" of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and blamed for deaths and destruction there and President Obama enjoys playing golf and is feted with Hawaiian cuisine while Missourians suffer.
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Huh? Let me know when Obama is approaching the Guinness record for most time spent on vacation and then I'll start noticing the president's vacations.
 
PeteEU said:
Aint this the job of the governor and not the President? Funny how conservative want more power to the states, and yet when a disaster happens then it is "it is all the Presidents fault" bull**** starts.

How about no one should be living in flood plains?
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If the Governor requests federal disaster relief then they are abandoning any responsibility for their state.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate your comments, although you entirely miss the point of the thread which relates to media bias. And to be clear, Bush didn't eff up the organization of the rescue response in that neither the Democrat Governor nor the Democrat Mayor would cede any control to the federal government but they got off relatively unscathed because Bush was a convenient target for the liberal media.

And I'd also just note that there's serious concern in Missouri and other States that the levees that protect many cities along the Mississippi and other tributaries may be breached soon causing untold damage to lives and property.

If you think the President of the United States golfing and attending luaus in Hawaii while large swaths of Missouri become submerged is a good look for him and the country, I'll have to disagree.
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CJ, I read on Yahoo that McDonalds and other businesses were covered in water up to their roofs, because the river was 20 feet above flood stage! Scary! :wow: :shock:
 
reinoe said:
Huh? Let me know when Obama is approaching the Guinness record for most time spent on vacation and then I'll start noticing the president's vacations.
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And another who has the content of the thread fly over his head.

The thread isn't about how much vacation time Obama does or doesn't take. The thread is about the appearance of Obama golfing and yukking it up while large swaths of Missouri become submerged and the media doesn't say boo.
 
reinoe said:
If the Governor requests federal disaster relief then they are abandoning any responsibility for their state.
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Which GOP governors almost always do.

And even then, the President does not micro manage disaster relief, and he can do his job from anywhere.
 
polgara said:
CJ, I read on Yahoo that McDonalds and other businesses were covered in water up to their roofs, because the river was 20 feet above flood stage! Scary! :wow: :shock:
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A lot of the pictures coming out of the area are scary. It's been reported that most if not all of the major highways that would be used for evacuations from the area are already partially submerged in many places. And that's just the damage from the rains, not taking into consideration the tornado and wind damage as well. But it's sunny with a light breeze in Hawaii today - great day for a couple of rounds of golf and very few water hazards.
 
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