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NY Times Stealth-Edits Article to Remove Embarrassing Obama Admission

imyoda said:
.......Like what is the point you refer to....and the reasons you think it to be the subject/point/reason........Or do you expect us to guess what you mean?
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You asked where is the NYT propaganda so I suggested where you might find it.
Did I speak out of turn?
 
bubbabgone said:
You asked where is the NYT propaganda so I suggested where you might find it.
Did I speak out of turn?
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You suggested WHERE?.............The author of the string sure didn't show/give example of any propaganda used/printed/claimed in the NYT news article.............nor does he explain why he thinks he then can claim "Obama... Moron in Chief"........

And NO you have not spoken out of turn................I understand some folks here think they make the rules that us "little people" must follow.....or what one is allowed to say or not say.......and a few other examples of megalomania...............I AM NOT ONE OF THEM..........

and welcome any and all remarks/replies/ posts..........

This is a place for folks to share ideas/thoughts/beliefs........no matter how serious or silly.............and understanding this is for fun and entertainment..........not a place when someone comes to WIN or defeat the enemy.....so to speak.......
 
imyoda said:
All I am asking..... where's the NYT propaganda someone claims exists in the news report by the NYT's.....

Do you know?
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You're asking for statements that were removed. The entire point of the OP was the removal of an assertion. It's hard to understand how you might have missed that essential element.


BTW

Tell me Bush was not an abysmal failure as a President.
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.......... :roll:[/QUOTE]

Bush was not an abysmal failure as a President. That was easy. What else would you like me to tell you? Here, I'll help you out. Obama, as much as I disagree with him, has not been an abysmal failure as President either. We are, after all, still here.
 
imyoda said:
You suggested WHERE?.............The author of the string sure didn't show/give example of any propaganda used/printed/claimed in the NYT news article.............nor does he explain why he thinks he then can claim "Obama... Moron in Chief"........

And NO you have not spoken out of turn................I understand some folks here think they make the rules that us "little people" must follow.....or what one is allowed to say or not say.......and a few other examples of megalomania...............I AM NOT ONE OF THEM..........

and welcome any and all remarks/replies/ posts..........

This is a place for folks to share ideas/thoughts/beliefs........no matter how serious or silly.............and understanding this is for fun and entertainment..........not a place when someone comes to WIN or defeat the enemy.....so to speak.......
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As I read it, the OP was suggesting that Obama's interview, as originally shown, included a comment by Obama that could be seen as either ignorant or insulting.
That particular comment was then removed, allegedly for reasons of space.
Yet additional, much longer, material was added.

That could be viewed as propaganda meant to change how Obama was perceived by readers.
 
bubbabgone said:
As I read it, the OP was suggesting that Obama's interview, as originally shown, included a comment by Obama that could be seen as either ignorant or insulting.
That particular comment was then removed, allegedly for reasons of space.
Yet additional, much longer, material was added.

That could be viewed as propaganda meant to change how Obama was perceived by readers.
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"As I read it, the OP was suggesting that Obama's interview, as originally shown, included a comment by Obama.............But does not prove it was at first included.....But for the sake of the argument let's say that was what happened ..........that could be seen as either ignorant or insulting.............and I believe that was the point of the authors intent
That particular comment was then removed, allegedly for reasons of space.............. like so what? Removal for the sake of space or some other reason the "propaganda "claimed had little to do with the news story being reported.........

............ Yet additional, much longer, material was added..........Often called up dates...new information.........or a full .......and after all the facts are in..........news story.......A quality which makes the NYT's the nations newspaper of record


That could be viewed as propaganda meant to change how Obama was perceived by readers.........Yes it could..........IMO I judged it to be an open and honest expression the President perceived as a short coming...............Is it "embarrassing" today to admit one's short comings...........and or failures?

For myself, I call that being open and honest......a highly desirable quality I desire and admire for a man who sits behind the desk in the oval office...........
 
JasperL said:
Well, no they cannot, and certainly not anyone can graduate from Harvard Law magnu cum laude. You're confusing intelligence with agreeing with you, and they are different. You make yourself look stupid with that ridiculous claim.
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No anyone can memorize a book that doesn't make them intelligent.
again if he was so well versed in law and the constitution why is he constantly getting overturned by the courts?
 
bubbabgone said:
Iraq, Syria, and Libya were not united but Iran is forming an empire while we watch ... and help.
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Last I looked Iran is Shia. Meanwhile, the fastest growing large militant group in the region, ISIS, is Sunni.

You do understand what that means. Right? I'll give you a clue. Iran is shaking in its boots, not forming an empire.
 
 
calamity said:
:roll:

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/25/supreme-court-approves-obamacare-subsidies-on-healthcaregov.html

Emotions high after Supreme Court upholds health care law - CNNPolitics.com

Supreme Court rules states must allow same-sex marriage - CNNPolitics.com

Obama Wins Big, Loses Small in Supreme Court Rulings
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LOL 2 of those deal with the healthcare law on which he has lost 2 times now. he only has won 2 battles and has lost like 3.
he lost on the labor board which was huge.
he lost on the EPA which was huge.
he has lost several other major cases during his time.

and there are more cases that haven't gotten to the SCOTUS yet. lol

grasping for straws is grasping for straws.
 
imyoda said:
"As I read it, the OP was suggesting that Obama's interview, as originally shown, included a comment by Obama.............But does not prove it was at first included.....But for the sake of the argument let's say that was what happened ..........that could be seen as either ignorant or insulting.............and I believe that was the point of the authors intent
That particular comment was then removed, allegedly for reasons of space.............. like so what? Removal for the sake of space or some other reason the "propaganda "claimed had little to do with the news story being reported.........

............ Yet additional, much longer, material was added..........Often called up dates...new information.........or a full .......and after all the facts are in..........news story.......A quality which makes the NYT's the nations newspaper of record


That could be viewed as propaganda meant to change how Obama was perceived by readers.........Yes it could..........IMO I judged it to be an open and honest expression the President perceived as a short coming...............Is it "embarrassing" today to admit one's short comings...........and or failures?

For myself, I call that being open and honest......a highly desirable quality I desire and admire for a man who sits behind the desk in the oval office...........
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
 
calamity said:
Last I looked Iran is Shia. Meanwhile, the fastest growing large militant group in the region, ISIS, is Sunni.

You do understand what that means. Right? I'll give you a clue. Iran is shaking in its boots, not forming an empire.
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You'd better look deeper my friend.
Iran is heavily involved with the current Shia government & militias in Iraq.
Iran is heavily involved, along with Russia, with propping up Assad (also Shia) in Syria.
Iran just snookered a willing USA into an agreement which gives them $150B to finance terrorism and a path to nukes.

So, yes, Iran is looking to create another Ottoman Empire.
 
bubbabgone said:
You'd better look deeper my friend.
Iran is heavily involved with the current Shia government & militias in Iraq.
Iran is heavily involved, along with Russia, with propping up Assad (also Shia) in Syria.
Iran just snookered a willing USA into an agreement which gives them $150B to finance terrorism and a path to nukes.

So, yes, Iran is looking to create another Ottoman Empire.
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lol...same as it ever was--at least since the end of WW1. Muslims are at each others throats.

Saudi Arabia vs. Iran: The Sunni-Shiite Proxy Wars
 
ludin said:
No anyone can memorize a book that doesn't make them intelligent.
again if he was so well versed in law and the constitution why is he constantly getting overturned by the courts?
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Ok, you're wrong. Not everyone can in fact "memorize a book" and finishing in the top tier at an elite school like Harvard Law requires far more than "memorizing a book." He's an obviously very intelligent man. You can accept that and still disagree with just about every major decision he's made. They're not incompatible. Not sure why you feel obligated to trash the man's intelligence. There are few politicians I dislike more or disagree with more than Ted Cruz, but he's an obviously highly intelligent person....
 
ludin said:
LOL 2 of those deal with the healthcare law on which he has lost 2 times now. he only has won 2 battles and has lost like 3.
he lost on the labor board which was huge.
he lost on the EPA which was huge.
he has lost several other major cases during his time.

and there are more cases that haven't gotten to the SCOTUS yet. lol

grasping for straws is grasping for straws.
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Is Obamacare still law of the land?

Thought so.
 
JasperL said:
Ok, you're wrong. Not everyone can in fact "memorize a book" and finishing in the top tier at an elite school like Harvard Law requires far more than "memorizing a book." He's an obviously very intelligent man. You can accept that and still disagree with just about every major decision he's made. They're not incompatible. Not sure why you feel obligated to trash the man's intelligence. There are few politicians I dislike more or disagree with more than Ted Cruz, but he's an obviously highly intelligent person....
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I agree that there are many things to pick on regarding Obama, his leadership and the direction he has sailed this nation over the past 7 years. But, to call him a moron who only managed to memorize a book is clearly showing a certain level of ignorance that makes it nearly impossible to take anything else said from that corner serious.
 
ludin said:
No anyone can memorize a book that doesn't make them intelligent.
again if he was so well versed in law and the constitution why is he constantly getting overturned by the courts?
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Yes, crap as you refer to have been making the rounds lately……so unless you are referring to something else………. Here is the real deal and not GOP BS

GOP spokesman says Supreme Court unanimously ruled against Barack Obama's executive orders 13 times
GOP leader: Supreme Court has ruled 13 times that Obama exceeded his constitutional authority | PolitiFact

PolitiFact ruling………..
"In the last three years alone, 13 times, the Supreme Court, unanimously, 9-0, including all of the president's liberal picks, have struck down the president's executive orders."

Most of the litigation actually came in response to actions under the Bush administration. In the few cases initiated during Obama’s two terms, the court wasn't even ruling on challenges to Obama’s executive orders.

Spicer took an already debunked argument and made another mistake in repeating it, so it was even more incorrect. We rate the statement Pants on Fire.
 
zimmer said:
If you read The New York Times‘ story on President Barack Obama‘s private meeting with news columnists Friday morning, you may have caught one quote that made the President look particularly bad:
In his meeting with the columnists, Mr. Obama indicated that he did not see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, and made clear that he plans to step up his public arguments.
The President of the United States failed to understand that Americans were anxious after two major terrorist attacks in Western cities because he doesn’t watch TV? It’s an admission that opponents are sure to use to make the president seem out-of-touch at best, and unconcerned about a serious threat at worst.

Many politicos and journalists immediately saw the newsworthiness of the statement, especially after CNN’s Brian Stelter drew attention to it.
Obama needs more cable news in his media diet? Revealing comment in a private meeting with newspaper columnists… pic.twitter.com/iUHz6Ey38g

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) December 18, 2015
This is breathtaking https://t.co/1RkjRhbiGk

— Ron Fournier (@ron_fournier) December 18, 2015
Oh sweet mother of… come on Obama—>: https://t.co/2W1VEMJvOo

— SalenaZito (@SalenaZitoTrib) December 18, 2015
Imagine Bush saying this. https://t.co/Aahlt92QMs — James Taranto (@jamestaranto) December 18, 2015

But just as the quote was beginning to make the rounds, it disappeared entirely from the the Times piece, without a correction or any indication that the piece had been updated.

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Obama... Moron in Chief.

NYT... just part of the Goebbels styled propaganda mill.
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I have two things to say. First of all, President Obama was honest in admitting that his not watching cable news programs made him unaware of how concerned most Americans are about Islamic terrorism. Few politicians would do that. As a tangential point, I would like to mention that the number of Americans that have been killed by Muslims since 2000, including American servicemen in Afghanistan and Iraq, is vastly smaller than the number of Americans killed in automobile accidents, and by gun violence. However, because most Americans love cars and guns, this is somehow not a national concern.

My second point is that The New York Times, unlike FOX News and Rush Limbaugh, does not lie. If it makes a mistake, it prints a retraction.

It is true that The New York Times does not usually print stories that show blacks and homosexuals in an unfavorable light.

You may remember the killing of Matthew Shepard in 1998. He picked up two men who went into the desert with him and murdered him. For months this was in the news, not only in The New York Times, but in the entire American press. It was not until several years later that I learned that about the same time two adult homosexuals raped and tortured a fourteen year old boy to death.

The tragic story of Jesse Dirkhising

Although the mainstream media has given a lot of attention to the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal, little attention has been drawn to the fact that 85 percent of the victims of these priests have been boys. Because I doubt that 85 percent of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals, I suspect that this is evidence that homosexuals are more prone to be child abusers than are heterosexuals.

The mainstream media has also been reluctant to draw attention to racial differences in average IQ, as well as crime and illegitimacy. Many newspapers will not report the race of criminal suspects.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1065375195 said:
Interesting how the leader of the free world can't grasp the magnitude of how civilians would respond to Islamic terrorists murdering innocent people without having to see it on TV.
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Yes, it sure is interesting when the one person who is most likely to be informed of the actual events occurring in the world is not on the same page as fear mongering TV stations whose primary interests are to drive up ratings...

Subtlety indeed
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Yes, subtlety indeed.
Mason66 said:
Does it bother you the President thinks it does?
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That's not what was said. It was never said the President thinks the cable news networks have a better grasp on the level of seriousness of the situation. In fact, since this thread, I think it's been pretty clear the White House has tried to make it more obvious that cable news are NOT representing an accurate level of seriousness.

He said he needs cable news to instruct him on the anxiety level of the public, not his advisers or real life experience.
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That is not what is indicated in the quote.
Born Free said:
Tell that to Obama, it is he that said he did not watch enough TV to know anxiety exists.
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That doesn't even make sense.

Further he as said many times in the past that the reason he knew about a certain issue is by watching TV.
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Okay...so? I don't understand the point here. Are you saying that you first learning about something and having an in-depth knowledge of people's feelings are at all comparable in terms of time?
zimmer said:
You have the president... who reveals he's beyond out of touch.
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No, that's not what this is about. Not surprisingly, I see what was said here in a much less bombastic light than you.

And you go further with your explanation about cable TV to illustrate what a total moron he is. For that I thank you.

You don't think people are anxious?
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I think people are overly anxious unnecessarily based on real conditions, thanks in large part to the media. And that's basically what is being said here and what the White House has been trying to counter act of late.

The job of news networks is not to report news, but to bump ratings. No place can this be seen better than on CNN, where literally every program every hour starts with "Breaking News", even if it's the same story they were talking about a week ago. It's about driving shock value and making people emotionally invested. Whether or not there's as much truth as the tone of the program suggests is unimportant. And that's what Obama is saying here.

We've got open borders
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No we don't.
terror attacks
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Hardly a unique or new experience in this country.
Homeland security hogtied when it comes to vetting these people
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And yet, seemingly doing a great job anyways.
an out of touch president
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Only to partisans
along with his dimwitted DoJ chief
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No comment on this particular accusation.

Obama doesn't need cable
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First thing you've said which is correct. Obama doesn't need cable because his job is dealing with the things cable news reports on. And Obama has knowledge of things far beyond what you'll ever see on cable news. So if he's surprised cable news has unduly created anxiety in civilians, it's not really that hard to understand why.
 
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