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CNN's Cuomo adopts liberal talking points in Fiorina interview

Grim17 said:
So PP exchanging an intact heart harvested from an abortion for a set price, to a research facility that expressed interested in obtaining one, isn't the sale of baby parts in your view?

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Again...you are propagating a lie...we have been over this many times on this forum. PP didn't sell body parts, and to date, every single investigation has come to this conclusion. Keep pushing the big lie...
 
beefheart said:
Again...you are propagating a lie...we have been over this many times on this forum. PP didn't sell body parts, and to date, every single investigation has come to this conclusion. Keep pushing the big lie...
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Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

Seriously?
 
Grim17 said:
Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

Seriously?
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Again, PP does not sell body parts as you claimed, and they have been vindicated in every single investigation. You can keep repeating the lie...but, its a lie.
 
beefheart said:
Again, PP does not sell body parts as you claimed, and they have been vindicated in every single investigation. You can keep repeating the lie...but, its a lie.
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You are skirting my question so I will pose it again:

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

A simple "yes" or "no" will do, if you have nothing to add.

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Grim17 said:
You are skirting my question so I will pose it again:

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

A simple "yes" or "no" will do, if you have nothing to add.

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No, you are skirting reality. PP did nothing wrong. And they have been exonerated every single time.

Any transaction was for the costs of handling and shipping...they didn't make any profit, and they did nothing unlawful.

Please tell me what PP has been charged with and what crimes they have been found guilty in a court of law per the dishonest videos.
 
Grim17 said:
CNN's Chris Cuomo not only showed his liberal bias interviewing Carly Fiorina, he all but blamed her and other republicans for the PP shooting.

What a fricken tool.

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No surprise. This is the dill weed that decided to challenge Ted Cruz on his Hispanic heritage.
 
Grim17 said:
Go stalk someone else... I'm not interested.

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I know it's an uncomfortable position to be in, facing the truth and all.

I'm just so curious as to someone who puts such an emphasis on honesty... why you of all people would continue to peddle such lies.

But I suppose honesty is only important when it's a liberal speaking.

Folks like O'keefe and the PP video folks well... they can be as dishonest as they want and you'll back them to the hilt.
 
Just as I thought... you are playing a game of semantics, which is why you won't answer my simple question.

Here, let me save you the trouble... Saying that "Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation" is a false statement.

beefheart said:
Any transaction was for the costs of handling and shipping...they didn't make any profit, and they did nothing unlawful.
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Time for a little reality check:

Assuming that entire quote is 100% accurate, then PP was still involved in the non-profit sales of baby parts. What the Colorado shooter referenced was the selling of baby parts by PP, and he never mentioned anything about whether profit was involved or not.

Please tell me what PP has been charged with and what crimes they have been found guilty in a court of law per the dishonest videos.
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All of that is irrelevant... This thread is about what the Colorado shooter said about baby parts, and that reference is based on what PP was involved in doing.

Therefore, Chris Cuomo insinuating that Fiorina and others are responsible for what that shooter did, is a steaming pile of liberal BS.
 
Grim17 said:
Just as I thought... you are playing a game of semantics, which is why you won't answer my simple question.

Here, let me save you the trouble... Saying that "Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation" is a false statement.



Time for a little reality check:

Assuming that entire quote is 100% accurate, then PP was still involved in the non-profit sales of baby parts. What the Colorado shooter referenced was the selling of baby parts by PP, and he never mentioned anything about whether profit was involved or not.



All of that is irrelevant... This thread is about what the Colorado shooter said about baby parts, and that reference is based on what PP was involved in doing.

Therefore, Chris Cuomo insinuating that Fiorina and others are responsible for what that shooter did, is a steaming pile of liberal BS.
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PP didn't sell body parts, and they have been exonerated every time.

Facts hurt.

Spin away, its hilarious.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I know it's an uncomfortable position to be in, facing the truth and all.

I'm just so curious as to someone who puts such an emphasis on honesty... why you of all people would continue to peddle such lies.

But I suppose honesty is only important when it's a liberal speaking.

Folks like O'keefe and the PP video folks well... they can be as dishonest as they want and you'll back them to the hilt.
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Yep, such blatant lies, and the people who continue to push them...its fascinating.
 
beefheart said:
PP didn't sell body parts, and they have been exonerated every time.

Facts hurt.

Spin away, its hilarious.
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If that's your position, then why can't you answer my simple question?

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

If your position is a sound, then there's no need to avoid my question... Only someone playing word games would refuse to answer a question about the facts.
 
beefheart said:
Yep, such blatant lies, and the people who continue to push them...its fascinating.
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Is the following statement a lie:

Planned Parenthood on occasion provided to research companies, the remains and/or partial remains from abortions they performed in exchange for monetary compensation.

Is that true or false?
 
Grim17 said:
If that's your position, then why can't you answer my simple question?

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

If your position is a sound, then there's no need to avoid my question... Only someone playing word games would refuse to answer a question about the facts.
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PP did nothing wrong, every investigation agrees.

Stop pushing a lie. Money was to cover costs, not a profit.

Go ahead, charge PP with a crime.

You are really obsessing on the lie about PP, you can't believe the truth.

You are thinking with your heart, not your mind.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Grim..... "Intelligent to say"? All you have done is blame everything on the media for your ****ty talking points being challenged...
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Really... I believe I pointed out how Chris Cuomo displayed his blatant liberal bias during his interview of Carly Fiorina.
 
beefheart said:
PP did nothing wrong, every investigation agrees.

Stop pushing a lie. Money was to cover costs, not a profit.

Go ahead, charge PP with a crime.

You are really obsessing on the lie about PP, you can't believe the truth.

You are thinking with your heart, not your mind.
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I'm sorry, but I believe you again avoided answering the simple question I posed, so let's try again:

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

No honest person runs away from questions about their beliefs or positions, unless they have beliefs and positions that are so weak, they can't stand up to the truth.
 
Grim17 said:
Really... I believe I pointed out how Chris Cuomo displayed his blatant liberal bias during his interview of Carly Fiorina.
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In reality you were upset that he had the audacity to blame Conservative rhetoric including that of Fiorina for the PP shooting.

I don't think that's entirely fair granted, I feel someone who is going to go out and kill innocent people is pre-disposed to violence in the first place BUT:

When you yourself... have done the EXACT SAME THING you don't really have the right to throw stones:

Grim17 said:
Whether you believe his suspicions were valid or not is irrelevant. The man thought it was suspicious enough that he considered informing police, but he chose not to do so because of the politically correct climate of fear that the left has created in this country. If that climate didn't exist, maybe that shooting would have never happened..
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Your hypocrisy is there for everyone to see Grim and it must be REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL uncomfortable.

I know I would be.
 
Grim17 said:
I'm sorry, but I believe you again avoided answering the simple question I posed, so let's try again:

Are you actually saying that Planned Parenthood never provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from an abortion in exchange for monetary compensation?

No honest person runs away from questions about their beliefs or positions, unless they have beliefs and positions that are so weak, they can't stand up to the truth.
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I didn't run away, I answered your question. PP did nothing wrong, they haven't been charged with anything, and they have been exonerated in every investigation.

That is the truth you can't handle.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Wouldn't be the first time you've supported the lies of doctored and misleading videos.

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what videos were 'doctored"?

'Misleading" who? Liberlas who support what Planned Parenthood ?
 
beefheart said:
I didn't run away, I answered your question.
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You have NEVER answered that question, which speaks volumes about your honesty... or lack there of.



PP did nothing wrong,
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I didn't ask if they did anything wrong. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?



they haven't been charged with anything,
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I didn't ask if they were charged with anything. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?




and they have been exonerated in every investigation.
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I didn't ask if they had been exonerated in every investigation. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?




That is the truth you can't handle.
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The truth is, you haven't answered the question and based on your political beliefs, I bet you never will. That would require a level of honesty that quite frankly, you have displayed no indication of possessing.

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Grim17 said:
You have NEVER answered that question, which speaks volumes about your honesty... or lack there of.





I didn't ask if they did anything wrong. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?





I didn't ask if they were charged with anything. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?






I didn't ask if they had been exonerated in every investigation. The question is:

Did Planned Parenthood provided to research companies, the remains or partial remains from abortions in exchange for monetary compensation?






The truth is, you haven't answered the question and based on your political beliefs, I bet you never will. That would require a level of honesty that quite frankly, you have displayed no indication of possessing.

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Your question has been answered, and PP has not done anything wrong. They didn't "sell" parts, they shipped them and were renumerated for the expense of shipping. And, they have been exonerated in every single investigation. What do you not get about that? Question answered, many times...even when you put it in bold. :lamo
 
beefheart said:
They didn't "sell" parts, they shipped them and were renumerated for the expense of shipping
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Finally you answered the question, but unfortunately your answer is wrong. Planned Parenthood did "sell" those parts.

From Merriam-Webster:

Sell

: to exchange (something) for money

: to make (something) available to be bought

: to be able to be bought for a particular price
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Whether they profitted or not is irrelevant. They sold body parts.

So in conclusion:

Planned Parenthood did in fact engage in the sale of specific body parts and specific organs that they harvested from aborted children, to research facilities that were in the market for those specific parts and organs. Those actions by PP correspond to the reference the Colorado shooter made to "baby parts".

Cuomo showed his bias by inferring that Fiorina and others on the right are responsible for the shooters actions, because they voiced public opposition to what Planned Parenthood was doing. No fair, unbiased journalist would blame a republican candidate for a person committing an act of violence, motivated by actions that the candidate took no part in and had absolutely nothing to do with... But that's precisely what Cuomo inferred more than once during his interview of Carly Fiorina.
 
Grim17 said:
Finally you answered the question, but unfortunately your answer is wrong. Planned Parenthood did "sell" those parts.

From Merriam-Webster:

Sell

: to exchange (something) for money

: to make (something) available to be bought

: to be able to be bought for a particular price
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Whether they profitted or not is irrelevant. They sold body parts.

So in conclusion:

Planned Parenthood did in fact engage in the sale of specific body parts and specific organs that they harvested from aborted children, to research facilities that were in the market for those specific parts and organs. Those actions by PP correspond to the reference the Colorado shooter made to "baby parts".

Cuomo showed his bias by inferring that Fiorina and others on the right are responsible for the shooters actions, because they voiced public opposition to what Planned Parenthood was doing. No fair, unbiased journalist would blame a republican candidate for a person committing an act of violence, motivated by actions that the candidate took no part in and had absolutely nothing to do with... But that's precisely what Cuomo inferred more than once during his interview of Carly Fiorina.
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Your endless and obsessive posts nonwithstanding, fact, PP has done nothing wrong, hasn't been charged with any crime, and has been exonerated every single time they have been investigated. That is the truth you can't accept.

If you want to craft another long windy and tedious response, go ahead, I'm at work today getting stuff done. I've destroyed your silly argument with the pesky truth of the matter, that you can't see that.....well, its your problem, not mine.
 
beefheart said:
Your endless and obsessive posts nonwithstanding, fact, PP has done nothing wrong,
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Irrelevant because I never argued that they did.


hasn't been charged with any crime,
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Irrelevant because I never argued that they had.


and has been exonerated every single time they have been investigated.
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Irrelevant because I never argued that they hadn't been.


That is the truth you can't accept.
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Really? Show me where I have expressed any such thing.

I've destroyed your silly argument with the pesky truth of the matter, that you can't see that...
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You have? What arguments are you referring to?

I said Cuomo showed a rather blatant liberal bias and I never saw you destroy that... I proved that your claim that PP didn't sell baby parts was a lie, by simply posting the definition of "sell"... Since the shooter referenced "baby parts" and PP did sell baby parts, it was ridiculous for Cuomo to assign blame to Fiorina for PP's actions.

Of course you probably don't see it that way, because your agenda obviously takes precedence and won't allow you recognize his journalistically inappropriate behavior during that interview.


So what argument of mine was it again, that you claim to have destroyed?




well, its your problem, not mine.
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I have no problem here at all. Cuomo's liberal bias was clear and unmistakable.
 
Grim17 said:
Irrelevant because I never argued that they did.




Irrelevant because I never argued that they had.




Irrelevant because I never argued that they hadn't been.




Really? Show me where I have expressed any such thing.



You have? What arguments are you referring to?

I said Cuomo showed a rather blatant liberal bias and I never saw you destroy that... I proved that your claim that PP didn't sell baby parts was a lie, by simply posting the definition of "sell"... Since the shooter referenced "baby parts" and PP did sell baby parts, it was ridiculous for Cuomo to assign blame to Fiorina for PP's actions.

Of course you probably don't see it that way, because your agenda obviously takes precedence and won't allow you recognize his journalistically inappropriate behavior during that interview.


So what argument of mine was it again, that you claim to have destroyed?






I have no problem here at all. Cuomo's liberal bias was clear and unmistakable.
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You obviously don't understand adopting a Devil's Advocate role when speaking or interviewing to test someone else's beliefs or statements or position.
 
Fiorina LIED about the PP video. She lied, period. Good for Cuomo calling her out on her lies.
 
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