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CNN's Cuomo adopts liberal talking points in Fiorina interview

SMTA said:
You obviously don't understand adopting a Devil's Advocate role when speaking or interviewing to test someone else's beliefs or statements or position.
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Certainly I do... Cuomo didn't play devil's advocate in that interview, he expressed his opinion that she and others on the right were partially responsible for that shooting. He didn't say "There are some (democrats, liberals, pro-choice activists) who believe..." That would have been playing devil's advocate.

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SMTA said:
You obviously don't understand adopting a Devil's Advocate role when speaking or interviewing to test someone else's beliefs or statements or position.
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He never stops obsessing...especially when he loses an argument.

PP did nothing wrong...if they did, where is the lawsuits and civil actions?
 
Grim17 said:
Certainly I do... Cuomo didn't play devil's advocate in that interview, he expressed his opinion that she and others on the right were partially responsible for that shooting. He didn't say "There are some (democrats, liberals, pro-choice activists) who believe..." That would have been playing devil's advocate.

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Crazy talk leads crazy people to do crazy things....

It is irresponsible of the video makers to push their edited lies out and inflame the whackadoos.
 
beefheart said:
Crazy talk leads crazy people to do crazy things....

It is irresponsible of the video makers to push their edited lies out and inflame the whackadoos.
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What does that have to do with my comments or this discussion?
 
beefheart said:
Oh the cognitive dissonance you have.

He made her look like an angry lunatic. She still is lying about the videos, and he owned her on it. Watching her meltdown is hilarious.
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The exchange starting at 4:45 was hilarious. He owned her so bad that she was stumbling over her words.

Cuomo best statement was at the 5:56 point.
 
Mr Person said:
Give us a break. A MSM anchor has no duty to refrain from calling out a liar for lying. Fiorina has lied repeatedly about those videos. She refused to admit that they were even "edited" in this tidbit you posted.

Pressing her on the point is "liberal bias"?

In conservative land, does being "objective" mean letting conservative politicians tell whatever lies they want without repercussion?





Anyway....can I take it for granted that if I look in threads about BLM, I won't see any of the conservatives who here take issue Cuomo's statements trying to blame BLM for violence against police officers?
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Pretty much. If you remotely try to challenge anything a republican says it is liberal bias.


Republican: "The shape of the earth is square"

Media: "What evidence do you have to support this claim?"

Republican: "Oh see there you go with your liberal bias !!!"
 
Grim17 said:
CNN's Chris Cuomo not only showed his liberal bias interviewing Carly Fiorina, he all but blamed her and other republicans for the PP shooting.

What a fricken tool.

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She actually came right out and said the videos weren't even edited, along with the notion that nothing was fabricated. She's decided to stick to a narrative that's pleasing to her base but has utterly dispensed with honesty in the process. At such a point the political bias of the interviewer is irrelevant when compared to the interviewee's insistence on outright lying.

Loved how she sputtered and went on to justify demagoguery with vague assertions that the left "does it all the time."
 
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Cardinal said:
At such a point the political bias of the interviewer is irrelevant...
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Really? I didn't think that political bias was ever appropriate when it comes to the news.

At least I'm clear that when it comes to you, liberal bias is acceptable when dealing with those on the right you disagree with.

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Grim17 said:
Really? I didn't think that political bias was ever appropriate when it comes to the news.

At least I'm clear that when it comes to you, liberal bias is acceptable when dealing with those on the right you disagree with.

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Bias is simply the least important aspect in this video compared to Fiorina's outrageous dishonesty. That you would see Cuomo's political position as somehow worse than her lying is pretty sad.
 
Cardinal said:
Bias is simply the least important aspect in this video compared to Fiorina's outrageous dishonesty. That you would see Cuomo's political position as somehow worse than her lying is pretty sad.
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I'm tired of arguing that point, because it's a word game.

When liberals like Cuomo say "edited" they are saying "edited to change the meaning of what was said" in an attempt to completely discredit those tapes. So when Fiorina says they were not edited, she is saying that the tapes "were not edited to misrepresent what those people from PP said and advocated for", which is true.

Don't bother posting a link to that pro-democratic firm that analysed those videos and came to those bogus conclusions, because I will simply counter with a link to a truly independent examination of those tapes that determined that the edits were done for time purposes and nothing that was taken out changed the context of what was said.

This thread is about the liberal bias of the CNN interview of Carly Fiorina, conducted by Chris Cuomo, and you've made your view about that bias quite clear.

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Grim17 said:
I'm tired of arguing that point, because it's a word game.

When liberals like Cuomo say "edited" they are saying "edited to change the meaning of what was said" in an attempt to completely discredit those tapes. So when Fiorina says they were not edited, she is saying that the tapes "were not edited to misrepresent what those people from PP said and advocated for", which is true.

Don't bother posting a link to that pro-democratic firm that analysed those videos and came to those bogus conclusions, because I will simply counter with a link to a truly independent examination of those tapes that determined that the edits were done for time purposes and nothing that was taken out changed the context of what was said.

This thread is about the liberal bias of the CNN interview of Carly Fiorina, conducted by Chris Cuomo, and you've made your view about that bias quite clear.

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Oh yeah? Who conducted this "independent examination?" Lifenews.com? :lol:

And you've made clear your view that it's okay to lie so long as the person who's doing the questioning has their own political bias.
 
Cardinal said:
Oh yeah? Who conducted this "independent examination?" Lifenews.com? :lol:

And you've made clear your view that it's okay to lie so long as the person who's doing the questioning has their own political bias.
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I never said anything of the kind.

You know as well as I do, that when you or others on the left say that those PP tapes were "edited", you are saying that those edits took what was said completely out of context, rendering everything was said and depicted on them, invalid. So when Fiorina replies that they were not edited, she is saying that they were not edited to take what those people said out of context and accurately reflected their true words and meaning.

You all love to play word games and I'm tired of it. Fiorina simply uses the left's definition of "edit" whenever she is confronted by a liberal jounalist and I can't say I blame her.
 
Grim17 said:
I never said anything of the kind.

You know as well as I do, that when you or others on the left say that those PP tapes were "edited", you are saying that those edits took what was said completely out of context, rendering everything was said and depicted on them, invalid. So when Fiorina replies that they were not edited, she is saying that they were not edited to take what those people said out of context and accurately reflected their true words and meaning.

You all love to play word games and I'm tired of it. Fiorina simply uses the left's definition of "edit" whenever she is confronted by a liberal jounalist and I can't say I blame her.
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And that's why CMP continually needed to add scary music, title the video PLANNED PARENTHOOD SELLS BABY PARTS and put in subtitles saying THIS IS WHERE THE BABY PARTS ARE BEING SOLD. And of course tons of sudden still black-and-white shots. Because, you know, the footage "speaks for itself."

I could make two people talking about their stamp collections sound insidious enough if I used Daleiden's editing process, but you ate it up because you already agreed with the political message behind the video, which is "abortion bad." It's appropriate that you put this in the bias section, only the biased one is you.
 
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Cardinal said:
And that's why CMP continually needed to add scary music, title the video PLANNED PARENTHOOD SELLS BABY PARTS and put in subtitles saying THIS IS WHERE THE BABY PARTS ARE BEING SOLD. And of course tons of sudden still black-and-white shots. Because, you know, the footage "speaks for itself."

I could make two people talking about their stamp collections sound insidious enough if I used Daleiden's editing process, but you ate it up because you already agreed with the political message behind the video, which is "abortion bad." It's appropriate that you put this in the bias section, only the biased one is you.
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Sooooo predictable.

Now you back off your claim of Fiorina "lying" and start talking about the scary way the video's were presented... which doesn't have a GD thing to do with this thread, or the discussion the 2 of us were having.

This is about the liberal bias Chris Cuomo displayed when he blamed Carly Fiorina and other republican candidates for the Colorado PP shooting.


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Grim17 said:
Sooooo predictable.

Now you back off your claim of Fiorina "lying" and start talking about the scary way the video's were presented... which doesn't have a GD thing to do with this thread, or the discussion the 2 of us were having.

This is about the liberal bias Chris Cuomo displayed when he blamed Carly Fiorina and other republican candidates for the Colorado PP shooting.


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If the footage spoke for itself, the scary music, black-and-white cut-scenes, the fake fetus video and the made-up titles to...ahem...inerpret...what was being discussed, would not have been necessary. But Fiorina wasn't speaking to the pro-choice side of the debate or even people in the middle. She was speaking directly to her pro-life base because she knew they would swallow absolutely anything at all so long as it confirmed their beliefs to the point that a lie magically becomes not a lie.

Imagine if Clinton claimed that she really had been shot at in Bosnia and her supporters insisted, against all evidence, that she wasn't lying. That's precisely how ridiculous your defense of Fiorina is right now.
 
I would take the phrase "not even edited" to imply that the video was in fact not edited. As Cardinal just described above, there was a whole lot of editing and it was intended to affect how the viewer interpreted the video.

Further, Fiorina is also on record telling affirmative lies about PP.
 
Moon said:
Isn't Cuomo the moron who claimed that the 1st amendment doesn't protect hate speech?

Oh yeah, he is. And he's the intelligent one in the conversation? :lamo
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It doesn't protect hate speech. It doesn't protect slander either, or fighting words, or yelling "fire" in crowded movie theater. It was designed to protect speech against the government.
 
Mr Person said:
I would take the phrase "not even edited" to imply that the video was in fact not edited. As Cardinal just described above, there was a whole lot of editing and it was intended to affect how the viewer interpreted the video.

Further, Fiorina is also on record telling affirmative lies about PP.
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Carly is not just a liar, she double downs on lying. Anyone can see this.
 
jet57 said:
It doesn't protect hate speech. It doesn't protect slander either, or fighting words, or yelling "fire" in crowded movie theater. It was designed to protect speech against the government.
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WTF? The 1st Amendment protects all speech. Incitement is different and there are laws against such incitement - communicating threats. You are also liable for harm that occurs as a direct result of your speech - yelling fire in a theater for instance - but only if there is harm, and the charge would be negligence or some other charge other than criminal or civilly liable speech. But all speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. You can say what ever you want. Hate speech is most definitely protected.
 
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jet57 said:
It doesn't protect hate speech. It doesn't protect slander either, or fighting words, or yelling "fire" in crowded movie theater. It was designed to protect speech against the government.
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Incorrect, it does protect hate speech. If it doesn't you should be able to provide examples of laws in the books that provide for someone to be prosecuted for hate speech. Slander, fighting words, etc. are not the same as hate speech, and slander is not something you can be prosecuted for, it's a civil issue.
 
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