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Differences on how the media reported on French VS American terrorism

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I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
 
Paris had a lot more people to be interviewed, the attacks were in a huge city, and across many venues.
The cops still gotta do interviews today
The prayers and candles came later, but again are more amendable to a central city, then US type suburban sprawl.

we do tend to focus on the 'dramatic police action' - but Paris did too. Here it's immediately politicized into gun control;
there it was suspension of civil liberties in order to do house searches.

There it was a more widespread "plot" with direct ties to Syria; here it appears to be 1 coupler radicalized from SA..
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
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This happens when the media sits on information such as the shooters name for hours while blaming legal gun owners, knowing there is more to this story.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
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We have become a nation where politics trumps everything else. In every mass casualty event since Katrina the media has focused on the political ramifications more than they have the community and personal ones.That's just where we are as a nation today.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
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I hadn't taken the time to notice this, but you're right. Kinda sad.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
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You're premise is patently false. There WAS a group that expressed concern about the victims and they were disgustingly mocked by another group-LIBERALS.

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Shameful.
 
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You're premise is patently false. There WAS a group that expressed concern about the victims and they were disgustingly mocked by another group-LIBERALS.

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Shameful.
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My premise is supported in that article, actually. (In fact, all of Daily News supports my point)

None of what that article addressed was the live-journalism coverage. That article cited how candidates responded after the attack, not the coverage of the attack itself (and that's what I'm commenting on: the content of the media coverage). Tragedy struck and the first thing that *they* chose to write about were the candidates, turning it into a way to attack political candidates - not addressing the emotional and psychological issues concerning victims and families.
 
The attacks yesterday were different in that it took several hours to apprehend the suspects. The Paris attackers were dead for the most part within 30 minutes of the start of the attack.
You can't have a candlelight vigil in an area with active terrorists roaming around.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I couldn't help but notice that when the media were reporting on the recent French terrorism attacks the main focus and concern was a genuine heartfelt compassion for the victims and their families.

Not only in the media, but from the French people - everybody was being interviewed. They were worried about a pregnant woman hanging from a ledge, a young mother working the late-night shift at a cafe, teens having a good time together. People in the US in distant ways knew individuals that were caught up in the events. It felt very personal to so many - quite heavily emotional, in fact.

Then yesterday's event at San Bernidino . . . and all the focus, effort, journalism reporting and thoughts were on the terrorists. Who were they, where had they gone, what were they doing. Inside-scoops and scanner-listening ot get there before everybody else and report. Hardly anyone interviewed actual witnesses (though this might be because witnesses didn't want to be interviewed - or couldn't be - before police interviewed them). Only a few mediocre sentiments about concerned loved ones and family.

No one seems to be having candlelight vigils and prayer circles.

Everybody is more 'sensational headlines' and 'dramatic police action' - I even stood there watching the cops move in on the dead terrorist with clinical detachment because - well - no one was talking about the victims and how tragic it was that their lives being ended so brutally but - good news - many will survive.

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No wonder why people see the US as a cold, hard nation. We sort of are and it shows in the difference between how the SAME journalists reported on the Paris event VS San Bernidino.

And I don't think the difference relies on the scope of the attacks - or the nature of the actions. They could have hit up all 3 buildings in the complex and killed a hundred people . . . it would have been the same.
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Pretty much all of San Bernardino was on lockdown for hours after the shooting. The killers were at large. I don't know what kind of vigils you can hold when the police are ordering you to stay in your house/office/store. Paris also had attacks at multiple locations, and there were witnesses all over the place who weren't told to stay in cover.
 
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