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Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up | Washington Examiner

Yet, even with these admissions from State, Politico's headline unfairly blamed Gowdy for the redaction failure, a few in media suggested after the story's publication.

"How on earth is that fair? Politico's decision to focus blame on Gowdy only makes sense if you assume that his decision to release the emails in the first place was wrong. But that's a political judgment, not the sort of judgment reporters ought to making. And again, if Gowdy's decision was reckless, it was only reckless because he put his faith in the State Department and they dropped the ball," Mediaite's Alex Griswold wrote.

He also accused Politico of downplaying the seriousness of the issue. If the CIA didn't object to the already publicly known source being mentioned by name, and that the request came only from the State Department, this suggests that the "security implications for the entire story are basically nonexistent."
"Reporters file FOIA requests all the time to obtain emails from government officials, which are redacted to exclude personal information, classified information, etc. If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information and a Politico reporter posted the full email, would Politico's headline read that they 'accidentally' released that information?" he asked.

"Or would they justifiably blame the people whose only job is to prevent these kinds of messes?" he added.

Politico Spin Meister.
 
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Let's see here... Who's job is it to protect the identity (aka redact the names) of CIA operatives and sources in government emails?

Would it be the man heading up a congressional hearing, or the the government agency(s) who released those emails to the committee in the first place?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was the agency that released the emails to the committee, who have openly admitted that they failed to delete the source's name and mistakenly released the email to the committee unredacted. I'm going to go even further here and say that the none of the fault lies with the congressional committee, who for the purposes of government transparency, released the email publicly.
 
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... Politico Spin Meister.

An email, which until recently was said by the Democrats to not exist, was discovered to contain classified information, which Hillary Clinton said did not exist, and was released to the public, as Elijah Cummings and the other Democrats on the Select Committee have stated numerous times that they wanted both the emails and transcripts to be made public... and now it's Trey Gowdy's fault?

Priceless.
 
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Here's where this fails:

"If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information... "

It wasn't classified.
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

Let's see here... Who's job is it to protect the identity (aka redact the names) of CIA operatives and sources in government emails?

Would it be the man heading up a congressional hearing, or the the government agency(s) who released those emails to the committee in the first place?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was the agency that released the emails to the committee, who have openly admitted that they failed to delete the source's name and mistakenly released the email to the committee unredacted. I'm going to go even further here and say that the none of the fault lies with the congressional committee, who for the purposes of government transparency, released the email publicly.

Hillary Clinton emails: State Department-intelligence community turf war looms over review - Washington Times

In the process, the new IG has paved the way for a nasty turf battle between the intelligence community and the State bureaucracy: The two have squabbled over who controls the review of Mrs. Clinton’s stash of 30,000 privately maintained emails, some of which hold the nation’s secrets.

There was a power struggle between one of Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at State, Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary for management, and Mr. McCullough, who, like Mr. Linick, is a career government investigator. Mr. McCullough wanted a bigger hand in processing the Clinton emails. Mr. Kennedy said he did not need much help.
It was Mr. Linick who invited Mr. McCullough directly into the process of reviewing Mrs. Clinton’s 33,000 emails at the State Department’s Freedom of Information Office. The invitation ultimately created a headache for State bureaucrats and Mrs. Clinton’s campaign team.
That review allowed Mr. McCullough to look at a small sample of emails, which prompted him to send a referral to the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. It is now investigating Mrs. Clinton’s handling of classified information and the lengths to which the secrets were passed among her Internet recipients.

Then this in direct contradiction of the "he didn't need much help" statement:
Hillary Clinton emails: State Department can't find enough staffers to process messages - Washington Times
The State Department is struggling to hire enough staff to review the huge load of emails former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and her top aides dumped on the Obama administration over the last year, officials told a federal court late Tuesday.
The department is trying to hire 50 additional staffers but has been able to find fewer than three dozen applicants it’s been able to make offers to.

The next class of trainees is due in mid-November, and the department won’t have all 50 new staffers working until next year, John F. Hackett, the top open records officer in the State Department, said in a filing with the federal court in Washington, D.C.
“Although new staff has begun to come on board, and will continue to do so in ‘classes’ in the middle of each month, the full complement of 50 will likely not be on board until mid-January or February,” he wrote. “It will be more time before each class is fully up to speed and able to significantly increase the department’s overall FOIA-processing capacity.”
Part of the problem is the need to scrub the messages for classified information. The staffers need to have top secret clearance because of the information that could be in Mrs. Clinton’s emails, Mr. Hackett said.

It seems that it is the fault of the State Department since it is their job to "scrub the messages for classified information".
 
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Here's where this fails:

"If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information... "

It wasn't classified.

Exactly the point. So something that happened actually didn't happen but for the sake of spin lets generate a happening/story so we can make Gowdy look bad. It is part of the Hillary pre-questioning hysteria spin.
 
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An email, which until recently was said by the Democrats to not exist, was discovered to contain classified information, which Hillary Clinton said did not exist, and was released to the public, as Elijah Cummings and the other Democrats on the Select Committee have stated numerous times that they wanted both the emails and transcripts to be made public... and now it's Trey Gowdy's fault?

Priceless.

Kind of the same as a wife beater saying she made him beat her.
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

Kind of the same as a wife beater saying she made him beat her.

I suggest you read this:

WASHINGTON—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Ranking Member of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, sent a letter to Chairman Trey Gowdy to correct the public record after the CIA debunked Chairman Gowdy’s accusation that Secretary Clinton sent an email containing "some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.”

The full letter is online here and as follows:

CIA Debunks Gowdy?s Allegation That Clinton Email Contained Classified CIA Source | Select Committee on Benghazi, Democrats

Dear Mr. Chairman:

Contrary to your claims, the CIA yesterday informed both the Republican and Democratic staffs of the Select Committee that they do not consider the information you highlighted in your letter to be classified. Specifically, the CIA confirmed that “the State Department consulted with the CIA on this production, the CIA reviewed these documents, and the CIA made no redactions to protect classified information.”

Unfortunately, you sent your letter on October 7 without checking first with the CIA. Now that we have done so, we have learned that your accusations were incorrect.

As a result of your actions, the State Department yesterday asked the Select Committee not to reveal the individual’s name publicly, not for classification reasons, but to protect the individual’s privacy and avoid bringing additional undue attention to this person.




Sincerely,



Elijah E. Cummings
Ranking Member
 
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Here's where this fails:

"If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information... "

It wasn't classified.
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

Let's see here... Who's job is it to protect the identity (aka redact the names) of CIA operatives and sources in government emails?

Would it be the man heading up a congressional hearing, or the the government agency(s) who released those emails to the committee in the first place?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was the agency that released the emails to the committee, who have openly admitted that they failed to delete the source's name and mistakenly released the email to the committee unredacted. I'm going to go even further here and say that the none of the fault lies with the congressional committee, who for the purposes of government transparency, released the email publicly.

I hope you don't fall from that limb Grim, read post #8
 
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I hope you don't fall from that limb Grim, read post #8

I understand that Gowdy made a mistake by accidentally releasing the email without redacting the name. But the ultimate responsibility for that CIA source's identity becoming public doesn't fall upon Trey Gowdy, it lies at the feet of the State Department for ever allowing his name to have left the building in the first place. An error that the State Department has acknowledged and taken responsibility for publicly.

The headline of the Politico article insinuates that Gowdy failed to protect that source's name by accidentally releasing it to the public, therefore bears responsibility for outing a CIA source.... when it was in fact the failure of the State Department, who's job it is to insure that no classified information is contained in any documents they forward to people who don't have the proper security clearance, that bears the responsibility for that person being publicly outed.
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

I understand that Gowdy made a mistake by accidentally releasing the email without redacting the name. But the ultimate responsibility for that CIA source's identity becoming public doesn't fall upon Trey Gowdy, it lies at the feet of the State Department for ever allowing his name to have left the building in the first place. An error that the State Department has acknowledged and taken responsibility for publicly.

The headline of the Politico article insinuates that Gowdy failed to protect that source's name by accidentally releasing it to the public, therefore bears responsibility for outing a CIA source.... when it was in fact the failure of the State Department, who's job it is to insure that no classified information is contained in any documents they forward to people who don't have the proper security clearance, that bears the responsibility for that person being publicly outed.

It's painful that you have to explain the obvious.
 
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Exactly the point. So something that happened actually didn't happen but for the sake of spin lets generate a happening/story so we can make Gowdy look bad. It is part of the Hillary pre-questioning hysteria spin.

You really don't understand what happened here, do you?
 
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I suggest you read this:

WASHINGTON—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Ranking Member of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, sent a letter to Chairman Trey Gowdy to correct the public record after the CIA debunked Chairman Gowdy’s accusation that Secretary Clinton sent an email containing "some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.”

The full letter is online here and as follows:



Dear Mr. Chairman:

On October 7, 2015, you sent me a 13-page letter making a grave new accusation against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Specifically, you accused her of compromising national security and endangering lives.

The problem with your accusation—as with so many others during this investigation—is that you failed to check your facts before you made it, and the CIA has now informed the Select Committee that you were wrong. I believe your accusations were irresponsible, and I believe you owe the Secretary an immediate apology.

It appears that your letter was rushed out to the press to counter the public firestorm caused by Republican Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s stark admission that Republicans are using millions of taxpayer dollars to damage Secretary Clinton’s bid for president. However, your letter only provided further evidence of this fact.

In your letter on October 7, 2015, you stated that Secretary Clinton received an email from Sidney Blumenthal on March 18, 2011, that included the name of someone who purportedly provided information to the CIA. You asserted that this information was classified, arguing that Secretary Clinton “received classified information from Blumenthal—information she should have known was classified at the time she received it.” You then alleged:

Armed with that information, Secretary Clinton forwarded that email to a colleague—debunking her claim that she never sent any classified information from her private email address.

In your letter, you went to great lengths to highlight the gravity of your accusation, stating:

This information, the name of a human source, is some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.

To further inflate your claim, you placed your own redactions over the name of the individual with the words, “redacted due to sources and methods.” To be clear, these redactions were not made, and these words were not added, by any agency of the federal government responsible for enforcing classification guidelines.

Predictably, commentators began repeating your accusations in even more extreme terms, suggesting in headlines for example that “Clinton Burns CIA Libya Contact.”

Contrary to your claims, the CIA yesterday informed both the Republican and Democratic staffs of the Select Committee that they do not consider the information you highlighted in your letter to be classified. Specifically, the CIA confirmed that “the State Department consulted with the CIA on this production, the CIA reviewed these documents, and the CIA made no redactions to protect classified information.”

Unfortunately, you sent your letter on October 7 without checking first with the CIA. Now that we have done so, we have learned that your accusations were incorrect.

As a result of your actions, the State Department yesterday asked the Select Committee not to reveal the individual’s name publicly, not for classification reasons, but to protect the individual’s privacy and avoid bringing additional undue attention to this person.

Unfortunately, the standard operating procedure of this Select Committee has become to put out information publicly that is inaccurate and out of context in order to attack Secretary Clinton for political reasons. These repeated actions bring discredit on this investigation and undermine the integrity of the Select Committee and the House of Representatives.



Sincerely,



Elijah E. Cummings
Ranking Member

I read it and responded to you in another thread already. I haven't changed my mind. Cummings is just as much of a liar as Hillary is. The fear and desperation is thick with him and he is panicking because Hillary's ass in in a crack.
 
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You really don't understand what happened here, do you?

Yeah I do, that is why I started this thread. What you think happened is what you think happened. Read post #5 if you haven't already.
 
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It's painful that you have to explain the obvious.

After more than 15 years of posting on political forums, 6 here at DP, It still amazes me every time I have to explain something as obvious as this is. You know to this very day, I still can't comprehend how some folks can become so consumed by their political beliefs, that they allow it to replaces common sense, logic, reason and most importantly, how they allow it to dictate the truth to them. It's just one of those things I can't wrap my head around, and I don't expect that will ever change.
 
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I suggest you read this:

WASHINGTON—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Ranking Member of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, sent a letter to Chairman Trey Gowdy to correct the public record after the CIA debunked Chairman Gowdy’s accusation that Secretary Clinton sent an email containing "some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.”

The full letter is online here and as follows:




https://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/gowdy-response-to-latest-cummings-letter

Gowdy Response to Latest Cummings Letter
Contrary to your assertion, the CIA did not inform the Committee that anything about the facts stated in the October 7 letter “[was] wrong.” As usual, I would ask you to completely and accurately relate the facts rather than attempt to create an impression that is misleading based on an incomplete and selective recitation of the facts. In fact, my understanding is the CIA advised the Committee in a very brief email late Saturday night that it had reviewed the material in question and asked for no material to be redacted. In fact, the name of the alleged source was redacted from the material cleared for public release by someone in the Executive Branch – the fact that the CIA says it didn’t do it does not mean the material was not sensitive or classified. And in fact, additional information remains in the document that ordinarily would be considered highly sensitive. This appears to mean either Mr. Blumenthal conveyed false and unreliable information to Secretary Clinton about Libya and misrepresented it, or the review process is faulty or has been politicized. I also note the fact you did not quote the material in question in your letter, suggesting you yourself have reason to believe that it should not be publicly disclosed for some proper reason. These are important issues. I’m glad to know you also consider them important and worthy of detailed additional review by the Committee.

Didn't Hillary say she didn't have any personal information on her server? This would never have been a problem if Hillary didn't have classified information on her personal server. Maybe that is why she shouldn't have used a personal server. Just sayin.
 
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The simple fact is that there are a substantial number of federal entities which hold classification authority. What is deemed classified by one entity may not be to another. Cummings statement is a huge fail, like many of his solemn pronouncements - partisan in inception and partisan at the end of the day. It's important to remember that the CIA originally provided the video talking points to the WH. They are not necessarily a reliable source for anything made public regarding Benghazi.
 
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Here's where this fails:

"If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information... "

It wasn't classified.

But ... Hillary WAS the State Department.

To buy into Hillary's self-serving excuse you have one of 2 options:

(a) Hillary is too dumb to know what's classified without seeing something that told her
or
(b) Hillary is too dumb to wonder why nobody's sending her anything important.
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

I understand that Gowdy made a mistake by accidentally releasing the email without redacting the name. But the ultimate responsibility for that CIA source's identity becoming public doesn't fall upon Trey Gowdy, it lies at the feet of the State Department for ever allowing his name to have left the building in the first place. An error that the State Department has acknowledged and taken responsibility for publicly.

The headline of the Politico article insinuates that Gowdy failed to protect that source's name by accidentally releasing it to the public, therefore bears responsibility for outing a CIA source.... when it was in fact the failure of the State Department, who's job it is to insure that no classified information is contained in any documents they forward to people who don't have the proper security clearance, that bears the responsibility for that person being publicly outed.

What part of "it wasn't classified" are you not getting?

The person in question is also not a CIA Agent. Facts. Get to know 'em.
 
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"Despite Repeated Claims On Fox, The Source Was Not An "Undercover CIA Agent," But Rather, Moussa Koussa, Gaddafi's Former Intelligence Chief. Business Insider reported that the CIA source in question was Moussa Koussa, and that his identity "was not considered by the [CIA] to be secret at all":

The CIA has told Congress that the name of an alleged secret agency source, mentioned but then partially redacted by the U.S. State Department from an email received on Hillary Clinton's private server was not considered by the agency to be secret at all.

At issue is Moussa Koussa, a one-time intelligence chief for Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, and the question of whether or not his name should have been treated as a secret in an email Clinton received four years ago from a close confidant.

Republicans, who are trying to show Clinton mishandled classified information while secretary of state, have argued that Koussa's name should not have been included in the email she got on her private server from Sidney Blumenthal.

But the CIA, weighing in after the Republicans made their accusation earlier this month, has told lawmakers that Koussa's name was not classified, according to correspondence between the spy agency and officials of the House of Representatives panel set up to investigate the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on a U.S. diplomatic facility and nearby spy base in Benghazi, Libya. "

CIA: The alleged secret source in Hillary's emails was no secret - Business Insider
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

Here's where this fails:

"If the State Department accidentally failed to redact classified information... "

It wasn't classified.

If the State Department classified and redacted it then it was classified. Would people wholly ignorant of Government classification processes stop dumbing down threads with ignorant speculation, please?
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

Exactly the point. So something that happened actually didn't happen but for the sake of spin lets generate a happening/story so we can make Gowdy look bad. It is part of the Hillary pre-questioning hysteria spin.

Well, no. The State Department redacted the information, declaring it classified and not for public distribution. The fact that someone at the CIA didn't think it warranted classification does not invalidate the classification by the State Department.

I mean Hell, the same folks, like Cummings, who want to bow to CIA classification is a State Department action are the same folks who like to blast the CIA for bad decision making on a regular basis. That Cummings bows to the CIA on this instance is entirely political, and fails even the simplest sniff test for those of us who work in the area. The CIA doesn't have veto power over State's classification determinations anymore than State can veto the CIA.
 
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It's time for Trey Gowdy to pack his bags go back to sitting on a back-country doorstep dueling banjos with city folk, like he did in Deliverance.
 
Re: Politico suggests Trey Gowdy responsible for State Department screw-up

It's time for Trey Gowdy to pack his bags go back to sitting on a back-country doorstep dueling banjos with city folk, like he did in Deliverance.

And its time for you to stop trolling.
 
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