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Fox News Finally Concedes Benghazi Committee Is Political After Republicans Admit To

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Jack Hays said:
PP? You've lost me.
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Never mind. I'm getting way off-topic.

Anyway my point is if someone is a fiscal conservative any waste should bother him. This $5 mil is waste.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Never mind. I'm getting way off-topic.

Anyway my point is if someone is a fiscal conservative any waste should bother him. This $5 mil is waste.
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Well, let's start with the fact that I'm not especially conservative. Second, money well spent (like Reagan's deficits) is money well spent. Third, the Benghazi committee is pursuing a great public purpose.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Third, the Benghazi committee is pursuing a great public purpose.
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Only because of YOUR politics. 9 investigations is enough. 3 Republicans saying this is nothing but partisan politics is enough.

I'm no fan of Hillary, but enough is enough. Especially when this country's foreign policy and screw up over seas over the past 20+ years has been so F'ed up it's costs thousands of lives and $trillions. 4 people dying, while tragic, doesn't warrant all of this.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Only because of YOUR politics. 9 investigations is enough. 3 Republicans saying this is nothing but partisan politics is enough.

I'm no fan of Hillary, but enough is enough. Especially when this country's foreign policy and screw up over seas over the past 20+ years has been so F'ed up it's costs thousands of lives and $trillions. 4 people dying, while tragic, doesn't warrant all of this.
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We weren't doing too badly until recent years. I've been at the other end. If I were killed I would hope that my fellow citizens were not as dismissive as you seem to be. Keeping faith warrants every bit of "this."
 
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Jack Hays said:
We weren't doing too badly until recent years.
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Bull. We've been screwing up over there since at least the 80's. It really got bad in 2003.

If I were killed I would hope that my fellow citizens were not as dismissive as you seem to be
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You seems upset over 4 deaths by saying this. But the thousands before who died doesn't bother you? I don't even want to go there.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Bull. We've been screwing up over there since at least the 80's. It really got bad in 2003.



You seems upset over 4 deaths by saying this. But the thousands before who died doesn't bother you? I don't even want to go there.
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All the deaths bother me. You never get used to dead bodies. And I completely disagree that "we" have been "screwing up" since the 1980's. We've had quite a successful run until our leaders started throwing away victories.
 
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Jack Hays said:
All the deaths bother me. You never get used to dead bodies. And I completely disagree that "we" have been "screwing up" since the 1980's. We've had quite a successful run until our leaders started throwing away victories.
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You have a VERY partisan view of what deaths bother you, and which ones don't.

Long after the so called 'victory', long after the 'mission accomplished', long after the 'surge'. American troops were dying weekly, every single week they were dying in a country that didn't even want us there anymore. There was no victory there.

We're going to vehemently disagree about this.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:

You have a VERY partisan view of what deaths bother you, and which ones don't.

Long after the so called 'victory', long after the 'mission accomplished', long after the 'surge'. American troops were dying weekly, every single week they were dying in a country that didn't even want us there anymore. There was no victory there.

We're going to vehemently disagree about this.
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Both President Obama and VP Biden declared victory in Iraq. No Republican made that claim.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Both President Obama and VP Biden declared victory in Iraq. No Republican made that claim.
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Stop. They were all wrong. But the point we are discussing is Iraq was never a victory, not under Bush, not under Obama. Obama didn't throw anything anyway. Americans were dying weekly, it was time to get out.

Your concern of American deaths is so partisan it is troubling.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Stop. They were all wrong. But the point we are discussing is Iraq was never a victory, not under Bush, not under Obama. Obama didn't throw anything anyway. Americans were dying weekly, it was time to get out.

Your concern of American deaths is so partisan it is troubling.
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GWB handed over a victory in 2009. BHO threw it away. I am troubled by those who value our deaths so little that they give away what those deaths earned.
 
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The notion that any death is political is disturbing and so is accusing someone that they believe American deaths are somehow weighed by the partisan effects those deaths may have is disturbing. Jacks Hays simply wants the committee to find a reason for these deaths and if they could have been prevented. Lets not forget we were not at war with Libya, in Iraq and Afghanistan we were. Any American death is something to be taken very serious.
 
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Jack Hays said:
GWB handed over a victory in 2009. BHO threw it away. I am troubled by those who value our deaths so little that they give away what those deaths earned.
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Men were still dying weekly, in a country that didn't want us there. There was no victory. It was a hell hole under Bush, and it still was under Obama, and it still is. I'm not going to discuss this anymore, it's been done over and over here.

Again though it is troubling you dismiss the weekly deaths in Iraq of servicemen that went on for years under 2 presidents, but care so much about Benghazi. The only reason can be politics. That's pretty sad.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Men were still dying weekly, in a country that didn't want us there. There was no victory. It was a hell hole under Bush, and it still was under Obama, and it still is. I'm not going to discuss this anymore, it's been done over and over here.

Again though it is troubling you dismiss the weekly deaths in Iraq of servicemen that went on for years under 2 presidents, but care so much about Benghazi. The only reason can be politics. That's pretty sad.
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I was in Iraq. Don't tell me what I have to care about. BHO threw those deaths away. In Benghazi this administration's feckless indifference to our deaths was put on public display.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Both President Obama and VP Biden declared victory in Iraq. No Republican made that claim.
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Do the words "Mission Accomplished" mean anything to you?

Are you saying Bush didn't win the war? I doubt that's what you're trying to say.
 
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rocket88 said:
Do the words "Mission Accomplished" mean anything to you?

Are you saying Bush didn't win the war? I doubt that's what you're trying to say.
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"Mission accomplished" referred to the ouster of Saddam. It was nonetheless a premature declaration. GWB turned over a victory in 2009; BHO threw it away even while claiming it.
 
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Fenton said:
Yes. the Democrats on the committee are making this Political, as are everyone else that's trying to twist this into a " witch hunt "
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Everything in DC is politics. It's kinda what they do there, as a profession.

Had the parties been reversed, the same would be happening, and the same would be true.

If one party isn't keeping tabs and control on the other party, who would be?
 
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Jack Hays said:
"Mission accomplished" referred to the ouster of Saddam. It was nonetheless a premature declaration. GWB turned over a victory in 2009; BHO threw it away even while claiming it.
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The mental gymnastics required to keep up with your twisting are difficult.

You said no Republican claimed victory, then went on to prove yourself wrong.
 
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pbrauer said:
Yes, Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, Bret Baier admitted it was political

After two Republican members of Congress and a Republican ex-staffer admitted the partisan aims of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, several Fox News personalities finally conceded that "of course" the committee is political, but tried to justify it by arguing that "everything" is in Congress and Washington.​

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/10/16/fox-news-finally-concedes-benghazi-committee-is/206217
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The Nixon investigation in congress was also political, does that mean he wasn't a crook?

The 9/11 investigation in congress was political, does that mean that it shouldn't have happened?
 
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Jack Hays said:
I was in Iraq. Don't tell me what I have to care about. BHO threw those deaths away. In Benghazi this administration's feckless indifference to our deaths was put on public display.
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Adding more deaths to a lost cause makes no sense. We lost 50,000 in both Korea and Vietnam and walked away because eventually it makes no sense to keep dying for a lost cause. We weren't going to win in Korea, we weren't going to win in Vietnam. We weren't going to win in Iraq. Got to cut the losses eventually. And Thank God we did.

We should have never been in Iraq in the 1st place. You want to continue the mistake and continue the dying another 5-10-15 more years? Even though it wouldn't have changed a thing in Iraq, except it would have only meant more Americans died over there. Nope.

Dying in any war is awful. Dying in a war that shouldn't have happened in the 1st place and in a country that didn't want us there? Fcuk NO!
 
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rocket88 said:
The mental gymnastics required to keep up with your twisting are difficult.

You said no Republican claimed victory, then went on to prove yourself wrong.
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Where do you find the word "victory" in the phrase "mission accomplished?" Not the same thing. Never the same thing.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Adding more deaths to a lost cause makes no sense. We lost 50,000 in both Korea and Vietnam and walked away because eventually it makes no sense to keep dying for a lost cause. We weren't going to win in Korea, we weren't going to win in Vietnam. We weren't going to win in Iraq. Got to cut the losses eventually. And Thank God we did.

We should have never been in Iraq in the 1st place. You want to continue the mistake and continue the dying another 5-10-15 more years? Even though it wouldn't have changed a thing in Iraq, except it would have only meant more Americans died over there. Nope.

Dying in any war is awful. Dying in a war that shouldn't have happened in the 1st place and in a country that didn't want us there? Fcuk NO!
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The war that began in 2001 will continue for at least a generation, maybe two. In DoD they call it The Long War. You only make it worse by running.
 
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Jack Hays said:
The war that began in 2001 will continue for at least a generation, maybe two. In DoD they call it The Long War. You only make it worse by running.
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The MIC and the DoD love people like you. Long wars. And Bogeymen behind every door.

Good Night
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
The MIC and the DoD love people like you. Long wars. And Bogeymen behind every door.

Good Night
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I spent my career in those struggles. They are real. You benefit from the sacrifices of those who fight on your behalf.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I spent my career in those struggles. They are real. You benefit from the sacrifices of those who fight on your behalf.
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That's why we attacked a country in 2003 that had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

Again, Good Night
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
That's why we attacked a country in 2003 that had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

Again, Good Night
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That was a war of choice and perhaps a mistake (although I don't believe the jury is in on that). Regardless, the larger war against Islamic extremism will be with us for decades.
 
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