Bill O'Reilly: Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic

O'Reilly's average viewer is 70 years old. He's talking to christian conservatives who eat this stuff up.

TheDemSocialist said:

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Why do people watch this **** known as the O'Reilly factor?

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I agree that O'Reilly's statement wasn't correct, unless in his 40 years he never covered Jim Jones or what I have to believe are other examples...

With that said, I have to point out that you have once again resorted to dishonesty to disparage someone you disagrees with politically. The title of this op "Bill O'Reilly: Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" leads people to the false conclusion that O'Reilly said that people of faith do not commit murder. That is not what he said.

Since O'Reilly's actual statement is at best an exaggeration, if not out right false, why did you feel it was necessary to have to lie about what he said?

You start a thread to show your outrage over O'Reilly saying something that was false and/or misleading, and you use false and misleading statements about what he said to do so... All I can do is shake my head, laugh, and thank my lucky stars that unlike you, I don't have to resort to dishonesty to prop up my political beliefs and disparage those whom I disagree with.

Grim17 said:

I agree that O'Reilly's statement wasn't correct, unless in his 40 years he never covered Jim Jones or what I have to believe are other examples...

With that said, I have to point out that you have once again resorted to dishonesty to disparage someone you disagrees with politically. The title of this op "Bill O'Reilly: Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" leads people to the false conclusion that O'Reilly said that people of faith do not commit murder. That is not what he said.

Since O'Reilly's actual statement is at best an exaggeration, if not out right false, why did you feel it was necessary to have to lie about what he said?

You start a thread to show your outrage over O'Reilly saying something that was false and/or misleading, and you use false and misleading statements about what he said to do so... All I can do is shake my head, laugh, and thank my lucky stars that unlike you, I don't have to resort to dishonesty to prop up my political beliefs and disparage those whom I disagree with.

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Oh please. His whole segment was about the "rise of nihilism" and the increase of "no spiritual belief".... He repeatedly questioned his guests and kept on asking about how they lacked "spirituality", and then even brought up and one point "outside the jihadist doctrine", the doctor he was interesting then was saying, "umm I can point to mental illness", but in typical Bill fashion kept on interupting an explanation and repeating and repeating a question as she is explaining her answer... So he then he asked, "well can you point didnt have mental illness?" And the doctor said, well yea I could.... And then Bill in the middle of her answer interrupted and said: "Every single murderer over 40 years that I have covered in these circumstances has been either atheistic, agnostic, no religious basis at all." and cut her off... Typical Bill...
Full video interview and fact check (all sourced) of Bills claims can be found here: Fox News host blames 'atheists' and 'secular progressives' for Virginia shooting - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com

TheDemSocialist said:

Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Bill O'Reilly: Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic

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Why do people watch this **** known as the O'Reilly factor?

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Honestly? It beats the **** out of me. Even if he has someone on his show I'm interested in hearing from, he just shouts them down. He's an egomaniac with anger issues.

TheDemSocialist said:

Oh please. His whole segment was about the "rise of nihilism" and the increase of "no spiritual belief".... He repeatedly questioned his guests and kept on asking about how they lacked "spirituality", and then even brought up and one point "outside the jihadist doctrine", the doctor he was interesting then was saying, "umm I can point to mental illness", but in typical Bill fashion kept on interupting an explanation and repeating and repeating a question as she is explaining her answer... So he then he asked, "well can you point didnt have mental illness?" And the doctor said, well yea I could.... And then Bill in the middle of her answer interrupted and said: "Every single murderer over 40 years that I have covered in these circumstances has been either atheistic, agnostic, no religious basis at all." and cut her off... Typical Bill...
Full video interview and fact check (all sourced) of Bills claims can be found here: Fox News host blames 'atheists' and 'secular progressives' for Virginia shooting - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com

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That was a very nice rant, but it didn't address my post. You falsely attributed the statement "Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" to Bill O'Reilly in both your op and the title of your op, knowing full well that isn't what he said.

I want to know why you chose to misrepresent O'Reilly's words and lead people to believe that he said people of faith don't commit murders?

Since you do this quite often and make no apologies or correction when caught doing so, it's obvious to everyone that your actions are intentional. That being the case, could you please explain to me why you feel that using lies and falsehoods to misrepresent those you disagree with is morally justified behavior on your part?

Grim17 said:

That was a very nice rant, but it didn't address my post. You falsely attributed the statement "Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" to Bill O'Reilly in both your op and the title of your op, knowing full well that isn't what he said.

I want to know why you chose to misrepresent O'Reilly's words and lead people to believe that he said people of faith don't commit murders?

Since you do this quite often and make no apologies or correction when caught doing so, it's obvious to everyone that your actions are intentional. That being the case, could you please explain to me why you feel that using lies and falsehoods to misrepresent those you disagree with is morally justified behavior on your part?

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Technicality win

TheDemSocialist said:

Technicality win

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If that was your way of saying that I am right about your dishonesty, everyone already knew that and it went without saying.

You still haven't explained why you feel it's necessary to use dishonesty to attack those you disagree with politically in the first place, nor have you explained why you believe that resorting to such actions is justified behavior?

Grim17 said:

If that was your way of saying that I am right about your dishonesty, everyone already knew that and it went without saying.

You still haven't explained why you feel it's necessary to use dishonesty to attack those you disagree with politically in the first place, nor have you explained why you believe that resorting to such actions is justified behavior?

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Well saying my point was not about the technicality of the title of the article........

Hense why I responded about
Oh please. His whole segment was about the "rise of nihilism" and the increase of "no spiritual belief".... He repeatedly questioned his guests and kept on asking about how they lacked "spirituality", and then even brought up and one point "outside the jihadist doctrine", the doctor he was interesting then was saying, "umm I can point to mental illness", but in typical Bill fashion kept on interupting an explanation and repeating and repeating a question as she is explaining her answer... So he then he asked, "well can you point didnt have mental illness?" And the doctor said, well yea I could.... And then Bill in the middle of her answer interrupted and said: "Every single murderer over 40 years that I have covered in these circumstances has been either atheistic, agnostic, no religious basis at all." and cut her off... Typical Bill...
Full video interview and fact check (all sourced) of Bills claims can be found here: Fox News host blames 'atheists' and 'secular progressives' for Virginia shooting - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com

And your reply was all based around: "You falsely attributed the statement "Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" to Bill O'Reilly in both your op and the title of your op"
---Which was the title of the video an the link title to the video...

But anyways... Yay!

Grim17 said:

That was a very nice rant, but it didn't address my post. You falsely attributed the statement "Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic" to Bill O'Reilly in both your op and the title of your op, knowing full well that isn't what he said.

I want to know why you chose to misrepresent O'Reilly's words and lead people to believe that he said people of faith don't commit murders?

Since you do this quite often and make no apologies or correction when caught doing so, it's obvious to everyone that your actions are intentional. That being the case, could you please explain to me why you feel that using lies and falsehoods to misrepresent those you disagree with is morally justified behavior on your part?

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I don't see any dishonesty here, I think almost everyone missed what he actually said. He wasn't talking about all murders, he specifically said mass murders.

Typical spin from the no-spin guy.

X Factor said:

Honestly? It beats the **** out of me. Even if he has someone on his show I'm interested in hearing from, he just shouts them down. He's an egomaniac with anger issues.

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I'm told that long ago, media used to take a journalistic approach and allow their interview subject to finish their sentence and make a case, but today everyone with their own show - from limbaugh to bill maher - is a complete overbearing attention whore.

The guests are just there to make the host look good, basically, so the viewers will fall in love with the host and not just tune in when a certain guest is on