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Top Conservative Magazine Calls Bernie Sanders A Nazi

Gimmesometruth said:
"Hurr durr, I cannot put together "National Socialist", holocaust, kaisers.....someone help me!"
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Nazi = Brutal and murderous military arm of an evil, genocidal, racist, oppressive and completely psychotic early 20th century dictator, who ordered the extermination of all the worlds Jews, along with people he considered defective, substandard and racially impure.

National Socialism = A political party, a structure of government, an economic system of state governance.

National Socialism wasn't responsible for the Holocaust, racial engineering, or the attempt to take over Europe... Hitler and his henchmen were. You must be a National Socialist to be a Nazi... but you don't have to be a Nazi to be a National Socialist. That article pointed out the similarities between the social and economic governance beliefs of Bernie Sanders, and that of the National Socialist party that ran Germany during WWII. This wasn't about the racism, atrocities or genocidal actions of Hitler and his Nazi loyalists.
 
poweRob said:
nationalism: a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries

Nationalism | Definition of nationalism by Merriam-Webster​



Nationalism is hard corp right wing territory. But that word isn't demonized like the right did to socialism so when people bring up Nationalist socialism... it's a massive paradox and they can't understand that because they were only trained to hate the word socialism. So they ignore the Nationalism part. They writer is trying to be clever and exploit this ignorance in their readers.
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also the definition of American exceptionalism
 
justabubba said:
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also the definition of American exceptionalism
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Preached by the right, to the right and absorbed in right wing circles as a doctrine.
 
The ConservaTEAs will also try to extrapolate that Socialism is next to Communism, don't you think?
After all, MaObama is both, right rightist ?

Fenton said:
The thing is, you don't have resort to hyperbole to critique Sanders.

He's a avowed Socialist. Nuff' said.

Or it should be enough to turn any American voter off to the prospect of Sanders as our next President
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poweRob said:
Top Conservative Magazine Calls Bernie Sanders A Nazi

A quarter century ago, attorney Michael Godwin announced one of the most well known laws of Internet discourse: “as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” Implicit in Godwin’s Law is a line in the sand — anyone who makes a Hitler or Nazi comparison has lost whatever argument they are engaged in.

Earlier this month, the conservative National Review’s Kevin Williamson drove a steamroller over this line in the sand. Williamson’s article, “Bernie’s Strange Brew of Nationalism and Socialism,” which was published two weeks ago but became available on the conservative magazine’s website on Monday, is not a model of clarity. It bounces between criticism of Democratic presidential candidate and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ trade policies and quotes from some of Sanders’ least thoughtful supporters. Yet, as the title of the article suggests, Williamson does come to a bold conclusion — Bernie Sanders is a literal Nazi who is leading a literal Nazi movement in the United States.​

The ignorance is so immense in this one. :lol:

He's saying that Bernie Sanders, a demcratic-socialist Jew who had family that died in the Holocaust, is a nazi. I guess the right is through pumping up Bernie Sanders anymore to hurt Hillary and are now attached king him... Must be a good sign.
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By definition, shouldn't we just invoke Godwinn's rule, & move on?
 
poweRob said:
He's saying that Bernie Sanders, a demcratic-socialist Jew who had family that died in the Holocaust, is a nazi. I guess the right is through pumping up Bernie Sanders anymore to hurt Hillary and are now attached king him... Must be a good sign.
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Why do you think GOP ConservaTEAts are attacking Sen. Sanders--because he is a threat to the GOP--really?
The GOP will tie Sanders around HRC's neck like an albatross--no matter how far she tacks for the Warren/Sanders vote.

This is why HRC needs a VP candidate like Jim Webb who has a solid backbone and immediately trashed Trump on McCain.
He locks down Virginia--helps in PA, NC and FL where HRC may be suspect--and will be great with foreign policy and Veterans .
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Um, "nationally inclined" is not equal to "nationalist", as in "Sanders wants the best for the nation" versus:

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As I pointed out, the main problem is the socialist bent and less the degree of nationalism. The nationalism only comes on top and increases the dangers of the socialist attitude and philosophy.
 
Grim17 said:
Nazi = Brutal and murderous military arm of an evil, genocidal, racist, oppressive and completely psychotic early 20th century dictator, who ordered the extermination of all the worlds Jews, along with people he considered defective, substandard and racially impure.

National Socialism = A political party, a structure of government, an economic system of state governance.

National Socialism wasn't responsible for the Holocaust, racial engineering, or the attempt to take over Europe... Hitler and his henchmen were. You must be a National Socialist to be a Nazi... but you don't have to be a Nazi to be a National Socialist. That article pointed out the similarities between the social and economic governance beliefs of Bernie Sanders, and that of the National Socialist party that ran Germany during WWII. This wasn't about the racism, atrocities or genocidal actions of Hitler and his Nazi loyalists.
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and the references to Sander's family history were simply an aside that had nothing to do with the article, right?
 
Grim17 said:
Nazi = Brutal and murderous military arm of an evil, genocidal, racist, oppressive and completely psychotic early 20th century dictator, who ordered the extermination of all the worlds Jews, along with people he considered defective, substandard and racially impure.

National Socialism = A political party, a structure of government, an economic system of state governance.

National Socialism wasn't responsible for the Holocaust, racial engineering, or the attempt to take over Europe... Hitler and his henchmen were. You must be a National Socialist to be a Nazi... but you don't have to be a Nazi to be a National Socialist. That article pointed out the similarities between the social and economic governance beliefs of Bernie Sanders, and that of the National Socialist party that ran Germany during WWII. This wasn't about the racism, atrocities or genocidal actions of Hitler and his Nazi loyalists.
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It wasn't about genocide? Then why did the article mention that?

The idea that Bernie Sanderd is an ultranationalist flies in the face of every right-wing smear about liberals hating America.
 
Chomsky said:
By definition, shouldn't we just invoke Godwinn's rule, & move on?
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I guess that's possible... But the writer and his sheep are in serious denial that he even evoked the nazi comparison.
 
NIMBY said:
Why do you think GOP ConservaTEAts are attacking Sen. Sanders--because he is a threat to the GOP--really?
The GOP will tie Sanders around HRC's neck like an albatross--no matter how far she tacks for the Warren/Sanders vote.

This is why HRC needs a VP candidate like Jim Webb who has a solid backbone and immediately trashed Trump on McCain.
He locks down Virginia--helps in PA, NC and FL where HRC may be suspect--and will be great with foreign policy and Veterans .
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Sorry, but I'm done with that crappy notion of blue dog dems that you are peddling here. It doesn't work.why the hell would any right wi get vote for a republican lite when they can just vote for a real republican? They won't. Waffling to the so called center is a loser strategy.
 
NIMBY said:
Why do you think GOP ConservaTEAts are attacking Sen. Sanders--because he is a threat to the GOP--really?
The GOP will tie Sanders around HRC's neck like an albatross--no matter how far she tacks for the Warren/Sanders vote.

This is why HRC needs a VP candidate like Jim Webb who has a solid backbone and immediately trashed Trump on McCain.
He locks down Virginia--helps in PA, NC and FL where HRC may be suspect--and will be great with foreign policy and Veterans .
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Hrrrmmmm....

Reason #1 to Vote Bernie: Sanders Does 'Better Than Clinton' Against GOP in Swing States

In states that will decide the 2016 presidential election, Quinippiac reports that "Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker."​

Well there goes that argument. Got another one to cling to?
 
Q is a GOP poll--it's in their interest, as with Cruz and Co., to promote Sanders--why would far-right wing GOPs be promoting Bern?
I would have expected you to be wiser than this.

Sanders will get plenty of GOP Hillary-hater votes in open primaries like NH.
As such, I expect Bern to win in NH .

poweRob said:
Hrrrmmmm....

Reason #1 to Vote Bernie: Sanders Does 'Better Than Clinton' Against GOP in Swing States

In states that will decide the 2016 presidential election, Quinippiac reports that "Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, runs as well as, or better than Clinton against Rubio, Bush and Walker."​

Well there goes that argument. Got another one to cling to?
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poweRob said:
Sorry, but I'm done with that crappy notion of blue dog dems that you are peddling here. It doesn't work.why the hell would any right wi get vote for a republican lite when they can just vote for a real republican? They won't. Waffling to the so called center is a loser strategy.
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Clinton/Webb v. Bush/Kasich
 
NIMBY said:
Clinton/Webb v. Bush/Kasich
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And bush would win. That lame ass combo of Clinton/Webb would do nothing to turn out the vote at all. People will just sit at home and ignore that snooze lineup. The only vote turning out for them would be those voting GOP because they hate hillary so much.
 
NIMBY said:
Q is a GOP poll--it's in their interest, as with Cruz and Co., to promote Sanders--why would far-right wing GOPs be promoting Bern?
I would have expected you to be wiser than this.

Sanders will get plenty of GOP Hillary-hater votes in open primaries like NH.
As such, I expect Bern to win in NH .
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I see. It's just all a lie and a conspiracy. My bad.
 
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