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CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed[W:52]

Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
(hat tip HotAir.com)

For those not familiar with this issue, this from CNN:




Later in that same article, you have this:




That's pretty cut and dry... Republicans were the ones who supported and casted the deciding votes to confirm Archuleta, Obama's nominee for PMO Director back in 2013, so rightly, CNN questioned and several "unnamed" aids to the Republican Senators who voted for her confirmation, to find out why they dropped the ball...

There's just a few problems with that scenario though... It's fiction:

1. Republicans only held 45 Senate seats to the Democrats 55 seats.
2. All 35 votes against her confirmation were cast by Republicans.
3. Only 7 Republicans voted to confirm her (3 did not vote).
4. Not one Democrat voted against her confirmation, while all 55 voted for it.
5. Even if the 7 Republicans who voted "yes", had voted "no", she still would have been confirmed 55-42.


The bottom line is, Republicans had nothing to do with her nomination being confirmed. There was nothing Republicans could have done (short of filibustering) that would have stopped her confirmation, which begs the question... Why in the hell did CNN lay blame on Republicans (using the famed "unnamed" sources) and not mention a damned thing about why all 55 Democrats voted to confirm her?

The answer is as simple as the nose of your face... Liberal Media Bias... yet as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, the left will either pretend this thread doesn't exist, or they will consult various liberal blogs and post the latest talking points that will either deny that this incident was liberal bias, deny that liberal bias dominates the news media, and/or attack Fox news in an effort to change the topic...

So what say you libs? Are you ready to admit the truth, or is it going to be politics as usual?




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Well, HR Directors are not techies. They hire and fire and supervise the techies. So the Director would not be directly responsible for security breaches. It would be the Technical Director. But we don't have a Technical Director, do we?

So I would have to ask:
1. When did the head of the technical dept advise the HR Director there had been breach?
2. Had the techies been given all the software and assistance they needed for protection of data?
3. Did the techies ask for something that was not provided?
4. Had the techies warned the HR Director of the possibility of a data breach?
5. Is there even a head techie?
6. Why don't we have an IT Dept.?

This HR Director seems to have been as qualified as any in the past. She had been a director of services at a large law firm, in addition to being responsible to hiring, firing, and managing people as the head of other depts.

HR Directors hire, fire, and manage personnel, in addition to the numerous duties associated with the personnel, like budgets, terminations, layoffs, etc. They are not technical people.

We probably don't have the money to have an IT Department, and the Republicans would fight it. But it seems to me that that's what we need. Most large businesses these days have an IT department or section, with a head of IT, since it is a critical part of business, and it is a specialty with its own skills and language.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

StillBallin75 said:
Holy crap on a cracker. If this is what passes for "media bias" in your eyes then you're going to see it wherever you want to see it. From where I stand the article isn't blaming Republicans for confirming Archuleta, it's just talking about Republicans admitting in hindsight that they should have been more apprehensive about her confirmation.

"Blame" would be a sentence like "It's the Republicans' fault that Archuleta was confirmed and all these hacks happened."
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Grim17 said:
What mistake was that Pete?
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I retract that statement, StillBallin75 has the answer. Another one of your threads goes down in flames.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

JumpinJack said:
Well, HR Directors are not techies. They hire and fire and supervise the techies. So the Director would not be directly responsible for security breaches. It would be the Technical Director. But we don't have a Technical Director, do we?

So I would have to ask:
1. When did the head of the technical dept advise the HR Director there had been breach?
2. Had the techies been given all the software and assistance they needed for protection of data?
3. Did the techies ask for something that was not provided?
4. Had the techies warned the HR Director of the possibility of a data breach?
5. Is there even a head techie?
6. Why don't we have an IT Dept.?

This HR Director seems to have been as qualified as any in the past. She had been a director of services at a large law firm, in addition to being responsible to hiring, firing, and managing people as the head of other depts.

HR Directors hire, fire, and manage personnel, in addition to the numerous duties associated with the personnel, like budgets, terminations, layoffs, etc. They are not technical people.

We probably don't have the money to have an IT Department, and the Republicans would fight it. But it seems to me that that's what we need. Most large businesses these days have an IT department or section, with a head of IT, since it is a critical part of business, and it is a specialty with its own skills and language.
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Heya JJ.
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Nah, BO and his Team said they did a whole lot more than that. Something that was meaningful. Something to really improve Cyber security.


The administration said it has stepped up its cybersecurity efforts by proposing new legislation, urging private industry to share more information about attacks and examining how the government conducts sensitive background investigations.....snip~

:confused:
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

StillBallin75 said:
Holy crap on a cracker. If this is what passes for "media bias" in your eyes then you're going to see it wherever you want to see it. From where I stand the article isn't blaming Republicans for confirming Archuleta, it's just talking about Republicans admitting in hindsight that they should have been more apprehensive about her confirmation.

"Blame" would be a sentence like "It's the Republicans' fault that Archuleta was confirmed and all these hacks happened."
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Game, set, match.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
(hat tip HotAir.com)For those not familiar with this issue, this from CNN:Later in that same article, you have this:That's pretty cut and dry... Republicans were the ones who supported and casted the deciding votes to confirm Archuleta, Obama's nominee for PMO Director back in 2013, so rightly, CNN questioned and several "unnamed" aids to the Republican Senators who voted for her confirmation, to find out why they dropped the ball... There's just a few problems with that scenario though... It's fiction:1. Republicans only held 45 Senate seats to the Democrats 55 seats.2. All 35 votes against her confirmation were cast by Republicans.3. Only 7 Republicans voted to confirm her (3 did not vote).4. Not one Democrat voted against her confirmation, while all 55 voted for it.5. Even if the 7 Republicans who voted "yes", had voted "no", she still would have been confirmed 55-42.The bottom line is, Republicans had nothing to do with her nomination being confirmed. There was nothing Republicans could have done (short of filibustering) that would have stopped her confirmation, which begs the question... Why in the hell did CNN lay blame on Republicans (using the famed "unnamed" sources) and not mention a damned thing about why all 55 Democrats voted to confirm her?The answer is as simple as the nose of your face... Liberal Media Bias... yet as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, the left will either pretend this thread doesn't exist, or they will consult various liberal blogs and post the latest talking points that will either deny that this incident was liberal bias, deny that liberal bias dominates the news media, and/or attack Fox news in an effort to change the topic...So what say you libs? Are you ready to admit the truth, or is it going to be politics as usual?
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I love your analysis, I really do. It's completely wrong. Lol you need to read the following over and over until you understand what it's actually saying.

.Aides to Republican lawmakers who voted for her confirmation now acknowledge they didn't pay enough attention to the importance of technology in the agency Archuleta was taking over.​
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

JumpinJack said:
Well, HR Directors are not techies. They hire and fire and supervise the techies. So the Director would not be directly responsible for security breaches. It would be the Technical Director. But we don't have a Technical Director, do we?

So I would have to ask:
1. When did the head of the technical dept advise the HR Director there had been breach?
2. Had the techies been given all the software and assistance they needed for protection of data?
3. Did the techies ask for something that was not provided?
4. Had the techies warned the HR Director of the possibility of a data breach?
5. Is there even a head techie?
6. Why don't we have an IT Dept.?

This HR Director seems to have been as qualified as any in the past. She had been a director of services at a large law firm, in addition to being responsible to hiring, firing, and managing people as the head of other depts.

HR Directors hire, fire, and manage personnel, in addition to the numerous duties associated with the personnel, like budgets, terminations, layoffs, etc. They are not technical people.

We probably don't have the money to have an IT Department, and the Republicans would fight it. But it seems to me that that's what we need. Most large businesses these days have an IT department or section, with a head of IT, since it is a critical part of business, and it is a specialty with its own skills and language.
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What does all that have to do with the op?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

pbrauer said:
I retract that statement, StillBallin75 has the answer. Another one of your threads goes down in flames.
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He does?

The democrats voted to confirm her 55-0, while every single vote against her confirmation was cast by the republicans. Even if every republican voted against her, she still would have been confirmed, yet CNN writes a paragraph critical of them? Democrats march in lock step with Obama, but republicans are criticized for her confirmation... LMMFAO

You need to visit planet earth some day Pete where things make sense and leave planet Media Matters for good.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

pbrauer said:
I love your analysis, I really do. It's completely wrong. Lol you need to read the following over and over until you understand what it's actually saying.

.Aides to Republican lawmakers who voted for her confirmation now acknowledge they didn't pay enough attention to the importance of technology in the agency Archuleta was taking over.​
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Exactly Pete... It was all the republicans fault she was confirmed,,, They dropped the ball on this one and because of that, she was confirmed... LMMFAO
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Kobie said:
Yeah, right. Good one.
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Unlike you, I admit when i make a mistake... Since I wasn't wrong, there's nothing for me to admit...

Now that you have written your typical hit post without bothering to comment on the thread, your job is done. The libs will give you a cookie later I'm sure, so why don't you run along play until then?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
He does?

The democrats voted to confirm her 55-0, while every single vote against her confirmation was cast by the republicans. Even if every republican voted against her, she still would have been confirmed, yet CNN writes a paragraph critical of them? Democrats march in lock step with Obama, but republicans are criticized for her confirmation... LMMFAO

You need to visit planet earth some day Pete where things make sense and leave planet Media Matters for good.
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You lost this thread grim, please post the words where you say the republicans are criticized.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
Exactly Pete... It was all the republicans fault she was confirmed,,, They dropped the ball on this one and because of that, she was confirmed... LMMFAO
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Read it again, they are not saying it was the republicans fault she was confirmed. Lololololol
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

pbrauer said:
You lost this thread grim, please post the words where you say the republicans are criticized.
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"Aides to Republican lawmakers who voted for her confirmation now acknowledge they didn't pay enough attention to the importance of technology in the agency Archuleta was taking over"

Those bone-headed republicans dropped the ball, because they were clueless about the job she was applying for... That according to nameless aids to various republican senators who who voted yes and are responsible for the womans confirmation.

Notice that then never mention that 6 times as many democrats voted to confirm her than republicans?

Notice that they never mentioned if they has asked democratic aids why all 55 senators voted to confirm her, and why not one of them voted against it?

Who was in the majority and controlled the Senate back then?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
Unlike you, I admit when i make a mistake... Since I wasn't wrong, there's nothing for me to admit...

Now that you have written your typical hit post without bothering to comment on the thread, your job is done. The libs will give you a cookie later I'm sure, so why don't you run along play until then?
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Are you going to admit your wrong tonight?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

pbrauer said:
Read it again, they are not saying it was the republicans fault she was confirmed. Lololololol
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That is certainly the implication.... Why would they criticize republicans who voted yes, when their votes were absolutely meaningless?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

pbrauer said:
Are you going to admit your wrong tonight?
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I'm not wrong and that's all there is to say about it.

If you want to lie to yourself, go right ahead.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
"Aides to Republican lawmakers who voted for her confirmation now acknowledge they didn't pay enough attention to the importance of technology in the agency Archuleta was taking over"

Those bone-headed republicans dropped the ball, because they were clueless about the job she was applying for... That according to nameless aids to various republican senators who who voted yes and are responsible for the womans confirmation.

Notice that then never mention that 6 times as many democrats voted to confirm her than republicans?

Notice that they never mentioned if they has asked democratic aids why all 55 senators voted to confirm her, and why not one of them voted against it?

Who was in the majority and controlled the Senate back then?
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JFC read it again!!!!
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
I'm not wrong and that's all there is to say about it.

If you want to lie to yourself, go right ahead.
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Where in the article did it say the republicans were responsible for her confirmation??
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

US Conservative said:
Same old typical lefty spin. These guys need some new ideas.
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I have a great idea for them... How about they embrace reality and the truth for a change, that way they don't have to lie and spin in order to validate their flimsy beliefs.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
I have a great idea for them... How about they embrace reality and the truth for a change, that way they don't have to lie and spin in order to validate their flimsy beliefs.
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If reality does not coincide with their belief system, they go nuts. :lol:
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

US Conservative said:
Same old typical lefty spin. These guys need some new ideas.
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LMMFAO There no spin here, Grim is wrong. The question is he going to admit it?
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

US Conservative said:
If reality does not coincide with their belief system, they go nuts. :lol:
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As we have just witnessed.... Maybe one day they will wake up and realize that life is so much easier and pleasurable when you have real, valid beliefs that you don't have to lie and spin all the time in order to prop up.
 
Re: CNN blames Republicans for Archuleta being confirmed

Grim17 said:
As we have just witnessed.... Maybe one day they will wake up and realize that life is so much easier and pleasurable when you have real, valid beliefs that you don't have to lie and spin all the time in order to prop up.
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Please post the part in the article where it says the republicans were responsible for her confirmation.
 
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