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Birth control is a conspiracy to eradicate the poor

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at least according to this Fox Newsie:
GUTFELD: If you’re talking about free birth control, who’s going to use free birth control? The people who can’t afford it. So the left has figured out a way to eradicate the poor, and it’s by eradicating the poor!
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Does fair and balanced have to include rational?
 
Yes, liberals want to eradicate the poor, and the rich, and the middle class!
 
Well, it is in a way. People having more children than they can financially care for is certainly a large contributer to continued and worsened poverty. Yeah, completely accessible birth control will get rid of a lot of the poor... by virtue of some of them digging their way out of poverty BEFORE they have kids.

I know, it's terrible. :roll:
 
MistressNomad said:
Well, it is in a way. People having more children than they can financially care for is certainly a large contributer to continued and worsened poverty. Yeah, completely accessible birth control will get rid of a lot of the poor... by virtue of some of them digging their way out of poverty BEFORE they have kids.

I know, it's terrible. :roll:
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OMG, rational thought.

*swoons*
 
It's Greg Gutfeld....so I guess you all always agree with Bill Maher, Anderson Cooper, and Stephen Colbert. Please, reach for a few more straws.
 
Dittohead not! said:
at least according to this Fox Newsie:


Does fair and balanced have to include rational?
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What stupid tripe.

Trust me: middle class, rich - all of these people would take advantage of free BC if it was offered to them . . . why do people assume that ONLY poor people go for 'free' anything?

In fact: I beg to differ completely. Some people struggle financially because they DON'T take advantage of smart-shopping things such as coupons or free essentials when they're offered.
 
MistressNomad said:
Well, it is in a way. People having more children than they can financially care for is certainly a large contributer to continued and worsened poverty. Yeah, completely accessible birth control will get rid of a lot of the poor... by virtue of some of them digging their way out of poverty BEFORE they have kids.

I know, it's terrible. :roll:
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In many ways, I am for eradicating the poor and eradicating poverty...
 
Aunt Spiker said:
What stupid tripe.

Trust me: middle class, rich - all of these people would take advantage of free BC if it was offered to them . . . why do people assume that ONLY poor people go for 'free' anything?

In fact: I beg to differ completely. Some people struggle financially because they DON'T take advantage of smart-shopping things such as coupons or free essentials when they're offered.
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I know, my grandpa always saved all his money and tried to get everything for free but gran says that's because he slavic and they are prone to stealing... :shrug:
 
I did a internship with a spoiled rich kid once, and he was so annoying. He tried to figure out how to get stuff out of the company for free all the time, and get them to pay for falsely claimed "work expenses." He was so damn cheap and whiny.
 
MistressNomad said:
Well, it is in a way. People having more children than they can financially care for is certainly a large contributer to continued and worsened poverty. Yeah, completely accessible birth control will get rid of a lot of the poor... by virtue of some of them digging their way out of poverty BEFORE they have kids.

I know, it's terrible. :roll:
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Regardless of whether people are able to find a way to beat the odds and get out of poverty, humans are, according to scientists, animals who adapt to their environments. One of the often drawn parallels between often seen reproduction strategies in other animals as compared to humans, involves the hostility of the environment.

Among non-human animals we see that the more hostile the environment is to the animal, the more babies the animal is likely to have and the less hostile it is, the fewer they are likely to have. For example, sea turtles lay enormous amounts of eggs as their babies must run the gauntlet of preying birds before they get to the ocean; additionally, they are very small compared to mature turtles when they hatch and their average life expectancy is low because they still have to grow into full sized adults without becoming prey to other predators in the sea all without the assistance of the mother.

On the other hand, bears, for example, have one (or two if they have twins) bay at a time as their environment is no where near as hostile as that of the sea turtle. There are no predators that target bears other than humans and the mother bear stays with the cub until it is an adult. So as you can see the more hostile the environment, the more children are birthed; the less hostile the environment the less children are birthed.

Some argue that among other things, the reason why humans have more babies when in poverty is due to a lack of education or access to birth control. However, in the U.S., where birth control is free and so is public education up to the 12th grade, we still see more babies born per woman in poverty than we do in wealth.

See the graph/links below showing the relationship between wealth and births:

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http://www.freakonomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/wolfersimage012.png

Freakonomics » The Rich vs Poor Debate: Are Kids Normal or Inferior Goods?

What's the solution you may ask ... to me it seems relatively clear ... force the poor to keep their births low or make our environment less hostile, i.e. distribute the wealth in a more even fashion, making it possible for a lower class to be paid a living wage, re-establishing the middle class, while still allowing an upper class
 
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SheWolf said:
Taking birth control is an individual choice. You'd think conservatives would understand that...
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Conservatives also understand democrats and liberals want the government to pay for it. (In other words, you and me.)
 
Dittohead not! said:
Does fair and balanced have to include rational?
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Actually, it is not all that far off from the truth. However, what it does not mention is that it is actually intended originally as a way to reduce the number of blacks in the nation.

Most people have heard of Planned Parenthood. However, less can give you the name of the founder of the organization. That woman is Margaret Sanger.

Now to many, she is a saint of Women's Rights. She is the one that fought hard to make birth control legal in the first place. There is an award named after her, and in 2009 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won the award.

To me, this is not much different then giving somebody an Adolph Hitler Award.

Many people refuse to admit the fact that Margaret Sanger was also an outright racist, white supremist, and a believer of both Eugenics and Euthenasia. And one of the reason she founded Planned Parenthood in the first place was to reduce the number of black babies born in the narion.

And she wrote and campaigned a lot about the topic. In her 1934 book A Plan for Peace, she proposed the following as a Congressional department:

Keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924.

As well as:

Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.

And did you know that one of the original names for "Planned Parenthood" was "The Negro Project"? And it was not done out of kindness to the race. It was to reduce as low as possible the number of black births. A great many of her writings delt with the "Aryan Race", "Racial Purity", and "purifying bloodlines". Sound familiar?
 
Oozlefinch said:
Actually, it is not all that far off from the truth. However, what it does not mention is that it is actually intended originally as a way to reduce the number of blacks in the nation.

Most people have heard of Planned Parenthood. However, less can give you the name of the founder of the organization. That woman is Margaret Sanger.

Now to many, she is a saint of Women's Rights. She is the one that fought hard to make birth control legal in the first place. There is an award named after her, and in 2009 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won the award.

To me, this is not much different then giving somebody an Adolph Hitler Award.

Many people refuse to admit the fact that Margaret Sanger was also an outright racist, white supremist, and a believer of both Eugenics and Euthenasia. And one of the reason she founded Planned Parenthood in the first place was to reduce the number of black babies born in the narion.

And she wrote and campaigned a lot about the topic. In her 1934 book A Plan for Peace, she proposed the following as a Congressional department:

Keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924.

As well as:

Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.

And did you know that one of the original names for "Planned Parenthood" was "The Negro Project"? And it was not done out of kindness to the race. It was to reduce as low as possible the number of black births. A great many of her writings delt with the "Aryan Race", "Racial Purity", and "purifying bloodlines". Sound familiar?
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That all may be true then

But I doubt planned parent hood today is out to lower the number of black births in the US. If it were the former southern democrats (now southern republicans would be all for planned parent hood. Today Planned Parenthood is an equal opportunity to reduce births in the US regardless of race. If we were to condeme organizations for what was done in the past today, anyone driving a MB, BMW, Ford would have to be ashamed of themselves. Anyone who voted for GWB would have to be ashamed of themselves (Nazi banking grandpa)
 
Aunt Spiker said:
What stupid tripe.

Trust me: middle class, rich - all of these people would take advantage of free BC if it was offered to them . . . why do people assume that ONLY poor people go for 'free' anything?

In fact: I beg to differ completely. Some people struggle financially because they DON'T take advantage of smart-shopping things such as coupons or free essentials when they're offered.
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I would totally take advantage of free birth control! that stuff gets expensive!! usa, usa, usa!
 
Dittohead not! said:
at least according to this Fox Newsie:


Does fair and balanced have to include rational?
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The lapse in logic here is astounding.

It's amazing how if you're going to paint a party with a massive brush, at least have the courtesy to keep your story straight so that I know what to be a hateful little bastard for.

"Democrats want the poor to stay poor so they can put them all on welfare and keep getting their votes!"

"Democrats hate the poor and want to get rid of the poor so they put them all on birth control to eradicate them!"

Makes complete sense :coffeepap
 
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