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Protesters Dragged Away at US Military Base Demonstration in Japan

Captain Adverse said:
Dude, President Monroe is on the phone. He is asking for his Doctrine back. :doh
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I appreciate the reference. The Monroe Doctrine is one of our greatest proclamations, and formed part of the intellectual basis for the metamorphosis of our foreign policy in the 20th Century.
 
Sherman123 said:
I appreciate the reference. The Monroe Doctrine is one of our greatest proclamations, and formed part of the intellectual basis for the metamorphosis of our foreign policy in the 20th Century.
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...which goes in contrary to your babbling.

Sherman123 said:
Hardly. We didn't seize the territory of Iraq or Afghanistan for annexation, which is clearly what is meant when saying 'seizing territory'. As for the overthrow of Mosaddegh we had a limited role and even that was in pursuit of the greater goal of preventing the expansion of Communism and thus safeguarding the democratic community. Whether it was the right or wrong decision is a different matter.
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Yawn. We overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran who wanted to nationalize the oil industry. We have no right to preach to other nations about democracy. If you wish to wander into delusion, I'm not going with you. Have fun there.

Back to the topic:

The growing sentiment against US military bases in Japan will affect our relations with the country.
 
Sherman123 said:
Because we have a world to win. We either fight for the world we want to create, or we let others shape it in our absence. We are the only plausible leader of the Democratic world, and we have shouldered the burden for our benefit for the the benefit of civilization.
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No, the US does not have a world to win or to shape.
 
Sherman123 said:
Hardly. We didn't seize the territory of Iraq or Afghanistan for annexation, which is clearly what is meant when saying 'seizing territory'. As for the overthrow of Mosaddegh we had a limited role and even that was in pursuit of the greater goal of preventing the expansion of Communism and thus safeguarding the democratic community. Whether it was the right or wrong decision is a different matter.
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People can choose for themselves how they want to live. If they want communism that is their business and no one else's. If we just let people make their own decisions about their countries more than a few conflicts would have never happened.
 
Sherman123 said:
Yes. It's the trajectory we've been on since Jefferson first gave voice to the idea. Fortunately the debate is limited to how engaged we should be with regard to these duties, not whether we should have them at all. That opinion is relegated to a decisive minority. We still embrace our global mission.
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Yeah, we just kill leaders of other countries and collapse nation states. When that is all said and done we do a ****ty job of making the area whole again.
 
le bouffon said:
TOKYO — Japanese police on Thursday dragged away a group of elderly protesters trying to block construction of a US military base in Okinawa, the latest flare-up in tensions over the bitterly opposed project.

Hundreds of local Okinawans, most of them elderly, were staging a sit-in protest with their arms linked in a bid to block trucks and other construction vehicles.

In response, police dragged away some demonstrators including physically picking up frail activists, television images showed.

"Okinawa doesn't belong to the United States or the central government," a visibly angry Hiroshi A****omi, 69, told the Jiji Press news agency.

The clash comes days after the Japanese government overturned a move by Okinawa's governor to stop work on the US base relocation site.

The proposal to move the Futenma air base, first mooted in 1996, has become the focus of anger among locals, who insist it should be shut and a replacement built elsewhere in Japan or overseas.

Earlier this month, outspoken Okinawa governor Takeshi Onaga revoked approval for work on the base in Japan's southernmost island chain, which Tokyo later reversed.

"I am furious that this construction work has been forced to resume," Onaga said Thursday.

Many Okinawans insist the base should be shut and a replacement built elsewhere in Japan or overseas.

Residents have long complained that the rest of Japan must share the burden of hosting US military facilities, along with accidents and crimes committed by US service members.

Okinawa, which was controlled by the United States for nearly 30 years after World War II, now reluctantly hosts more than half of the 47,000 American military personnel stationed in Japan.

Tokyo and Washington have repeatedly backed the plan, with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe insisting it was "the only solution".

Protesters Dragged Away at US Military Base Demonstration in Japan

Why do we have 47,000 American military personnel stationed in Japan again?
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That is because the tensions in the area are set to intensify.
 
Sherman123 said:
Our Empire is an Empire of ideas.
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You sound like a Communist. Actually that's misleading, as it implies there's some essential difference between your position and that of the Communists.
 
le bouffon said:
It'll be interesting if this plays into debate during the new PM election.
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Possible, but we've been there a long time and provide a crapload of jobs for the locals, plus spend a ton on the local economy. If they tried to get rid of us from Okinawa, it would crater the local economy.
 
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