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Japan urged to ban manga child abuse images

If it were "Speed Racer" instead of child porn, I wouldn't have a problem.

Then you shouldn't have a problem.

What makes something "child porn" is the exploitation / rape of minors.

An entirely fictional character cannot be harmed or exploited. A fictional character has no rights.

In short, I find the existence of such manga no more noxious than the existence of a Justin Bieber album; I want nothing to do with either of them, but there's no reason other people shouldn't be allowed to buy it if they want to.
 
I'd ask to see an example of what we're discussing here but, I don't want those images on my PC. I'll just assume they're child porn.

Otherwise, what's the BFD?

I mean they're drawn images of fictional characters.

If they were just drawing live models then you'd be right, because then it would just be substituting pencil / ink on paper for photography. That would still be child porn.
 
Then you shouldn't have a problem.

What makes something "child porn" is the exploitation / rape of minors.

An entirely fictional character cannot be harmed or exploited. A fictional character has no rights.

In short, I find the existence of such manga no more noxious than the existence of a Justin Bieber album; I want nothing to do with either of them, but there's no reason other people shouldn't be allowed to buy it if they want to.

I've seen the highly sexual manga anime films and images but, not the ones depicting child abuse. [although it would be hard to tell in some cases]

If they turn on a child molester, I could see there being an issue.
 
I'd ask to see an example of what we're discussing here but, I don't want those images on my PC. I'll just assume they're child porn.

Otherwise, what's the BFD?

I believe It is drawings of minors engaged in certain acts, and given the nature of Japan's censorship laws, I also believe that ALL sensitive areas (vagina, penis, etc.) no matter if its on an adult or not must be censored. This is true even for regular porn (videos of two adults on a website).
 
I mean they're drawn images of fictional characters.

If they were just drawing live models then you'd be right, because then it would just be substituting pencil / ink on paper for photography. That would still be child porn.

Most artists use reference to work from, don't assume just because they are Japanese that the artists won't be using reference images to make sure they are anatomically correct.

Anyway on a different matter; seems child abuse in Japan has been very much on the rise since records began in 2000
 
I believe It is drawings of minors engaged in certain acts, and given the nature of Japan's censorship laws, I also believe that ALL sensitive areas (vagina, penis, etc.) no matter if its on an adult or not must be censored. This is true even for regular porn (videos of two adults on a website).

Perhaps assigning age to the participants is the problem for sure.
 
What do you mean?

From some of the anime porn I've seen, they put large breasts and a giant puntangs on an otherwise child-looking figures. There's not much way to tell how old these comic book figures are really suppose to be.
 
From some of the anime porn I've seen, they put large breasts and a giant puntangs on an otherwise child-looking figures. There's not much way to tell how old these comic book figures are really suppose to be.

Ehhhh, there is also that disgusting loli culture though, and many of them dont have big boobs or asses at all. They are also very short and they have babyish facial features (although that extends really to all female anime characters). They are for all practical purposes, a child.
 
I am leaning on the side of not outlawing these drawings. Nobody was harmed, so why ban it? Do we ban things we don't like?
 
Ehhhh, there is also that disgusting loli culture though, and many of them dont have big boobs or asses at all. They are also very short and they have babyish facial features (although that extends really to all female anime characters). They are for all practical purposes, a child.

Except for you know not actually being a child but a fictional character.

Although I assume from previous posts that you get that at least.

Yes this **** is all over the map and it can be creepy and it has wormed its way into a lot of more mainstream game and anime /Manga series.

It's usually the characters that look like children but are supposed to be thousands of years old or shape shifters or something. And then these characters say and do adult things, sometimes for laughs, but other times for actual "Fan service." Not a fan. It's creepy.

But then again, it's sort of just part of that Japanese weirdness and I like it when they come up with something offkilter that isn't creepy - at least not pedophile creepy – but is entirely enjoyable.

If I recall correctly, one of the biggest anime series in Japan right now began as a hentai game. Something comparable wouldn't happen here. Granted if you take American porn and remove the porn what you're left with is something that you can't even fit into the "so bad it's good" category.
 
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Except for you know not actually being a child but a fictional character.

Although I assume from previous posts that you get that at least.

Yes this **** is all over the map and it can be creepy and it has wormed its way into a lot of more mainstream game and anime /Manga series.

It's usually the characters that look like children but are supposed to be thousands of years old or shape shifters or something. And then these characters say and do adult things, sometimes for laughs, but other times for actual "Fan service." Not a fan. It's creepy.

But then again, it's sort of just part of that Japanese weirdness and I like it when they come up with something offkilter that isn't creepy - at least not pedophile creepy – but is entirely enjoyable.

If I recall correctly, one of the biggest anime series in Japan right now began as a hentai game. Something comparable wouldn't happen here. Granted if you take American porn and remove the porn what you're left with is something that you can't even fit into the "so bad it's good" category.

Indeed, creepy, but not illegal.

Also, lol @ American porn

I guess one could say the acting is ****ing horrendous.
 
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