Pakistan outrage after 'Nato attack kills soldiers'

Dittohead not! said:

Is the computer owned in common by every inhabitant of the simple shack?

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Of course and we all do a 3 minute of love everymorning!

Helix said:

we should bring all of our troops home from that region. we've been there ten years. additionally, we can't afford it.

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I agree completely.

One thing Obama has proven is that he really is a relative of Dick Cheney of a like mind.

Wiggen said:

I for one will be happy to keep our dirty money out of the hands of pissant excuses for countries like Pakistan and all of those other third world cesspools. I'm perfectly willing to leave them to their own devices and only smack them down when they assist those trying to kill me.

Your statement about America's borders is ridiculous, but then you know that already, don't you?

I love you folks - you are so delightfully illogical.

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I like how some declare that we want Pakistan to police and kill terrorist networks that endanger us of the USA - insisting they spend their own money to do so too.

joko104 said:

I like how some declare that we want Pakistan to police and kill terrorist networks that endanger us of the USA - insisting they spend their own money to do so too.

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Don't those terrorist networks endanger Pakistan as well?

Wiggen said:

I for one will be happy to keep our dirty money out of the hands of pissant excuses for countries like Pakistan and all of those other third world cesspools. I'm perfectly willing to leave them to their own devices and only smack them down when they assist those trying to kill me.

Your statement about America's borders is ridiculous, but then you know that already, don't you?

I love you folks - you are so delightfully illogical.

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You think it is logical that you attack other people's countries, disregard their sovereignty and expect others to respect yours do you? Rather asking for it, isn't it? Sounds horribly like Hitler you know. He was logical, was he?

Do they? Or does the Pakistani government attacking them lead to a potential civil war - that the government could then lose? Those would seem decisions for Pakistan to make.

There appears a media presumption that the "aid" we have given to Pakistan thereby indebts the Pakistan government to be subordinate to the USA. I have not actually read what the "aid" was/is. I suspect the aid is in 2 forms - 1.) loans for which interest has to be paid and 2.) the retail value of 2nd grade military equipment we sell to them. I seriously doubt it is raw green cash.

There also is the question of which more likely avoids the Nuclear weapons of the Pakistani government falling into militants hands in an overthrow of the government, as is common in that region particularly lately. Candidly, the Pakistani government probably MUST rage against the USA now and then to avoid a mass revolution the government cannot stop from being successful.

There also is a double standard. If the Pakistani military were regularly blowing up buildings in the USA claiming it was because they had strong evidence that anti-Pakistani government militants were hiding in those buildings the USA public would go berserk. It still seems a presumption that 1 American life is more valuable than 1,000 other lives - and that the rest of the world must agree even about their own people.

Obama as the President issuing assasination orders may be politically wise for him by making him seem tough, but it is what most disturbs me about him. How many countries can he inflame to revolution? I recall the Secretary of the Bush administration asking, "are we killing them faster than we are creating them?" Obama seems to have escalated that formula to nationwide revolution in country after country - with the militants winning (even with his blessings and military support.)

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People are primarily driven by emotion, not logic, so there can be contradictions. In how many Muslim Countries as the USA been using our technical military superiority to kill people with total immunity from the air? How many "collateral damage" deaths? If I were a typical impoverished Muslim in that region, it likely I would have 2 VERY strong feelings about the USA. First, I would likely hate the USA. Second, I'd wish I could live here and be one. But, then, probably many poor Americans feel that way about the super rich. They despite the super rich and wish they could be super rich themselves.

Penderyn said:

You think it is logical that you attack other people's countries, disregard their sovereignty and expect others to respect yours do you? Rather asking for it, isn't it? Sounds horribly like Hitler you know. He was logical, was he?

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Ahh, playing the Hitler card. Always the last, desparate effort of those for whom logical debate is unknown.

I'd love to take the time to educate you on the ins and outs of international politics and the role terrorsim and state supported terrorism plays in it, but I don't have two years to spare. Read a book - preferably something by somebody other than some effete Euro-leftist, and get some perspective.

Hitler - a classic!

Wiggen said:

Ahh, playing the Hitler card. Always the last, desparate effort of those for whom logical debate is unknown.

I'd love to take the time to educate you on the ins and outs of international politics and the role terrorsim and state supported terrorism plays in it, but I don't have two years to spare. Read a book - preferably something by somebody other than some effete Euro-leftist, and get some perspective.

Hitler - a classic!

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No - just a natural comparison with the last nasty your political forebears supported. I'm sure I have read a great many more books than you. 'Terrorism' is what other people support, obviously, while those who were killing our people as a result of the trouble in the Six Counties were 'freedom fighters' supported with lots of American money. Do grow up, child! This sort of thing is too important for your adolescent posturing.

I think Don, has the right idea. We cannot simply allow a nuclear state to fail, but we still need to come up with viable alternatives in case the worst happens. A lot of logistical support goes through Russia and Central Asia. However, all combat units still have to go through Pakistan, because Russia doesn't want that. Convincing these countries to allow combat units to pass through is a critical step to making us less reliant on a fractured nuclear state that is not our clear ally.

Penderyn said:

No - just a natural comparison with the last nasty your political forebears supported. I'm sure I have read a great many more books than you. 'Terrorism' is what other people support, obviously, while those who were killing our people as a result of the trouble in the Six Counties were 'freedom fighters' supported with lots of American money. Do grow up, child! This sort of thing is too important for your adolescent posturing.

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Your people? Give me a break. The IRA thugs were simply another version of the scum that currently calls the shots along the Pakistan border. I'm guessing you supported them just as you apparently support the Taleban and their Pakistani puppet masters.

How are things in Londonistan, by the way? Isn't it embarrassing to be a haven for Muslim extremists who'd just as soon slit your throat as look at you?

Tashah said:

Could this Pakistani General Kayani be the same Ashfaq Kayani who was Director of the (Taliban-friendly) ISI from 2004-2007?

You betcha.

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I dont believe a single word that comes from Pakistan until its proven to be true....they dont have a record of honesty

Wiggen said:

Your people? Give me a break. The IRA thugs were simply another version of the scum that currently calls the shots along the Pakistan border. I'm guessing you supported them just as you apparently support the Taleban and their Pakistani puppet masters.

How are things in Londonistan, by the way? Isn't it embarrassing to be a haven for Muslim extremists who'd just as soon slit your throat as look at you?

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You are in a desperate muddle, aren't you? I suppose it happens when you allow racist aggression to replace thinking. Unlike your chums I was against the IRA aggression, which has nothing to do with my Country, and find your weird fantasies about London - a place I detest - evidence only of the power of the drug culture in the US. Do get yourselves a decent Health Serice before you start killing one another seriously.

Pakistan's Frontier Corps might as well be an auxiliary of the Taliban. They permit the Afghan Taliban to operate openly and let Taliban fighters cross the border unmolested to attack coalition troops. My understanding is two border posts fired on the Americans. The Americans lit flares to identify themselves as coalition troops, but when the Pakistanis didn't quit air support was called in. The firing then stopped.

Penderyn said:

You are in a desperate muddle, aren't you? I suppose it happens when you allow racist aggression to replace thinking. Unlike your chums I was against the IRA aggression, which has nothing to do with my Country, and find your weird fantasies about London - a place I detest - evidence only of the power of the drug culture in the US. Do get yourselves a decent Health Serice before you start killing one another seriously.

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I'm not the one supporting terrorist lunatics in Pakistan, as you seem to be. I'm guessing you felt the same way about the IRA. "Your people" - what a frickin' joke!

You really need to get over this unhealthy hatred of the United States. I know there's a lot of jealousy with you as you sit wearing your American-inspired jeans and T shirt, using technology invented by an American - either Gates or Jobs - and communicating via a medium invented by the U.S. military -the Internet. Believe me, I understand that envy and feelings of inadequacy can be very powerful. But you need to put away those silly emotions.

Ahlevah said:

Pakistan's Frontier Corps might as well be an auxiliary of the Taliban. They permit the Afghan Taliban to operate openly and let Taliban fighters cross the border unmolested to attack coalition troops. My understanding is two border posts fired on the Americans. The Americans lit flares to identify themselves as coalition troops, but when the Pakistanis didn't quit air support was called in. The firing then stopped.

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Sssshhh! Don't tell the previous poster! He's got his own little scenario that blames the United States for everything evil in the world, including the Black Death and the Emperor Caligula.
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