Japanese law maker speaks of 911 that Americans' dare not to say - Page 2

Befuddled_Stoner · 01-17-08, 11:56 PM

I've got no delusions that there aren't people in our government capable of such a thing...after all, billions of dollars have shifted hand because of it. But...the prevailing opinion says questioning the official version is crazy and I think that most people would prefer this to not be probed too deeply simply because of the consequences of such a revelation.

I'm not an economist, but I imagine that if there were incontrovertible evidence that our government did it, the inverted sympathy of the world would completely quash confidence in the US and the resulting damage to our economy would be in the order of trillions of dollars. Bye-bye superpower status. All the people eager to pull out this keystone of deception would be rewarded by having the entire arch collapsing on their heads.

buttonpsi · 01-18-08, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

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I did not know that japanese spoke english!

Most of them do actually. In most countries people speak more than one language.

buttonpsi · 01-18-08, 12:39 AM

I think the put-options are a bit suspicious.

And the insurance policy bought by Larry Silverstein close to the event.

NEW YORK JURY TRIAL OPENS ON INSURANCE CLAIMS FOR TWIN TOWERS. | Insurance > Insurance Policies & Claims from AllBusiness.com

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Jury selection started Feb. 4 for the first phase of the trial in U.S. District Court in Manhattan over how much insurers will have to pay New York developer Larry Silverstein for damage incurred to the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centers during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Silverstein has claimed he is entitled to collect $6.6 billion from insurers on grounds therewere two attacks, one on each tower, not just the $3.5 billion his policy limits him to for each "occurrence."

The first phase of the three-part trial focuses on what the insurance policy language was at the time of the attacks, the second phase on whether the attacks were one or two occurrences, and the third phase on the value of the actual loss.

Silverstein Properties hired Willis Group Holdings, a New York-based insurance brokerage firm, to buy its property insurance prior to its July 24, 2001, closing on the $3.2 billion WTC lease.

The brokerage obtained preliminary approval from 23 insurers to provide $3.5 billion in coverage per occurrence, which was defined by the brokerage form as damages attributable to a "series of similar causes."On July 9, 2001, however, Travelers Property Casualty rejected the brokerage form and agreed to provide coverage based on its own form, which did not contain a definition of occurrence.

On July 12, 2001, the brokerage's primary broker, Timothy Boyd, wrote, to the other members of the brokerage: "Unless advised otherwise, I intend to bind as follows: Use Travelers and accept its form."

Silverstein argues the other insurers were aware the brokerage had switched to the Travelers form. Swiss Reinsurance Co. and other insurers argue the Travelers form only applied to Travelers and they had based their coverage on the brokerage form which defined "occurrence."

The insurers hope to persuade the jurors that notes scribbled by Silverstein's top insurance employee, Robert Strachan, show he knew what form was used, understood the definition of "occurrence" and knew WTC was underinsured.

The insurers have evidence showing Strachan faxed a form twice to a government agency on which he had written, "FYI, the 'occurrence' definition," pointing to language limiting the coverage to $3.5 billion per occurrence.

They also have notes showing on Sept. 12 after the attacks Strachan wrote during a conference call, "Underinsured WTC."

Silverstein's attorney, Herbert Wachtell, has argued the notes are irrelevant because the insurers had already agreed to provide coverage.

Joby · 01-18-08, 01:21 AM

I agree. There were several suspicious activities going on.

I think a truly independent investigation should be done, with the authority to look into pretty much anything.

At least, if nothing else, we'll settle this once and for all.

buttonpsi · 01-18-08, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joby

I agree. There were several suspicious activities going on.

I think a truly independent investigation should be done, with the authority to look into pretty much anything.

At least, if nothing else, we'll settle this once and for all.

Hey, let me tell you right now that my father was a sheep, my mother was a sheep, and I am 100% sheep, and my sheep ears and eyes don't hear or see anything that is going on. Don't bother giving me facts or speaking in different languages like pig latin...I only understand sheep.

Maximus Zeebra · 01-18-08, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

I'm not sure how I feel about his comments point for point. But the gist that the USA needs to be investigated regarding the truth about 911 and all that surrounds it, I agree wholeheartedly. Too many things just don't make any sense at all unless somehow it was a staged set of events. And clearly it will take a foreign government or group of governments that "see" that they were screwed in the process and can demand some accountability. Unfortunately, since we and Isreal have all the power in the world between us; I doubt any such government or group could exert enough pressure to ever get to any truth.

I think it is up to the UN security council to force an international investigation of 911. It should be forced by the EU, Russia, China, Japan and the Commonwealth of nations.

Maximus Zeebra · 01-18-08, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelsonic

Damn conspiracy theory crap... the 757 that hit the pentagon... heck, the 757 in general has a fuselage width of 12.6 feet, which is only about 3 meters. The hole is roughly the same size. Also nice job on thier part for using pictures that were deliberately spread to further the "no wreckage" myth.

Nomeone needs a (metaphorical) tasing.

What about the WTC buildings falling down like that and all the lies told by your government after 911; and how your government has misused 911?

Maximus Zeebra · 01-18-08, 03:33 AM

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This is so silly.

I have no interest in debating the truther stuff.

I will say though, if our allies start believing in this crap, we have a big problem.

In light of 911, everything that has happend after; I am pretty sure that most of your allies are thinking the exact same thing...

Maximus Zeebra · 01-18-08, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WI Crippler

Every time I start reading a thread and it has to do with 9/11 conspiracy, my brain shuts off.

I think its a self-defense mechanism. Keeps all the idiocy out. Its like an internal tin foil hat or something.

Its not self defence; its called advanced national/government brainwashing...

Maximus Zeebra · 01-18-08, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by buttonpsi

Most of them do actually. In most countries people speak more than one language.

Except in the UK and the US.... Although more people in the US have a second language(spanish) than people in the UK have a second language.. On average people in the UK speak 1.17 languages. IN Belgium for example the average is just below 3...