Taiwan? ROC? or China? Answer - all the above - Page 3

jfuh · 05-17-08, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

We don't have to guess what would happen. We already know. Its called deterrance. Ask the Russians how it works. Nuclear weapons would make the cost to the Communists of trying to conquer Taiwan to high to contemplate. The result is coexistence, not war.

No that is not even close to what will happen, and clearly shows of your ignorance on the subject matter.

aegyptos · 05-17-08, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

No that is not even close to what will happen, and clearly shows of your ignorance on the subject matter.

So now it is your task to explain to me why the Chinese will not react to nuclear deterrence like every other ethnicity on the earth. Go ahead.

jfuh · 05-18-08, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

So now it is your task to explain to me why the Chinese will not react to nuclear deterrence like every other ethnicity on the earth. Go ahead.

Simple, first off we're not talking about two different countries, we're talking of a unique situation where it is the same nation but not.
Secondly there is no MAD
Thirdly there is no necessity for the ROC to embark on an expensive nuclear journey, it only leads to an escalation of tension, freezing of relations. That is not what anyone wants.
And even if there are nukes on the island it still won't make a damn difference because the island can not sustain itself. Naval blockade and it's game over.

aegyptos · 05-18-08, 06:31 AM

Roc is a separate nation.

The USN wields the whip hand and will not permit the orcs to blockade the ROC.

Nucs make perfect sense for them. The US should expedite them and Japan getting a few nuclear missile subs.

jfuh · 05-18-08, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

Roc is a separate nation.

The USN wields the whip hand and will not permit the orcs to blockade the ROC.

Nucs make perfect sense for them. The US should expedite them and Japan getting a few nuclear missile subs.

That would be changing the status quo, and the US would then not intervene.
Just as the US would not permit the mainland to take over the island by force - hence there is no need whatsoever to escalate the problem anymore.

As I said, the ROC and PRC are in a unique situation where they are the same nation but not.

aegyptos · 05-18-08, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

That would be changing the status quo, and the US would then not intervene.
Just as the US would not permit the mainland to take over the island by force - hence there is no need whatsoever to escalate the problem anymore.

As I said, the ROC and PRC are in a unique situation where they are the same nation but not.

Two nation and the USN owns both of them and will prevent the orcs from doing the million man swim.

ludahai · 05-29-08, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

As I said, the ROC and PRC are in a unique situation where they are the same nation but not.

If you are claiming that "one nation" in more than one state is a unique situation, you know little about the world around you. Korea comes to mind. One nation - two states.

jfuh · 05-29-08, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ludahai

If you are claiming that "one nation" in more than one state is a unique situation, you know little about the world around you. Korea comes to mind. One nation - two states.

Is this the who is more ignorant game? Please then by all means show me any other situation in the world where one of the states of the "one nation" is not represented or disallowed representation in any international forum by the other state.

ludahai · 06-09-08, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

Is this the who is more ignorant game? Please then by all means show me any other situation in the world where one of the states of the "one nation" is not represented or disallowed representation in any international forum by the other state.

Hey - according to your logic, the Taiwanese people don't want representation in the UN anyway.

jfuh · 06-09-08, 10:54 PM

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Hey - according to your logic, the Taiwanese people don't want representation in the UN anyway.

Did I say that? PLz by all means show me where I stated such.
Avoidance of answering the question is noted