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Old 08-11-08, 02:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Russian Bear Unleashed

Lost amidst the pageantry and spectacle of the opening of the Beijing Olympics and the media’s faux shock at the confirmation of John Edwards’ infidelity, Russian military forces invaded the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia Friday.

After a weekend of punishing assaults on the Georgian military that resulted in it’s withdraw from the rebellious province; the injection of Russian forces into the separatist province of Abkhazia; the establishment of a Russian naval blockade of Georgia’s Black Sea coast; the initiation of a coordinated and comprehensive cyber offensive against Georgian government websites that resulted in the seizure and control of several of their servers; and Russia’s rejection of a Georgian ceasefire offer; Moscow appears intent on carving up, if not devouring its former republic in the heart of the Caucuses.

As the international community struggles to develop a consensus on the Russian aggression, its military struck a Georgian Special Forces battalion and air traffic control center near the capital of Tbilisi Monday. Hamstrung by the fact that Russia retains a veto in the United Nation’s Security Council, western options appear increasingly limited as the Russian offensive continues apace.

Launched in response to Russian claims of a Georgian massacre in the breakaway region, the invasion highlights a number of critical realities the United States and its western allies must contend with as well as menacing signals to other states in the region.

-Foremost, a resurgent Russia considers its former frontier republics in the “near abroad” its exclusive sphere of influence and will not lightly tolerate western involvement in the region.

-Further NATO expansion eastward into the Eurasian landmass and the doorstep of the Rodina is both unwelcome and intolerable. With the inclusion of many of its former Warsaw Pact allies in the western alliance, a sense of encirclement and aggressive containment already fills the halls of the Kremlin and feeds the paranoia of the senior military establishment.

Many analysts attribute this as the basis for Russia’s burgeoning alliance with China and the cultivation of what many believe to be an increasingly anti-western orientation in the Shanghi Cooperation Organization.

Accordingly, the invasion is a warning both to NATO and those currently being considered for future membership; such as Ukraine.

Were Georgia a member of NATO today, the Russian invasion would be considered an attack on all members of the alliance that necessitated a collective response. One must ask how much blood Washington, London, Paris, Rome, Berlin and Warsaw are willing to spill to defend Georgian territorial integrity and political independence.

-The invasion and the tentative response highlight the West’s lack of resolve and willpower to confront a resurgent Russia.
With the US preoccupied in Iraq; its European allies struggling to maintain the willpower to assist it in Afghanistan; the growing dependence of Europe on Russian energy exports and a Germany that appears to be drifting eastward politically; a unified and credible Western response seems farfetched at first glance.

This in turn creates doubts among those states geographically and politically caught in the middle of the divide between the Western alliance and the resurgent Bear. Can NATO and the US truly be relied upon to answer the call should the Bear threaten to maul others that have taken the risk of tacking westward?

-Squashing any doubts concerning his role and power after leaving the Russian presidency, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has boldly and brazenly displayed his control over the Russian state in the course of its invasion of its diminutive former republic.

Showing both his contempt for the West’s tepid response and his ultimate intentions for the Georgian government, Putin said, “"Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages. And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds — these leaders must be taken under protection."

“It is a shame that some of our partners are not helping us but, essentially, are hindering us,' Putin added. ’The very scale of this cynicism is astonishing.”

And thus, in the waning months of its term, the Bush administration finds both America’s and the West’s credibility and resolve tested in the face of wanton Russian aggression and contempt. As the clock appears to be winding down towards the fall of Tbilisi, what response can the lame duck muster to save its position on the world stage as well as the hopes and independence of millions of citizens of the former Soviet republics that now cower once again in Moscow’s growing shadow?

Clearly, the Bear is no longer content to rest peacefully in its cave, faithful readers. Stay tuned for further updates as events warrant and Mother Russia whips her upstart children back into line.
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Old 08-11-08, 08:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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...Putin said, “"Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages. And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds — these leaders must be taken under protection."

“It is a shame that some of our partners are not helping us but, essentially, are hindering us,' Putin added. ’The very scale of this cynicism is astonishing.”
Putin's point here, I'm sure made with hidden gleeful irony, unfortunately has merit.

How many conservatives have argued here that one nation (eg the US) has the right to attack and invade another nation (eg Iraq) because it doesn't like the government of the nation, or just for geopolitical reasons? Gysgt and I have argued for pages about this point.

The US Govt has sought to justify its attack on another sovereign nation on the grounds that it didn't like what its government was doing, including specifically that Hussein was killing innocent people.

Now the Russian leader is using that exact same justification. What is our response? You don't have the right to invade another nation just because you don't like what its government is doing?
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Putin's point here, I'm sure made with hidden gleeful irony, unfortunately has merit.

How many conservatives have argued here that one nation (eg the US) has the right to attack and invade another nation (eg Iraq) because it doesn't like the government of the nation, or just for geopolitical reasons? Gysgt and I have argued for pages about this point.

The US Govt has sought to justify its attack on another sovereign nation on the grounds that it didn't like what its government was doing, including specifically that Hussein was killing innocent people.

Now the Russian leader is using that exact same justification. What is our response? You don't have the right to invade another nation just because you don't like what its government is doing?
I used to study the Russians/Soviets relatively closely back in the 80's.

My guess is you're spot on and that's part of the line the Russians are pushing diplomatically back-channel.

They will rather brusquely allude to a belated quid pro quo linking the American toppling of Saddam with Russia's current invasion of Georgia.

If you follow Russian behavior under Putin, they have a tendency to push the boundries up to the tipping or flaring point and then backtrack about half, retaining a significant advantage or objective in the end.

This, however, looks far more serious. Effectively crushing the Georgian military in short order, the Kremlin is looking at this as an exercise in regaining its' military credibility and respect. Remember, they're still smarting from Afghanistan and Chechnya.

Add to this the fact that many Russians feel the US and the West took advantage of her in the 90's and treated her like a drunken whore and you've got some powerful emotional and psychological forces at play here.

Even beyond the issue of respect, at the end of the day the Russians would rather be feared than anything else by their neighbors and the international community. Fear equals respect in the Russian strategic lexicon.

Might I also add that Putin has extreme disdain for what he believes to be Bush's naïveté after the whole "I looked into his soul" comment. Bush made the mistake of believing his personal relationship would lay the foundation for a pro-western resolution when conflicts arose between Russia and the West. Putin, on the other hand, views it all as just business, nothing personal.

Accordingly, if the West looks weak and ineffective while their former republics and neighbors in the near abroad start treading quietly around the Bear's den, then they win game, set and match.

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I Even beyond the issue of respect, at the end of the day the Russians would rather be feared than anything else by their neighbors and the international community. Fear equals respect in the Russian strategic lexicon.
Not just the Russian lexicon. I've seen similar arguments made about US involvement Iraq.

As you point out, Russia, like many nations, feels liek it is entitled to some respect, maybe suffering from the Rodney Dangerfield complex more than most. US policy in the last few years has given them little. The recent posturing by Moscow and action in Georgia seem predictably aimed at correctly their perceived slight.
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Putin's point here, I'm sure made with hidden gleeful irony, unfortunately has merit.

How many conservatives have argued here that one nation (eg the US) has the right to attack and invade another nation (eg Iraq) because it doesn't like the government of the nation, or just for geopolitical reasons? Gysgt and I have argued for pages about this point.

The US Govt has sought to justify its attack on another sovereign nation on the grounds that it didn't like what its government was doing, including specifically that Hussein was killing innocent people.

Now the Russian leader is using that exact same justification. What is our response? You don't have the right to invade another nation just because you don't like what its government is doing?
So russia's argument is:

The US(Nation A) did something illegal, and aggressive against another soverign country(Nation B)

This constitutes russia(Nation C) to do something just as illegal to another country(Nation D)

In the mean time, Nation C still wonders and criticises how Nation A continues to aggress against Nation B, whilst Nation D looks up with puppy eyes toward Nation A for help fend off Nation C.

And Nation B becomes "The Forgotton one" as it is conquered by Nation E's new Nuclear Weapon's(coughENERGYcough) program, but don't worry, its in the name of "peaceful purposes".

WTF?
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So russia's argument is:

The US(Nation A) did something illegal, and aggressive against another soverign country(Nation B)

This constitutes russia(Nation C) to do something just as illegal to another country(Nation D)
The fallacy of the argument would certainly be *my* point. I've argued that no nation has a right to unilaterally attack another because it doesn't like what it's government is doing. Conservatives have argued the opposite, and specifically, I don't recall the Bush adminsitration acknoweldging its attack on Iraq was wrong.

I think Putin's point is "if the rule is that you can attack another country because you don't like their government is doing we can do it too."
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