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Protests against Chinese rule in Tibet have spread to provinces bordering the Himalayan region, as the demonstrations enter their second week. In an escalation of the protests, Tibetans have staged demonstrations in the provinces of Gansu, Qinghai and Sichuan.

China's Ministry of Public Security ordered an increased police presence in these areas on Saturday, a source in the Gansu government told the BBC.

Security was certainly tighter around Lanzhou's North-Western Minorities University, where about 100 Tibetan students staged a protest on Sunday.
BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Tibet anti-China protests spread

This is certainly the golden moment to put pressure on China, the Olympics are getting ever closer and a mass pull out or even threat to hold the games elsewhere could prove really fruitful. Further on in the article however it seems some Tibetans think the Dhalai Llama has organised the protests and some are even hostile which I found very surprising.
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This is certainly the golden moment to put pressure on China, the Olympics are getting ever closer and a mass pull out or even threat to hold the games elsewhere could prove really fruitful. Further on in the article however it seems some Tibetans think the Dhalai Llama has organised the protests and some are even hostile which I found very surprising.
Well at least some people see what a disgrace the beijing olympics are.
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I'm hoping that a few days before the Peking games, the resistance forces the communists to either stage another Tianenman Massacre or back down and permit change. Democracy has to start somewhere. This is the last, best chance the oppressed are going to get.
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Im surprised of the patriotism and number of revolutionaries in the country. I suppose thats what you get with a rising middle class and more exposure to the west. Hopefully they can pull through and ease off the PRC's grasp.
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I'm hoping that a few days before the Peking games, the resistance forces the communists to either stage another Tianenman Massacre or back down and permit change. Democracy has to start somewhere. This is the last, best chance the oppressed are going to get.
This is a rather complicated matter - for starters the Tibetans protesters are not protesting for democracy, they want religious rights, specifically the installation of a theocratic state. Tibetan buddhism is a very different beast from Buddhism in that it believes in theocratic rule - Buddhism is indifferent to politics or governing.

This most recent uprising and violent protest by these Tibetan protesters is quite despicable. These protesters are nothing but thugs, targeting completely innocent bystanders and just beating the crap out of non-ethnic Tibetans.
Now normally I would not trust the propaganda of what is released by Mainland Chinese news agencies with regards to quelling protesters. However this time it is the Tibetan thugs that are releasing propaganda.
They have been responsible for the not only beating up non-ethnic Tibetans but also for the scorching and destruction of schools, banks, markets, houses, and even hospitals (peaceful protests my arse).
Source (sorry this is in Chinese but google does quite a good job of translating it - it must be noted that this report was made by Chinese news reporting in that other version of China called Taiwan).
Source 2 (this is a Chinese news reporting based here in the US - translation)
It has everything to do with China hosting this years Olympics.
Though human rights has never been of any consideration for the communist regime however saving face has always been a biggie. The communist Chinese - to my surprise - had originally met this protest with completely non-violent means with using only police barricades, water canons and tear gas as well as rubber bullets - typical of just about any form of western incursion against protests that get violent or out of hand. However the ethnic Tibetans than began a series of violent acts including Molotov cocktails and so on in injuring innocent bystanders. These violent protests are not limited to only the autonomous region of Tibet but also to throughout China where various other Tibetans have moved for job opportunities picking up and beating random innocent bystanders.

Yet the very image of Dali Lama and many Tibetan Buddhist monks contrasted with the western accusations of Chinese totalitarian communist rule resonates with the west, and is the very reliance that these thugs are relying on to progress their agenda. They want Beijing to send in tanks, they want the red army to start shooting - and honestly was how I thought Beijing would respond immediately.
This is utterly despicable. This has nothing to do with religious freedom or autonomous rule (as the Dali Lama had previously advocated for) - this has everything to do with political rule and is fracking pathetic.The Dalai lama is no buddah or saint. source

But as we see, most sentiment by western nations is that towards the ethnic Tibetans regardless of the fact that it is they who are committing these thug attacks for the purpose of enticing a greater more violent and bloody response. This all in order to shame Beijing and bring pressure on the communist regime threatening the positive image that the Chinese are trying to put forth in preparation for the Olympics.

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I was watching some video taken by Australian tourists and smuggled out of Lhaasa. I've never seen so many thugs in monk's robes. Sort of reminded me of those deceased robe wearing thugs down in Myanmar. Say, Myanmar government is a good friend of the PRC government, isn't it?
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I agree with you because it doesn't make sense that the PRC would start something like this so close to the olympics. When they'd know what the wests reaction would be. They may be communists but that doesn't mean there THAT dumb.

This doesn't mean i don't approve of what is going on in Tibet. These rebels are a great inspiration to the rest of China and the world.
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This doesn't mean i don't approve of what is going on in Tibet. These rebels are a great inspiration to the rest of China and the world.
I'd like to see these protests grow into a full fledged revolt that spreads all over western China. What I like to see come out of it is the down fall and destruction of the PRC.
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I was watching some video taken by Australian tourists and smuggled out of Lhaasa. I've never seen so many thugs in monk's robes. Sort of reminded me of those deceased robe wearing thugs down in Myanmar. Say, Myanmar government is a good friend of the PRC government, isn't it?
I can't comment as I haven't seen the videos. However given the news reports of what I have seen there is still nothing that would lead me to believe that the Tibetans are not enciting violence for the sake of political gains injuring hundreds of innocent bystanders nationwide.
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I agree with you because it doesn't make sense that the PRC would start something like this so close to the olympics. When they'd know what the wests reaction would be. They may be communists but that doesn't mean there THAT dumb.

This doesn't mean i don't approve of what is going on in Tibet. These rebels are a great inspiration to the rest of China and the world.
How can you call violent acts even against completely innocent bystanders in anyway inspirational?
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