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Fear the Walking dead, season two

Absentglare said:
I admit that FTWD is underwhelming so far, but we'll have to see where they go from here.

I thought Travis would have a better grip of the reality of the apocalypse, based on his brutal face-beating of the army guy they tortured, but apparently not. He should have encouraged Chris to do something other than whine and mope. God damn, how stupid is Chris anyway ? Does he realize what Travis did to go find him - why doesn't Travis explain that when Chris whines about his "real" family ? And who gives a **** about that, at this point ?

I'm also kinda wondering why they didn't do something about the marina on the other side. Get some resources or something.

I was also wondering why whoever is following them, and seems to be faster than they are, didn't easily find them.
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The writing so far is atrocious. I mean...just really really really BAD. The story lines are inconsistent. I REALLY hope things pick up but so far this last episode has defined this part of the season well. Dead in the water.
 
VanceMack said:
The writing so far is atrocious. I mean...just really really really BAD. The story lines are inconsistent. I REALLY hope things pick up but so far this last episode has defined this part of the season well. Dead in the water.
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Haha, well i didn't mind it so much.

I think they're trying too hard to set up later events and not doing a good enough job setting up the present. Travis working on the boat was okay, Madison was worried about him- i hope he grabbed his knife.

Nick seemed entertaining, i think he's going to be a good character for them. I think Nick and Strand are the saving grace of the show, but they really need to do something soon with Strand. He's fallen a bit from powerful and mysterious to boring and secretive.

Airplane girl was cheesy in the shorts, but seemed decent enough in the episode- i'm kinda doubting that they'll just abandon her after all that buildup.

And i'm glad Alicia finally did something other than complain.

When Nick walks up to Olivia, i could swear he was holding those antibiotics in his left hand. But they didn't show him handing them to her ? Weird.
 
Absentglare said:
Haha, well i didn't mind it so much.

I think they're trying too hard to set up later events and not doing a good enough job setting up the present. Travis working on the boat was okay, Madison was worried about him- i hope he grabbed his knife.

Nick seemed entertaining, i think he's going to be a good character for them. I think Nick and Strand are the saving grace of the show, but they really need to do something soon with Strand. He's fallen a bit from powerful and mysterious to boring and secretive.

Airplane girl was cheesy in the shorts, but seemed decent enough in the episode- i'm kinda doubting that they'll just abandon her after all that buildup.

And i'm glad Alicia finally did something other than complain.

When Nick walks up to Olivia, i could swear he was holding those antibiotics in his left hand. But they didn't show him handing them to her ? Weird.
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Well I think things are gonna pick up pretty soon, if you see the sneak peek for the next episode, I believe they have arrived near the Mexican border, and Mexico seems to still be intact, as the border patrol is still active.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egYsiGwvV4A
 
TheGoverness said:
Well I think things are gonna pick up pretty soon, if you see the sneak peek for the next episode, I believe they have arrived near the Mexican border, and Mexico seems to still be intact, as the border patrol is still active.
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Yeah, i mean, i think i understand what they're trying to do- develop the characters before the plot gets interesting- but they really need to do a better job of it.

The reverse-immigration thing could be pretty interesting. I'm skeptical that all of Mexico is safe, but it could be that some portions are safe.

I'm also kinda wondering why the US government was so pathetic in response. Didn't they figure out that all people turn ? Why wasn't the public warned ? I mean, that was one of the most disappointing plot holes in the first season, so i'm kinda hoping that they reconcile this somehow.
 
Absentglare said:
Yeah, i mean, i think i understand what they're trying to do- develop the characters before the plot gets interesting- but they really need to do a better job of it.

The reverse-immigration thing could be pretty interesting. I'm skeptical that all of Mexico is safe, but it could be that some portions are safe.

I'm also kinda wondering why the US government was so pathetic in response. Didn't they figure out that all people turn ? Why wasn't the public warned ? I mean, that was one of the most disappointing plot holes in the first season, so i'm kinda hoping that they reconcile this somehow.
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Well, if you remember from Season 1, Dr. Edwin Jenner from the CDC found out that everyone was infected, but then again, that was after the military cordon had been overrun. So it's possible that the government really didn't know that everyone was infected.

I don't think Mexico is 100% safe either, but from what I saw they've got it pretty secure. Looking at the city in the distance they have electricity, so that's a good sign at least. But they may have problems with immigration, because I'd assume that when people hear that Mexico is relatively safe, they'd want to head down there.

And I think FTWD could of done a way better job with this pandemic outbreak.

First off, they didn't really show the downfall of LA like I was hoping to. And I at least wanted the US Military to secure the city and quell the riots, and establish a safe-zone, similar to Atlanta, as the military moved in and made it a place for people to evacuate. I actually wanted to see more of the military take charge, and I wanted to see news broadcasts, refugee centers, etc. etc. But we really didn't get any of that at all, which was something I was really hoping for.

And I think the U.S Government is still operational, I think they just abandoned trying to safe the major cities, like LA and Atlanta (At least the ones they couldn't secure). They may have secured some other cities as their strongholds, and are probably in control of military bases all throughout the country. Maybe the US Government will be something a bit like FEDRA in the Last of Us in the future.
 
Absentglare said:
Haha, well i didn't mind it so much.
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I was just waiting for death-wish-chris to strike again, and he did so true to form. Intentionally ditches the group to seek danger instead of gather precious supplies, and of course nearly dies while nearly getting everyone else killed since they couldn't leave and had to look for his sorry ass. Are we supposed to think that after the other 5 poor choices from Chris, that he is too dumb to learn? And that despite his record, the group refuses to keep an eye on him? The buddy system people, you go in pairs. You go in pairs diving or hiking, and that's 1/10th as dangerous, wtf people. B-movie drama right? Oh, dangerous area? Let's split up!

And why was Travis so scared his mask fell off? Something is stuck in the intake...gee I wonder..let me check...ooh .I see a body....hmmm...OMG ITS THE LIVING DEAD AHHHH! Why was he shocked at that, he literally saw it coming.
 
Last night's episode was pretty good IMO. This show really is picking up.
 
TheGoverness said:
Well I think things are gonna pick up pretty soon, if you see the sneak peek for the next episode, I believe they have arrived near the Mexican border, and Mexico seems to still be intact, as the border patrol is still active.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egYsiGwvV4A
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Looks more Coast Guard to me then Border Patrol.

Anyone who's been to the border fence between Baja California and California (I have) knows that that section of fence sits between two major metropolitan areas each containing in excess of 5 million people. I can't for the life of me see a situation where the border is still functionally active as a political boundary after we've gone to the point of napalming the cities.

They couldn't contain Portland or Vacouver BC but TJ is in line?

Bo-o-ogus
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Looks more Coast Guard to me then Border Patrol.

Anyone who's been to the border fence between Baja California and California (I have) knows that that section of fence sits between two major metropolitan areas each containing in excess of 5 million people. I can't for the life of me see a situation where the border is still functionally active as a political boundary after we've gone to the point of napalming the cities.

They couldn't contain Portland or Vacouver BC but TJ is in line?

Bo-o-ogus
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It probably is the Coast Guard. But I'm sure that the Border Patrol is also still active as I don't believe the U.S-Mexican border would have been sealed off if that wasn't the case.

Honestly, I don't quite understand how Mexico was able to seal off it's borders either. It is a possibility that the Mexican Government is also having significant trouble securing it's borders; maybe it's not as secure as it seems to be. And I wonder how many people are actually
trying to get into Mexico besides Strand and the crew. I also wonder how many countries were able to secure their borders besides Mexico, as they can't be the only ones to do it.

What also intrigues me is how the United States Military was unable to secure any major cities or outposts. You'd think that with their advanced weaponry they be able to, but I guess that's not the case. And even Canada seems to be having significant trouble as well, as Vancouver was also napalmed. But maybe Canada isn't having much trouble up their as the United States, as there isn't much people up their to begin with.

But then again, maybe the US Military has been able to establish and maintain order in some safe-zones, possibly in small pockets or a small portion of the country. I'd suspect that the US Military still has control over the many military bases throughout the country. I know for a fact that the Military still has control over Edwards Air Force Base, as that's where the patients and Bethany Exerner and her crew were intended to be lifted from the Compound in Safe-Zone India. And that probably is the case, as I don't believe that they would have been able to successfully complete carpet bomb LA if they didn't have control over some military bases. And the Military personnel operating the LA Basin Safe-Zones were evacuating to a military bases anyways. Maybe the US Government has decided to abandon the US Mainland altogether, and possibly relocated to an island like Hawaii or something. But I'd assume that most, if not all, major U.S military bases are still operational within the country (at this point).

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
TheGoverness said:
It probably is the Coast Guard. But I'm sure that the Border Patrol is also still active as I don't believe the U.S-Mexican border would have been sealed off if that wasn't the case.

Honestly, I don't quite understand how Mexico was able to seal off it's borders either. It is a possibility that the Mexican Government is also having significant trouble securing it's borders; maybe it's not as secure as it seems to be. And I wonder how many people are actually
trying to get into Mexico besides Strand and the crew. I also wonder how many countries were able to secure their borders besides Mexico, as they can't be the only ones to do it.

What also intrigues me is how the United States Military was unable to secure any major cities or outposts. You'd think that with their advanced weaponry they be able to, but I guess that's not the case. And even Canada seems to be having significant trouble as well, as Vancouver was also napalmed. But maybe Canada isn't having much trouble up their as the United States, as there isn't much people up their to begin with.

But then again, maybe the US Military has been able to establish and maintain order in some safe-zones, possibly in small pockets or a small portion of the country. I'd suspect that the US Military still has control over the many military bases throughout the country. I know for a fact that the Military still has control over Edwards Air Force Base, as that's where the patients and Bethany Exerner and her crew were intended to be lifted from the Compound in Safe-Zone India. And that probably is the case, as I don't believe that they would have been able to successfully complete carpet bomb LA if they didn't have control over some military bases. And the Military personnel operating the LA Basin Safe-Zones were evacuating to a military bases anyways. Maybe the US Government has decided to abandon the US Mainland altogether, and possibly relocated to an island like Hawaii or something. But I'd assume that most, if not all, major U.S military bases are still operational within the country (at this point).

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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What does advanced weaponry have to do with containing a Zombie outbreak? Do you need stealth fighters and anti-tank missiles to contain Zombie's?

No, you need boots on the ground.

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The flotilla is almost certainly Mexican, not USCG.
 
Mark F said:
What does advanced weaponry have to do with containing a Zombie outbreak? Do you need stealth fighters and anti-tank missiles to contain Zombie's?

No, you need boots on the ground.

PS

The flotilla is almost certainly Mexican, not USCG.
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I'd just think that the U.S Military would of had more of a handle on this thing. I mean, they already have planes and jets they can use to drop on the infected. But maybe the US was hit harder than Mexico was.

Boots on the ground can only do so much, especially when in this kind of apocalyptic scenario.

It seems to me that, at least so far, bombing the infected has proven the most effective method in containing the outbreak.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Last night's episode was pretty good IMO. This show really is picking up.
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They finally answered some important questions about Strand.

I wonder if the burn victim and the woman they were towing on the raft will be back at Connor's place.

Frankly, if they leave Alicia, i'm not sure i'd care, but i like Travis. They should keep Travis.
 
TheGoverness said:
I'd just think that the U.S Military would of had more of a handle on this thing. I mean, they already have planes and jets they can use to drop on the infected. But maybe the US was hit harder than Mexico was.

Boots on the ground can only do so much, especially when in this kind of apocalyptic scenario.

It seems to me that, at least so far, bombing the infected has proven the most effective method in containing the outbreak.
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Nothing has been contained.
 
TheGoverness said:
I'd just think that the U.S Military would of had more of a handle on this thing. I mean, they already have planes and jets they can use to drop on the infected. But maybe the US was hit harder than Mexico was.

Boots on the ground can only do so much, especially when in this kind of apocalyptic scenario.

It seems to me that, at least so far, bombing the infected has proven the most effective method in containing the outbreak.
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Seems they would figure out rather quickly that bombing will just spread the problem. Outside the initial blast radius where there are fatalities and not vaporization or total body destruction, you're just making more "living dead" and denying survivors the room and the resources to well, survive.
 
clownboy said:
Seems they would figure out rather quickly that bombing will just spread the problem. Outside the initial blast radius where there are fatalities and not vaporization or total body destruction, you're just making more "living dead" and denying survivors the room and the resources to well, survive.
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I guess your right. It doesn't seem to really do too much, honestly.
 
Absentglare said:
They finally answered some important questions about Strand.

I wonder if the burn victim and the woman they were towing on the raft will be back at Connor's place.

Frankly, if they leave Alicia, i'm not sure i'd care, but i like Travis. They should keep Travis.
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I also hope Alex and burned kid show up next episode. I'll be really ticked off if they don't.
 
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Mark F said:
What does advanced weaponry have to do with containing a Zombie outbreak? Do you need stealth fighters and anti-tank missiles to contain Zombie's?

No, you need boots on the ground.

PS

The flotilla is almost certainly Mexican, not USCG.
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The helicopter is CG.

The coast guard owns many small craft like seen in the preview
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The helicopter is CG.

The coast guard owns many small craft like seen in the preview
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That helicopter was CG? I couldn't tell. And usually I can, since they usually have B-Movie special effects.
 
TheGoverness said:
That helicopter was CG? I couldn't tell. And usually I can, since they usually have B-Movie special effects.
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It looked like a UH-60 variant helo with a racing stripe on it
 
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