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Star Wars: Force Awakens Reviews [W:139]

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I just got invited to the premiere over here so I will be watching it in a few hour's time. After that I'll post my review in this thread. :mrgreen:
 
I will be avoiding this thread until Friday night.
 
I just got invited to the premiere over here so I will be watching it in a few hour's time. After that I'll post my review in this thread. :mrgreen:

Better post a spoiler alert or you'll get death threats. 8)
 
Reviews have put me over the edge....is it Friday yet?????
 
Here we go...

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) - IMDb

PROS:

- Han and Chewie
- Kylo Ren (somewhat)
- Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac)
- cutesy scenes are minimal

CONS:

- Rey too overpowered
- Plot is predictable
- Too many contrivances in the beginning

All in all, its better than most of the other Star Wars films (I would only put Ep. IV and Ep. III above it) but it seems to be more of a prologue than the actual saga, it feels like just the start. But its not a bad start though. Definitely better than average. 7.5/10

-Han Solo died! Nooo! :)()but I can understand the character was too old, Harrison Ford and Leia felt really old in this movie and I can understand the need to move on.

-The character of Kylo Ren is intriguing and he has a lot of potential, I thought he was really powerful in the beginning and then he all of a sudden seemed like a baby at the end. The fact that he is Han and Leia's son makes sense as to why things happened.

-The other bad guys like General Hux and Captain Phasma seemed underused and weren't more than plot devices.

- Rey seems to be good at everything, she can fly the Millennium Falcon just like that and she can repair it too. And she's strong with the Force as well so there seems to be nothing she can't do. I wonder who's child she is? Obi Wan's?

-OK so Luke screwed up when he trained Kylo Ren and the kid ended up destroying the new Jedi Order but why in the hell would he give up when he First Order was rampaging across the galaxy like that? Oh well I guess we will have to find out in the next movie...
 
I just got invited to the premiere over here so I will be watching it in a few hour's time. After that I'll post my review in this thread. :mrgreen:
What if I told you...I already have the movie?
 
Very much enjoyed it. Initial impression was that it's second only to Empire, though with a bit of time I may re-evaluate that to being 3rd behind ANH as well. Definitely better than any of the prequel trilogies imho.

Only parts I really had a significant issue with:

The Star Killer base just felt so contrived and over done since we just go through two death stars in the original trilogy.

Snoke. Who the hell is he? How did he get into power? Where did he come from.

My other nitpicks are all things I'm not TOO worried about, because I have a feeling we'll get more in the coming films that will alter the perception:

Rey's power jump. My guess is this is the whole "force awakening" thing. Likely daughter of Luke, cousin of Kylo. The visions she had upon finding Luke's saber basically jump started her force awareness. It didn't feel bad, just a little weird and under explained, in this movie...but there were enough hints to make it at least plausible story wise and seems that their aiming to expand on it in the next film.

Captain Phasma. Seemed like a cool character that was severely under utilized. However, I have a guess they'll be pulling a bit of a Boba Fett thing where she's going to have a bigger part in a future movie.

I really enjoyed the new characters. The dynamic, especially the bickering, was good and felt closer to the feel of the OT than the prequels ever really did. Han was excellent and slipped right back into the role wonderfully, while at the same time you could sense that everything had really worn on him. BB-8 is INFINITELY better than Jar Jar as the "kid friendly" aspect, while Finn was significantly better as a bit of comic relief. Really enjoyed the character of Poe and the bit he was on screen really hammered home why he's regarded as what he is. Very much enjoy the unique sound and look of Kylo's light saber; makes it feel like it's definitely not an expertly done creation. General Hux, as secondary character, actually worked very well for me. Other than the one BLATANT one I referenced above, I loved a lot of the little nods and parallels to the original trilogy and ANH specifically. Mos was an awesome random new character and slid in wonderfully well. Speaking of, I very much enjoyed what seemed like a lot of practical effects aliens in her watering hole instead of CGI...it was clear they were going for a Mos Isley cantina feel and they did well with it. The fan service for nostalgia was definitely there, yet at the same time it felt like for the most part it had a very real purpose within the narrative.

Really enjoyed it.
 
Very much enjoyed it. Initial impression was that it's second only to Empire, though with a bit of time I may re-evaluate that to being 3rd behind ANH as well. Definitely better than any of the prequel trilogies imho.

Only parts I really had a significant issue with:

The Star Killer base just felt so contrived and over done since we just go through two death stars in the original trilogy.

Snoke. Who the hell is he? How did he get into power? Where did he come from.

My other nitpicks are all things I'm not TOO worried about, because I have a feeling we'll get more in the coming films that will alter the perception:

Rey's power jump. My guess is this is the whole "force awakening" thing. Likely daughter of Luke, cousin of Kylo. The visions she had upon finding Luke's saber basically jump started her force awareness. It didn't feel bad, just a little weird and under explained, in this movie...but there were enough hints to make it at least plausible story wise and seems that their aiming to expand on it in the next film.

Captain Phasma. Seemed like a cool character that was severely under utilized. However, I have a guess they'll be pulling a bit of a Boba Fett thing where she's going to have a bigger part in a future movie.

I really enjoyed the new characters. The dynamic, especially the bickering, was good and felt closer to the feel of the OT than the prequels ever really did. Han was excellent and slipped right back into the role wonderfully, while at the same time you could sense that everything had really worn on him. BB-8 is INFINITELY better than Jar Jar as the "kid friendly" aspect, while Finn was significantly better as a bit of comic relief. Really enjoyed the character of Poe and the bit he was on screen really hammered home why he's regarded as what he is. Very much enjoy the unique sound and look of Kylo's light saber; makes it feel like it's definitely not an expertly done creation. General Hux, as secondary character, actually worked very well for me. Other than the one BLATANT one I referenced above, I loved a lot of the little nods and parallels to the original trilogy and ANH specifically. Mos was an awesome random new character and slid in wonderfully well. Speaking of, I very much enjoyed what seemed like a lot of practical effects aliens in her watering hole instead of CGI...it was clear they were going for a Mos Isley cantina feel and they did well with it. The fan service for nostalgia was definitely there, yet at the same time it felt like for the most part it had a very real purpose within the narrative.

Really enjoyed it.
 
Only parts I really had a significant issue with:

The Star Killer base just felt so contrived and over done since we just go through two death stars in the original trilogy.

Snoke. Who the hell is he? How did he get into power? Where did he come from.

My other nitpicks are all things I'm not TOO worried about, because I have a feeling we'll get more in the coming films that will alter the perception:

Rey's power jump. My guess is this is the whole "force awakening" thing. Likely daughter of Luke, cousin of Kylo. The visions she had upon finding Luke's saber basically jump started her force awareness. It didn't feel bad, just a little weird and under explained, in this movie...but there were enough hints to make it at least plausible story wise and seems that their aiming to expand on it in the next film.

Captain Phasma. Seemed like a cool character that was severely under utilized. However, I have a guess they'll be pulling a bit of a Boba Fett thing where she's going to have a bigger part in a future movie.

You really think Rey is Luke's daughter? But Jedi are supposed to be celibate and he never had a romance of any kind except that kiss with Leia (eew btw). I'm not so sure.

I'm wondering if Snoke is either Palpatine (since his head looked scarred as if he got burned horribly or something which would made sense since Vader threw him down a powershaft) or one of Papatine's apprentices that he trained in secret before he died.

Yeah, and Rey just all of a sudden became really good with the lightsaber even though she never used it before, same with Finn. At least in the original movies Luke had some training at least.

And how silly is being able to see distant planets being destroyed just by looking at the sky? JJ Abrams clearly has no sense of distance in regards to heavenly bodies.
 
Finn didn't seem great with a light saber. Competent, but not outstanding. I imagine as a storm trooper, by the looks of the "Traitor!" guys reaction to him, that the stormtroopers may have at least SOME melee training. He definitely seemed like he was mostly just treading water than really doing very good.

The other thing to take into account is that the blaster shot to the side was clearly hampering Kylo.

I actually appreciated that the light saber fights were a lot more grounded in reality; not a lot of jumps and flips and bouncing all over the place like some of the later prequel fights.
 
Here we go...

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) - IMDb

PROS:

- Han and Chewie
- Kylo Ren (somewhat)
- Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac)
- cutesy scenes are minimal

CONS:

- Rey too overpowered
- Plot is predictable
- Too many contrivances in the beginning

All in all, its better than most of the other Star Wars films (I would only put Ep. IV and Ep. III above it) but it seems to be more of a prologue than the actual saga, it feels like just the start. But its not a bad start though. Definitely better than average. 7.5/10

-Han Solo died! Nooo! :)()but I can understand the character was too old, Harrison Ford and Leia felt really old in this movie and I can understand the need to move on.

-The character of Kylo Ren is intriguing and he has a lot of potential, I thought he was really powerful in the beginning and then he all of a sudden seemed like a baby at the end. The fact that he is Han and Leia's son makes sense as to why things happened.

-The other bad guys like General Hux and Captain Phasma seemed underused and weren't more than plot devices.

- Rey seems to be good at everything, she can fly the Millennium Falcon just like that and she can repair it too. And she's strong with the Force as well so there seems to be nothing she can't do. I wonder who's child she is? Obi Wan's?

-OK so Luke screwed up when he trained Kylo Ren and the kid ended up destroying the new Jedi Order but why in the hell would he give up when he First Order was rampaging across the galaxy like that? Oh well I guess we will have to find out in the next movie...

My sentiments exactly. It's good - the first 45 minutes to an hour absolutely blew me away - but it needs some fine tuning before it's really "there."

The plot became rather clunky and convoluted after they arrived on the forest planet, for example, with way too many things going on at the same time and way too many contrived coincidences driving the story forward. The climax reeled me back in, but the middle portion still needed to be streamlined.

It suffers from Lord of the Rings style "multiple ending-itis" as well. The scene at the end needlessly dragged on and could have easily been saved for the sequel. There were simply better ways they could have handled that.

It also makes some absolutely baffling decisions in terms of longterm story telling and narrative structure.

Seriously, what in the Hell is the point of building up Kylo Ren as being such a bad ass, if they're just going to have Rey mop the floor with his beaten and bloody ass in the third act? She hasn't had a lick of training, and she's already kicking the living **** out of absolutely everyone. What the Hell kind of "hero's journey" does that even leave room for?

I mean... I know the whole "gurl power" thing is all the rage these days, but tone it down a notch, for God's sakes. This chick's power level is just ridiculous for the first movie in a planned trilogy. She's easily pushing "Legolas in the Hobbit Trilogy" ratings of absurd plot-contrived invincibility here. :lol:

There's a reason why Luke lost his first duel with Vader. Even if Vader was defeated by the end of the first movie, he wasn't outright embarrassed like Kylo was in this film. It takes away from the villain as a credible threat for the heroes to struggle against.

Fin, meanwhile, is all but worthless. He's basically just this movie's Jar-Jar Binks (only, you know... actually funny and endearing, rather than insufferable lol).

I also didn't like how they handled the giant doom station. Blowing it up was too predictable. The heroes should have simply crippled it (still causing earthquakes and all the rest), and forced it to hyperjump away, to be saved for a sequel.

For that matter... Did they blow up Couruscant, or what? They never actually used that name (they actually referred to it as the 'Hosni system'), so I'm thinking no. I know Abrams has a bit of a track record for underplaying atrocity (i.e. that whole fiasco with the giant space ship wiping out an entire city in 'Into Darkness' and no one seeming to give a damn, for example), but if they really blew up the capital of the Republic, and everyone just shrugged that off, that'd be absolutely ridiculous.

Overall: 7 out of 10

A good start, but it still needs work. Abram's usual crap also needs to be reigned in a bit.
 
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You really think Rey is Luke's daughter? But Jedi are supposed to be celibate and he never had a romance of any kind except that kiss with Leia (eew btw). I'm not so sure.

I'm wondering if Snoke is either Palpatine (since his head looked scarred as if he got burned horribly or something which would made sense since Vader threw him down a powershaft) or one of Papatine's apprentices that he trained in secret before he died.

Yeah, and Rey just all of a sudden became really good with the lightsaber even though she never used it before, same with Finn. At least in the original movies Luke had some training at least.

And how silly is being able to see distant planets being destroyed just by looking at the sky? JJ Abrams clearly has no sense of distance in regards to heavenly bodies.

Or time, technically, unless that Republic was like within a a few light minutes away... "Hey they blew up the base 20 years ago!"
 
My spoiler filled review, read at your own darned risk, mmmkay?

So, I liked it, from the word GO. Finn and Poe were really well cast, and I liked. Rey... meh, she didn't do it for me. Too angry, too, I don't know. Maybe it's her giant chompers. I really enjoyed all the Han Solo, but the way we meet him, and that whole bit felt.. MEH. Still, it was fun, and even though you knew, KNEW it was coming, it still got me all teary eyed. At least he didn't go out like a bitch, looking at you Mace Windu.

Kaz, HOLY crap, can you say enough good about this character? I don't think so. She was amazing.

Kylo Ren... well, he certianly channeled the angry brat in Annakin, but that's about it.

Special effects were, well, from the puppets giving the movie a "real feel" to the just jaw dropping flight scenes, this movie was a treat. The sounds, the sights, it all felt "right" to me.

I'd put this movie, in the same line with ANH/ESB. It trumped the prequels before the end of the first act.
And yes I'm tired, emotionally drained, going to bed.
 
You really think Rey is Luke's daughter? But Jedi are supposed to be celibate and he never had a romance of any kind except that kiss with Leia (eew btw). I'm not so sure.

It's all but assured, as far as I'm concerned. We just need to know why he abandoned her, and who her mother was.

I'm wondering if Snoke is either Palpatine (since his head looked scarred as if he got burned horribly or something which would made sense since Vader threw him down a powershaft) or one of Papatine's apprentices that he trained in secret before he died.

I'm wondering the same. The interesting thing is that they don't actually appear to be "Sith," per se. They seem to be something else entirely.

They have a lot more emphasis on "order," and less focus on the "always chaotic evil" backstabbing and scheming over power which has been characteristic of the Sith in every other portrayal of them.

And how silly is being able to see distant planets being destroyed just by looking at the sky? JJ Abrams clearly has no sense of distance in regards to heavenly bodies.

In a different solar system, possibly on the other side of the galaxy, no less. :roll:

Yeah... Abrams just kind of fails with regards to science, logic, and sense of scale in general where this kind of thing is concerned. They really need to have someone on staff to reign him in whenever he tries to add this sort of stupidity to the plot.

He just seems to leap for whatever "looks cool" without taking the time to think it through, otherwise.

I actually appreciated that the light saber fights were a lot more grounded in reality; not a lot of jumps and flips and bouncing all over the place like some of the later prequel fights.

Agreed. The choreography here actually struck a nice balance, I thought.

It was faster and less clumsy than the original trilogy, while not looking like a ridiculous "kung-fu on wires" style CGI cartoon either.
 
For that matter, why in the Hell are the good guys called "The Resistance?" The Republic's been restored as the ruling power in the galaxy. The "First Order" basically seem to be a covert insurgent/terrorist organization made up of Imperial leftovers more than anything else.

Shouldn't it really be the other way around? :lol:

It seems like they just didn't want to use "The Rebellion" again. If that was the case, they should have simply called themselves "The Alliance," not "The Resistance."

Also, I'm giving it double to one odds that Han's not dead. He's just hiding under a space dumpster. :mrgreen:
 
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So I think I'm going to run counter to what some have said in this thread thus far....

I actually found this as a refreshing movie where I recognize that it was a rather diverse cast both in terms of leads and in terms of extra, while at the same time I didn't feel smacked over the face with it. There was no point in the film where I felt like I was taken out of the cinema experience as my brain went "oh jesus, they just had to make sure [x] was represented for diversities sake" or such.

Rey worked for me. The engineering savant chick that could take care of herself would've annoyed me if she was a Padme style character. Or if she was a waitress at Maz's. Or something similar. But she was a scrapper on a rather desolate world living as an orphan; both of those things, her technical know how and her scrappiness, made absolute sense for the character. So instead of it feeling like "oh look, they had to make the girl a badass for the sake of social messaging", it actually felt realistic and believable within the story so it just rolled naturally to me. Her skills later on didn't bother me largely, as I explained above, as the scene under Maz's watering hole was the reasoning behind it. She basically got hit with a giant dose of Force Growth Hormones and given a little precognition of sorts.

Finn, as well, didn't strike me as "oh, they were trying to do the black guy". This is likely a testament to his excellent work acting wise from the very onset. It's also likely thanks to the fact that we never really saw Stormtroopers post-Clone army, and thus who knows what the make up is underneath. He was very good in it.

And even with the actors in the background; good diversity without it seeming phoney. This is something star wars has done in various ways well over the years and did well with it's human cast here.

I have no issue with diversity in my movie casts, but I want it to feel natural and like it was simply occurred and wasn't some kind of primary focus or goal (even if it was). They managed this in the movie and it was a joy in my mind.
 
Finn didn't seem great with a light saber. Competent, but not outstanding. I imagine as a storm trooper, by the looks of the "Traitor!" guys reaction to him, that the stormtroopers may have at least SOME melee training. He definitely seemed like he was mostly just treading water than really doing very good.

The other thing to take into account is that the blaster shot to the side was clearly hampering Kylo.

I actually appreciated that the light saber fights were a lot more grounded in reality; not a lot of jumps and flips and bouncing all over the place like some of the later prequel fights.

I guess Kylo ended up turning to the dark side because he failed Luke's lightsaber class? ;)


It's all but assured, as far as I'm concerned. We just need to know why he abandoned her, and who her mother was.

God I hope that isn't the case. Im sick and tired of everyone always being related to each other.

It would be nice if Rey's parents were somebody else- like Obi Wan's or Qui Gon's or maybe even Yoda's... :2razz:
 
God I hope that isn't the case. Im sick and tired of everyone always being related to each other.

It would be nice if Rey's parents were somebody else- like Obi Wan's or Qui Gon's or maybe even Yoda's... :2razz:

Magic stick I have. Tore that ass up I did. Hmmmm.
 
The criticism of how they handled Rey's abilities doesn't work for me. Remember when Luke Skywalker successfully blew up a Death Star the first time he piloted an X-Wing?

It's also hinted she received some Force training as a kid but her memories are gone. Plus, Kylo had been shot by the incredibly OP bow caster, was bleeding out, had just fought Finn (and again injured) and was probably a bit mentally ****ed from killing his father.

On to the movie generally, it's easily better than the prequels and might be better than Jedi if not that that movie is carried by the emotional investment from the previous two movies.

The actors are the best the trilogy have seen thus far. The characters they play are likable to the point I wanted more (Poe specifically). Neither of the CG characters did much for me though (close ups of orange Yoda and Snoke really felt like CG fakery). Given how much practical stuff there was elsewhere, did they need to use computers with these characters?

Kylo is an interesting villain, vacillating between Vader and unhinged Episode 3 Anakin (with better dialogue). I really can't wait to see where they go with this character after some (Sith?) training and presumably being reunited with his entourage.

Action wise, I dunno if it's just because I'm older but I got a bit bored by the dogfights. I used to anticipate them in the OT, but I'm less bowled over by pew pew action these days. However, the lighting and intensity of the saber battle was a real spectacle.

Visuals were lovely - the real locales and the sets were awesome. Everything looks great.

Humour - on point. Highlight gag for was the return of the legendary C-3PO **** block.

BB8. Perfect character for the younglings.

It was generally note perfect as a family movie.

Some cons to talk through:

Not enough world building. I recognise this is a trilogy so I don't need to know everything about what happened to these characters in the past 30 years....but what's up with the First Order, the Resistance and the New Republic? Some basic geopolitics would be nice.

Starkiller base. Not only derivative, but they did not do a good job of selling a threat. Sure, blow up a few planets but how about we feel something about what they destroyed? In ANH, Leia is from Alderaan and Obi-Wan feels the death of all these people. Did anyone really care about all those planets in this film?

They didn't really explain the Force to a new audience did they?

Score was flat. This is one of the most important component of a Star Wars film, even the prequels were elevated by Duel of the Fates. But there's nothing iconic here like Luke's Tatooine theme, Solo and the Princess, the Asteroid Belt or the Emperor's theme.

Speaking of the score and questions raised about Snoke. Apparently his theme is the same or similar to the one when Palpatine is telling the story of Darth Plagueis in Ep. 3. The theory is that Snoke is the same guy - cheater of death, Sith Master of Palpatine and possible the guy who created the Skywalker line with his experiments.

8/10. It achieved me being invested in the sequels. I hope they take some more risks going forward.
 
The criticism of how they handled Rey's abilities doesn't work for me. Remember when Luke Skywalker successfully blew up a Death Star the first time he piloted an X-Wing?

It's also hinted she received some Force training as a kid but her memories are gone. Plus, Kylo had been shot by the incredibly OP bow caster, was bleeding out, had just fought Finn (and again injured) and was probably a bit mentally ****ed from killing his father.

On to the movie generally, it's easily better than the prequels and might be better than Jedi if not that that movie is carried by the emotional investment from the previous two movies.

The actors are the best the trilogy have seen thus far. The characters they play are likable to the point I wanted more (Poe specifically). Neither of the CG characters did much for me though (close ups of orange Yoda and Snoke really felt like CG fakery). Given how much practical stuff there was elsewhere, did they need to use computers with these characters?

Kylo is an interesting villain, vacillating between Vader and unhinged Episode 3 Anakin (with better dialogue). I really can't wait to see where they go with this character after some (Sith?) training and presumably being reunited with his entourage.

Action wise, I dunno if it's just because I'm older but I got a bit bored by the dogfights. I used to anticipate them in the OT, but I'm less bowled over by pew pew action these days. However, the lighting and intensity of the saber battle was a real spectacle.

Visuals were lovely - the real locales and the sets were awesome. Everything looks great.

Humour - on point. Highlight gag for was the return of the legendary C-3PO **** block.

BB8. Perfect character for the younglings.

It was generally note perfect as a family movie.

Some cons to talk through:

Not enough world building. I recognise this is a trilogy so I don't need to know everything about what happened to these characters in the past 30 years....but what's up with the First Order, the Resistance and the New Republic? Some basic geopolitics would be nice.

Starkiller base. Not only derivative, but they did not do a good job of selling a threat. Sure, blow up a few planets but how about we feel something about what they destroyed? In ANH, Leia is from Alderaan and Obi-Wan feels the death of all these people. Did anyone really care about all those planets in this film?

They didn't really explain the Force to a new audience did they?

Score was flat. This is one of the most important component of a Star Wars film, even the prequels were elevated by Duel of the Fates. But there's nothing iconic here like Luke's Tatooine theme, Solo and the Princess, the Asteroid Belt or the Emperor's theme.

Speaking of the score and questions raised about Snoke. Apparently his theme is the same or similar to the one when Palpatine is telling the story of Darth Plagueis in Ep. 3. The theory is that Snoke is the same guy - cheater of death, Sith Master of Palpatine and possible the guy who created the Skywalker line with his experiments.

8/10. It achieved me being invested in the sequels. I hope they take some more risks going forward.

Great point about Kylo & his entourage; brief scene of them in the vision, and I hope to see them again! I think Rey was done great, because her power truly is an awakening. At the beginning of the film, she's overly lucky, which is a dead giveaway of the Force. It actually reminds me of The Eye of the World, the opening act to Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time. The main character Rand has numerous acts of brilliance followed by pure glee & exhaustion, which later is explained as side effects of him using the One Power(i.e. the Force).

Once she handles the Skywalker lightsaber, her latent ability explodes into a Force dream, similar to Luke's experience in the cave. She even has visions of where Luke is on the island in the lake. She is tied to him, possibly by blood, or perhaps Luke has dabbled in a little bit of the create life from the Force debacle that was his father. From this point, when she actually concentrates, it just oozes from her. When she finally is able to mind trick the trooper into letter her go, her face changes ever so slightly, and I just loved that.

I think that Snoke is either Palpetine or Plageous, but there is something really just off about the character. Clearly a force user of the dark, but something is missing for me.
 
Here we go...

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) - IMDb

PROS:

- Han and Chewie
- Kylo Ren (somewhat)
- Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac)
- cutesy scenes are minimal

CONS:

- Rey too overpowered
- Plot is predictable
- Too many contrivances in the beginning

All in all, its better than most of the other Star Wars films (I would only put Ep. IV and Ep. III above it) but it seems to be more of a prologue than the actual saga, it feels like just the start. But its not a bad start though. Definitely better than average. 7.5/10

-Han Solo died! Nooo! :)()but I can understand the character was too old, Harrison Ford and Leia felt really old in this movie and I can understand the need to move on.

-The character of Kylo Ren is intriguing and he has a lot of potential, I thought he was really powerful in the beginning and then he all of a sudden seemed like a baby at the end. The fact that he is Han and Leia's son makes sense as to why things happened.

-The other bad guys like General Hux and Captain Phasma seemed underused and weren't more than plot devices.

- Rey seems to be good at everything, she can fly the Millennium Falcon just like that and she can repair it too. And she's strong with the Force as well so there seems to be nothing she can't do. I wonder who's child she is? Obi Wan's?

-OK so Luke screwed up when he trained Kylo Ren and the kid ended up destroying the new Jedi Order but why in the hell would he give up when he First Order was rampaging across the galaxy like that? Oh well I guess we will have to find out in the next movie...

Sounds like you were cheated then ... just another prelude to more mundane tedious crap coming later.

Just as I thought !!!

:D
 
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