Fried Rice

Hoe come the "World superpower" USA cant even get poor impoverished North Korea to table to talk about nuclear weapons ? You destroy Iraq which has no weapons but are too scared to take on North Korea that DOES have weapons and is your "Axis Of Evil" I guess no oil and didnt try to hurt Bush daddy.

Lucky for world China again uses its DIPLOMATIC power to make North Korea see sense and return to negoitiations. Even though we on doorstep of North Korea and at most risk from these bombs, we dont get all "G I Joe" and go in and kill civilians in name of "Freedom"

USA needs to ask China for more support as seems it has no clue how to act on world stage.

We had Mr Bush press conference from NATO play on our TV last night. I had to check the channel to be sure it wasnt a comedy program. he does sound like idiot.

Fried Rice still laughing

vauge

Umm... last I checked they were spitting in Chinas face as well.

Lets run over people with tanks if they disagree. Yep, very diplomatic. It was not China that got them back at the table. Regardless of what your media said.

The word "freedom" is not the same in China as it is in true free countries.

We are. As you stated, NK is your neighbor and not ours. Therefore, China has more to loose. In case you didn't pay attention, Bush was asking for China and all of the NK neighbors to take control of the situation. Not because we can't, but because China is a world power and should utilize it.

Fried Rice

The current situation is a result of your ridiculous stance on certain countries ie Axis Of Evil. Six Party talks are a direct result of USA inability to solve matters in diplomatic manner. We are sorting out your mess. Really - if NK was a terrorist / evil threat, our famous tanks would have crushed he place in one day. Even though this "threat" is on our border, we seek peaceful and diplomatic solution. We even include Japan our "long time enemy" It is USA who acts first then needs others to sort out the mess. Look at your president grovlling in Europe.

Fried Rice is raising his eyes skyward

vauge

We seek a peaceful solution as well. As does the UN. Which we would have to go through to get any additional sanctions against NK.

You do realize it was the USA that put six parties together in the first place, right? NK didn't choose to talk overnight. There was definatly some excellent dipomacy going on in both our countries. Or do you believe it was only China that endorsed the start of these talks 3 years ago?

Perhaps your media is even more biased than ours.

Fried Rice

Six party talks where a direct result of USA inability to obtain solution by its own methods. We did not even seek talks as saw NK as no threat. It is only because of USA actions that NK is now taking its aggressive stance.

Agree with you on UN - pity your country chose to ignore those sanctions over Iraq. I remember Colon Powell with his Powerpoint presentation of 'evidence'. This was universally scorned but you went in anyway. i wonder how many are dead because of it.

vauge

Equally a pity that you are arguing what you seem to know nothing about.

China has endorsed 11 of the 18 resolutions that were against Sadam. China as well concluded that Sadam was a threat. Well before Powell stepped foot in that chamber to present evidence. But, you guys were involved in the XinJiang (sp?) issue claiming that terrorism was in your own country after 911. While really it was a way of oppressing more people because of thier religion. Had other things to worry about I guess.

Like France - you voted for 1811 and then pulled out at the last minute. If the evidence was insufficent, why did you vote for it?

I wonder how many people are dead because China, France, and Germany didn't help to get it done with fast and swift?

anomaly

Hate to disagree with you, but China is not the country most in danger of these nukes. South korea and Japan are. Actually, only Bush is at fault here. I agree with you, Mr. Rice, that the USA is currently not so great a nation. But we certainly could be, and we are still a great people...we'll right this ship. I can't believe you're mocking the USA for not giving freedom to other people. The USA's foreign policy sucks, but atleast our gov't doesn't kill its own people for disagreeing. Your gov't kills more people each year than all others combined. Now I know that your dictator says what you can watch and hear, but perhaps you should sometime try to see some real news. Don't brag about your country by criticizing another for not showing human rights when your own country is the worst offender in this area. Perhaps your not allowed to criticize your gov't, but stop making China look like 'the good guy' in all of this. The only reason you can talk with Kim Gone Insane is because your country feeds them, and without China, NK ceases to exist.

Fried Rice

Please supply figures to show how we kill so many people. At same time look at how much death has been caused by USA financing and supporting Taliban, Saddam, South American dictators, Saudi Arabia etc etc etc. We acknowledge that in the past we have not given regard to human rights, but how far we move in very short time ! You have 'freedom' for many years yet your streets are not safe, your people are in poverty, your economy is dying and you think to fight first talk later.

vauge

Contrary to popular belief - our economy is skyrocketing. Contrary to popular belief - our poverty level is still higher than most other nations. I think it was in another thread that said the average person that is considered at poverty level has a frig, 2 TV's, a DVD player, computer, and a car.

As far as streets being 100% safe, name a country that is.

As far as fighting first and talking later, again you blatantly ignor the 18 resolutions, the UN, and your own government for agreeing with our position.

gypsy0032

Ummmm, how about Tibet?

I don't think I need to say anything else.