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Thread: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

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    Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    I do not believe gays have a choice. I believe they are born gay.

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    I think it's a combonation of genetics and the enviornment one is exposed to.

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    If homosexuality is genetic, how has the gene carried forward through so many generations?

    If people with blue eyes, dominant and recessive, stop reproducing, in how many generations will blue eyes die out?

    Yes, of course, homosexuals do, sometimes, reproduce -- but is it in enough numbers to carry the gene in such a large number through so many generations?


    IMHO, its a product of environment more than anything else.

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    I think for some, probably more for lesbians than gay men, it is a preference and such individuals can choose to be straight or gay. For this very small group, 'sexual preference' is the way to describe it. This group is most often described as 'bisexual'.

    I think for most, and that means the vast majority, 'sexual preference' is a misnomer because I think these people do not choose. They simply are who they are from birth and they truly have no choice or preference in the matter even if they attempt to be what they are not.
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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    Since other animals engage in homosexuality, I would think folks would be hard pressed to claim it a conscious choice. Well, unless one can show the level of self-awareness in other animals is such that they can make conscious choices.

    Also, and speaking of just humans, now, if it were a choice, it sure isn't a self-serving one considering the level of animosity so many people show. Heck, it can get you killed in the Arab world.

    My attitude is that people are probably born with inclinations towards one extreme (complete heterosexuality) or the other (complete homosexuality), and the environment determines the rest.

    I think the better question should be "why does anybody care?" My attitude is that we should be concerned about actions people undertake that harm one another rather than those they undertake that don't.
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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener
    Since other animals engage in homosexuality, I would think folks would be hard pressed to claim it a conscious choice. Well, unless one can show the level of self-awareness in other animals is such that they can make conscious choices.
    Do they engage in homosexuality to the exclusion of heterosexualtiy?
    That male wolves occasionaly hump another rmale wolf does not denote 'homosexulaity' in the same context as humans.

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by barfolemew
    I do not believe gays have a choice. I believe they are born gay.
    Both of my brothers are gay. One says he was born gay. The other dated women in school but later decided that he was gay.

    Studies on the human brain have shown that there is a difference between male and female brains. The difference is represented by things called follicals. Men have less and larger follicals, women have smaller and more follicals. Gay people have both small and large follicals of varying densities.

    Though it is not a 100% conclusion as to why people are the way they are it is definitely part of the greater sum of human developement.
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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    One of the big reasons so many people don't believe in gay marriage is that they feel being gay is a choice. Thus the term "gay lifestyle". If being homosexual was proven to be something people were born as, perhaps more folks would be accepting of gay marriage. It took a long time for interracial marriage to become legal, and that was a matter of race. People don't "choose" their skin color. Since the gay marriage discussion went over 1,000 posts, I was curious to see what some of the posters thought about this issue.

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by M14 Shooter
    Do they engage in homosexuality to the exclusion of heterosexualtiy?
    Acctually exclusive homosexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom amoung a variety of animals ranging from birds to banabos.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur
    Studies on the human brain have shown that there is a difference between male and female brains. The difference is represented by things called follicals. Men have less and larger follicals, women have smaller and more follicals. Gay people have both small and large follicals of varying densities.
    Very interesting. Do you have anymore information on this?

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    Re: Are gay people born that way or is it a choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon's Nightingale
    I think it's a combination of genetics and the environment one is exposed to.
    I think this is much closer to the truth..

    We have but scratched the surface when it comes to understanding the human psyche - or the brain - knowing what makes a man tick...
    I for one, pity the homosexual, but condemn NO....
    Mans attitudes were not good, were bathed in hatred and fear just a century ago.
    We have taken the first few steps, but still have a long ways to go...

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