Dr_Patrick

So where is the proof that Letterman apologized because of this?

Pot, meet kettle.

By accept it do you mean view it with hyper-partisan blinders? Yeah, no thanks.

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apdst

Yeah! Everyone should have the right to be miserable; have half your **** taken in the divorce; pay alimoney; child support; half your military retirement check go to your ex, for the rest of your life. Damn right!!

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apdst

We can do without the lame personal attacks. yes?

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Ikari

Lot of good that'll do you when they don't vote to support gay marriage. "Sure, I personally think gay marriage is acceptable; but I ain't got the balls to vote that way since I like my comfy job with kick backs and bribe money rolling in; so **** em!"

Nice. First off, I don't think all established demoncrats support gay marriage, I think if they did you'd see more positive rhetoric and bills coming through Congress on that front. I think they like the talking point, sounding like they are ok with gay marriage but not actually doing anything about it. "Look at how sensitive and caring the democrats are...aww, they support gay marriage. I mean, not to the point in which they would author a bill and submit it to Congress or anything; or really come out strongly for the subject in public; but deep down in their hearts, man they love gay marriage."

Hahah, does you a lot of good; huh?

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Zyphlin

In the end I don't think he would've gotten the majority of the House Fraus anyways, and definitely not enough to make up for the amount of base he got from Palin. Suburbanite women living in McMansions tend to be very consious of social trends and what's "popular" and go with that, and Obama...especially down the stretch...was the popular vote. Any that were worrying about "status" or having the correct dinner party conversation peices would've been voted BO in the end anyways.

You're joking right? Cause you're not talking facts at least.

First, you're telling me that every person in the base that came out to vote would've done so for the "anti-obama" or "anti-black guy" reasons...thanks for insinuating we're racists, always fun having that card dealt.

Look at the Polls. No, those people WOULDN'T have been enough as shown by the horrendous polling he was doing the entire time leading up to the conventions and Palin's nomination. Look at the amount of revenue coming into the RNC. You're wrong, the facts simply don't back you up.

he was going to go after the indies? If he went his normal moderate self you think for the average apolitical independent are going to go after kind of akward John McCain over Charismatic Barack Obama when they are basically saying the same thing?

Young Republicans? Funny, I thought the young republicans in this country are still pretty strong about the border, staunch defenders of free speech, and generally aren't for massive government measures against "global warming". Yet Amnesty Bill, McCain/Fiengold, McCain/Lieberman was supposed to be attracting them?

And the strongest "anti-bush" movement were the anti-war libertarians and the only way McCain likely would've been able to get them would be to contradict something he said years earlier in regards to his strategy on Iraq by instead changing tune to "Pull out now", thus making him look like a political fool.

If he "gave Falwell and his ilk", which apparently you think the "conservative base" is apparently the religious and that's it which somehow seems very typical from the type of person its quickly apparent that you are, he would've lost be a landslide instead of a major defeat.

McCain's errors were simple:

1. He apparently made the Palin pick rather last minute. This was idiotic of him and if they were going to make a last second pick then she shouldn't have been it, though she was the CORRECT pick. They just should've done it, privately, a month earlier to give her more than a weeks time to study up and become familiar with the national stage.

2. He couldn't decide what he wanted to be. In the primaries he was Joe Moderate, in the general he then tried to be Joe conservative, he got Palin in there and then tried to be uber conservative, to then suddenly jump into trying and act the moderate. It was bipolar and ruined his credibility with EVERYONE.

3. He didn't immedietely go moderate upon picking Palin. That was the time, if none other, that he needed to start harping greatly on his bipartisan efforts, on his more moderate stances, on his history of being a centrist, etc etc etc. He had the conservative bases vote, and especially the religious rights vote, by putting Palin on the ticket and they wouldn't then torpedo her future endevours by not voting for him despite him being his normal moderate self.

McCain's campaign dropped the ball on this, in numerous ways. Part of the blame is Palin's, but a large part of it that is on her shoulders is shared by the McCain team that thrust her into the position in a short sighted fashion.

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Yep, gotta love the "Change from politics as usual" in this "post-partisan" era.

Dr_Patrick

Again, pot meet kettle.

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Sturmrabe

F**king seriously!

MAKE those f**kers get married and see how long till they want that s*8t repealed!

apdst

Yeah, no kiddin!!!!

That's about as far as my opinion on gay marriage goes, because otherwise I couldn't care less, either way...LOL!!!

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apdst

'Nother linky for ya

Letterman's Palin Joke Costs CBS an Advertiser, Spawns Campaign for His Firing

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Dr_Patrick

From the article:

Again, it was only online advertising and it wasn't even aimed at Letterman's show as they have no advertising on his show. It was aimed at CBS.

Do you have the proof yet that Letterman apologized because of this?

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