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Old 07-06-09, 10:18 AM   #501
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He had to though. A republican cannot get elected without the republican base, any more than a democrat can get elected without the democratic base.
Wrong, all the votes he got we would have got anyway as they were anti-obama/black guy votes... if he's have gave Falwell and his ilk the finger instead of getting on his knees to them... kept going after the indies, the young republicans, and the anti-bush "neocons have been spending worse than liberals without the taxes to pay for it" movement, he might have pulled it off...
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Wrong, all the votes he got we would have got anyway as they were anti-obama/black guy votes... if he's have gave Falwell and his ilk the finger instead of getting on his knees to them... kept going after the indies, the young republicans, and the anti-bush "neocons have been spending worse than librals without the taxes to pay for it" movement, he might have pulled it off...
I can't see it. The republican power base has too much muscle to do without, not just in votes but in terms of fundraising.
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Because his ass was in a crack and he knew it. That's why. It took him a whole week to come up with that lame ass apology. If he had made a mistake, he would have come out the next day and said, "hey, I goofed". But it just didn't go down like that. Did it?
What crack did he have his ass in? He continues to get good ratings. Are you seriously implying that he was scared of the small crowd of people protesting for him being fired outside of his building? I'm no fan of Letterman, but come on. To think that he made the joke on purpose and then later apologized for it just because he was somehow scared is absurd. It was a tasteless joke either way, but the fact that you are still clinging to the idea that he targeted the younger daughter on purpose speaks volumes about your partisan hackery.
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Wrong, all the votes he got we would have got anyway as they were anti-obama/black guy votes... if he's have gave Falwell and his ilk the finger instead of getting on his knees to them... kept going after the indies, the young republicans, and the anti-bush "neocons have been spending worse than librals without the taxes to pay for it" movement, he might have pulled it off...
Exactly, he could have reached out to the libertarian independents and the center-right.

The problem was, McCain really was and is a neocon.
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Re: Palin to resign as Govenor

I like Palin as a person. I think that she's endured some unwarranted attacks on her family.

But you have got to be fooling yourself, if you cannot see the vast chasm she would need to bridge, in order to win a Presidential election, or hell just be competitive in one. I think by resigning as governor, she just widen that chasm by quite a bit.

Meaning that even if she does have core values I could identify with, I wouldn't vote for her if the election were held today. She is simply too inexperienced in high level politics for me to feel comfortable with her in the role of the leader of the free world. For me, experience in governing is important. I am not willing to overlook her inexperience, like most of America did with Barack Obama.
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I can't see it. The republican power base has too much muscle to do without, not just in votes but in terms of fundraising.
fundraising would have been the major factor, but he didn't really do so well anyway did he, so he wouldn't have had much to lose.... though I'm sure he was banking on the opposite happening.
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Exactly, he could have reached out to the libertarian independents and the center-right.

The problem was, McCain really was and is a neocon.
No, I disagree, I do not think he was at all, thats why they pushed him out in '99... but thats why he has to convert and toe the line and to down to whateverbull****name University with Falwell and all that...
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Re: Palin to resign as Govenor

I really resent the "outrage" of Republicans coming under personal attack after they run on platforms as transparently accusatory as "family values".

I think Palin and every other "family values" politician's family are completley fair game, because they have no problem making my family a political target.

So until they're wiling to give that up, **** Sarah Palin, her whore daughter and her retard baby.
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I am not willing to overlook her inexperience, like most of America did with Barack Obama.
And they did for GW Bush, too... have you seen his resume?

I'm sorry, but speaking broken-ass spanish so you can get your garden done right does not count as international political experience...
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fundraising would have been the major factor, but he didn't really do so well anyway did he, so he wouldn't have had much to lose.... though I'm sure he was banking on the opposite happening.
No, I disagree, I do not think he was at all, thats why they pushed him out in '99... but thats why he has to convert and toe the line and to down to whateverbull****name University with Falwell and all that...
yeah that was another issue that made me completely lose respect for McCain. In the Senate he'd stand up to religious zealots, but he kowtowed to them during the campaign.

Things like that really destroyed his credibility as a "maverick".
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I really resent the "outrage" of Republicans coming under personal attack after they run on platforms as transparently accusatory as "family values".

I think Palin and every other "family values" politician's family are completley fair game, because they have no problem making my family a political target.

So until they're wiling to give that up, **** Sarah Palin, her whore daughter and her retard baby.
I doubt Sarah Palin has ever said anything so derogatory about your family.
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