faithful_servant

Was that what they used to level the sites for the pyramids? They could have buried billo up to his ears and then just projected that almost uncannily flat surface out using a water level. It would have had the added benefit of burying billos mouth and muting the whining substantially.

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Egypta

teacher:


To best demonstrate what I mean, let us suppose I build a stepped pyramid consisting of 6 blocks- 3 on bottom, 2 middle, 1 on top. I then decide that it I want to expand it. Will my adding to the structure make it any less sound if I were to:

add 2 blocks to the base for 5.
add 2 blocks to tier 2 for 4
add 2 blocks to tier 3 for 3
build a new tier 4 with 2 blocks
build a new tier 5 with 1 block?
total of 15 blocks now.

Egypta

I am not proposing anything, I merely ask a question to which your response without benefit of as to the why, was.."it's impossible."
It is impossible because we presume that the construction of the whole was determined at the draft? Or,it is impossible to not build a pyramid upon anothr pyramid?

Can a 2nd storey be added to a house? An 8th storey to a building? A wing to a museum? If the answer to these are yes, then why can't a pyramid be enhanced?

Egypta

This statement of yours requires edification for it to hold any truth--you know this to be so why?

I have seen this before, it goes something like this...for the pyramid to be built in 20 years it requires that one stone be set in place every 2.5 minutes. or some such silliness. I am sure I have stated this previously on this forum, that this one stone every X number of minutes requires that all of the workers are concentrating on moving only one stone at a time. Such is a ludicrous position to take unless one has no concept of post grade two mathematics . It is not my intention to demean anyone by that statement, but such a position clearly establishes that one has no concept of the vast acreage of the pyramid complex or the ability to understand that from that day to this, construction is not dependent on all workers working on one particular area at a time.


therefore I say that thisis a statement not backed by fact but repeated only because the original statement seemed sound and was not subject to testing.

teacher

Got it.

In short...piece of cake. Hey, I'm teacher, of the colossal brain, mover of safes for ten years. How many times do I have to say this? This is about moving and stacking blocks with rollers and levers. Get it? Apparently not.

Like I don't have this covered.

Read ALL the words.

My method (twidi) uses scaffolding (if you will), more like a couple of extra rows, external to the pyramid. Take a finished pyramid, (with or without the finished, angled smooth casing stones) and to add you simply build a temporary work platform next to the existing structure to transport, or raise your next set of blocks to the appropriate level. It's in this thread in detail ALLREADY. Read ALL the words.

Now, morons, a word about the speed at which this could be done. My way is only limited by the amount of lanes of block traffic being transported across whatever level. Lanes diminish as the pyramid rises. Duh. You people are not reading and thinking.

Egypta, if man built it, so can I. And this is just the first, simplest method of which I raise blocks. I've a method to get them up without the block stopping forward motion, which, if you've moved safes for a living is the biggest grunt. Once you get that weight moving, you don't wanna stop. Momentum, inertia, use it for you. But you kids aren't there yet. You don't seem to understand the external step idea, let alone the lane system, which is briefly described here...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/403795-post314.html

Do not cross the double yellow lines or you will be flat and will not collect your $200.00.

Nothing new yet, it's all in this thread, I'm not done with the "Pyramids for Dummies" version yet, which seems not to matter because these questions are mostly covered in that version. It appears a "Pyramids for the retarded offspring of Billo" (redundant, I know) version will be required. That, I guess, can only be pulled off in person with hands on repetitive demonstrations. Bring your sleeping mats, I'll give out juice boxes and crackers.

We got us a problem here. Namely you morons. Questions are being asked that have been answered allready. This is a multiple method process. All used together. Try as I might to make this so even Billo after his morning 40oz. can understand it, I seem to fail. Because you don't read ALL the words and THINK. I can only do so much short of filming myself doing this.

Any post I have in this thread with attached drawings you need to print out and stick to your fridge with your "Tomorrow I loose my virginity" magnets between your "steps to grow a Tom Selleck mustache" brochure and your "I heart Tom Cruise" newsletter.

Egypta, I assume your adding to a pyramid question is in reference to the way the Mayans constantly rebuilt on top of old pyramids? Like I said, no problem. If time and materials are not a factor, I can do it alone. A Walrus would help though. The Egyptians knew this and used them exclusively as beasts of burden as they were too stupid to form a union. Turns out the Egyptians would not work for fish, which, of course, are abundant in that neck of the woods.

thenextbesthang

hey teacher; i know this is unrelated to this thread, but any theories on stonehenge?

teacher

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenextbesthang
hey teacher; i know this is unrelated to this thread, but any theories on stonehenge?


What do you think? From the post before yours...


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Originally Posted by teacher
Egypta, if man built it, so can I.


Of course I do. Mindbogling, brand new ideas, simple, and no magic voodoo using Elvis looking aliens involved of course.

But...

It's all still in my head. And it won't be posted here.

Hears the deal. Two fine men, (though not much to look at) whom I refer to as Tweedledum and tweedledumber (I don't reveal who is whom), who are members here and go by the names of cnredd and Deegan, have their own political debate forum.

www.hardcorepolitics.com

Geniuses these boys are, they have agreed to let me have my my my my my own forum there. Yea me. It's called "Pyramids and Physics". I am God of that forum. Kinda like I'm The Warden of The Basement here, only there I have moderator powers. Not to deal with you morons, (I can humiliate, destroy and shame the best of you with a sentence or two) but so I can edit my threads there and what not.

You have to become a member at

www.hardcorepolitics.com

to view my my my my yea me forum. It's free, same deal as here, and some few members here also belong there. The rules are a tad more lenient there, but the punishment more severe. Kinda like The Basement.

The deal is there is I'm going over these various structures one by one in their own threads. I'm doing pyramids here and there, same drawings and all. I'm presently working on my "How to raise an obelisk" thread there. When that is complete, along with the pyramid thread, I'll be moving on to Stonehenge, Easter island, Jupiter Stones, Aztec and Mayan pyramids, maybe some Greek and Roman structures, one by one.

But let's tease Stonehenge a bit, shall we?

Yes.

The standing of the stones will be pretty much like as I am laying out in the "How to raise an Obelisk" thread. No big deal. At least not to me. This will be rocking the scientific community while they try to ignore the simple genius of this which makes all their YEARS of explanation moot and stupid in one small thread.

The thing about my Stonehenge theory I'm oh so fond of is the fact I have come up with a wonderful, simple, use what's at hand, safe, fast and leave no evidence of how it was done way to transport the stones to the Stonehenge site from great5t distances that NO ONE has EVER come close to thinking of. In a way it's similar to my road from the quarry to the pyramid built out of the pyramid blocks themselves but with a killer spin.

Like I said, it won't be posted here. But I don't think vague (head administrator and owner of this site, whom I refer to as HWSOH [he who sits on high]) can much complain, look at the views of this thread. There's plenty o' teacher to go around baby.

Speaking of monkeys, I and Galenrox have our own web site. New and without much content...yet. It's gonna get the best of the best in the end, and will be the starting point for Galen's and my domination of the internet, then all media, and eventually the world.

www.nocapsorspaces.com

If you are wondering about the name, and since you morons lose logic dabates with rocks I'm sure you are, think, not so much anymore, but what used to be the first question out of someone's mouth when you gave then a web address? Are there any capitols or spaces in that address? My sites very names answers the first question. What's fun is people still ask the question after I give them the name. How you people remember how to breath is beyond me.

But go to

www.hardcorepolitics.com

and join you simpletons. If you have a problem with cnredd, then he'll just ban your dumb azz and we'll all have a good laugh.

Traveller

Hello Teacher
Your explanation of how the stones of the great pyramid were moved about was right on. I might be an easy sell, but I buy it. Thanks
However the stones of the pyramid are not all that big.What about the three stones of the " Trilithon " in Lebanon's Baalbek valley, that weigh in at over 1000 tons each.
Your quick response to how the stones were shaped however, left me feeling that you didn't really know. Copper cannot cut or shape granite regardless of how hard or hardened.

teacher

How do?
Please, lowercase "t" for my name, even when starting a sentence. Keeps me humble.

I'm somebody, yea.

Up to 70 tons in the King's chamber they who are called they say.

Are they also known as the Jupiter stones?

What, you want them moved and stacked? $200 a day plus meals, room and beer.
You're gonna have to spring for some labor, rollers and levers too.
I assume you want this done the old fashioned way?
Here's the deal on them. I'll be doing a thread on them at...

www.hardcorepolitics.com

under my my my my my forum "Pyramids and Physics" that you have to join to see. Right now I'm doing pyramids and raising obelisks. Stonehenge will come before the Jupiter stones. Easter Island too.

Haven't looked much at these stones, but they are indeed big. The deal with this stuff is, what is the weight, and how many men can I get around them?

It's just that simple.

Read ALL the words. I said it IS known and I'm not wasting my valuble, impotent time going over what is known. Not much anyway.

Copper for the softer stones, dolomite for the harder. Anyone know what the interior blocks of the pyramid where made of? Limestone? Copper for that. You have a guy beating chisels and a guy sharpening chisels just for him. I read somewhere that about ten strikes or so and change chisels. This was a bit of work you know? Oh yea, they still do it today. Seen them doing it on some PBS show. Now look at all that time I could have been abusing Billo with.

And? I say copper on granite where? I see you're new here. Pardon me a moment...


See all you unwashed masses? Yet another first post directed at me, teacher, of the colossal brain, not you. happens a lot. Gosh it must suck being you and stuck in the dregs of mediocrity.

Now, where was I? Oh yes. I see you are new here. If you wanna play without being abused you need to read ALL the words and NEVER assume ANYTHING from me. You see Traveller, I've YET to found wrong in this. Think you are gonna be the first? See all those views? Tens of thousands more on other sites too. The deal is I've done all the methods of moving heavy stuff myself. I used to move safes among other heavy things. And..well I'm The Warden dammit, one just doesn't catch The Warden wrong, except for TOT when he bagged me mixing up quatrains and Haiku's. So I'm like a gazillion-1.

Your turn.

And hey, welcome to the fray, I'm like this ALL the time, so don't take it personal.

Find a flaw.

Traveller

The king's chamber is surrounded by red granite