faithful_servant

I haven't watched PBS since I got too old to enjoy watching ZOOM. Is the cute blonde still on there?

Buy a truss and keep your personal physical ailments to yourself - TMI.

It's not wise to discount logical solutions just because they don't move safes. No one in thier right mind would use this technique to raise a safe door, but if you're talking about a low tech, easily implemented solution, then this is just about the easiest there is. It's not hard, it just takes manpower, lots of baskets of sand and some water. All of which were readily available.

As a matter of fact, I don't. I'm also 43 and don't have a single wrinkle. Good genes, ya know.

Odd. I thought that you mentioned using your techniques and among your bag of tricks were .... wait for it ..... wedges. That's a word like "proven" or "substantiated".

Essentially, yes. Keeping the weight as close to the point of support vastly lowers the possibility of it breaking.

Just making sure that we're on the same page. Besides some visitors may think that rock doesn't break under it's own and I wouldn't want to leave them in the dark.

Even the egyptians understood how to make a basic hose. Mulitple hose carrying the water to the base could have easily controlled the washout process.


Bury it in sand. Just keep moving it out of the way as needed for movement (water works great for this) and into the areas that need support. Once your obelisk goes over center, you just keep washing away the sand from the front and out from under the base.

I don't have a clue what your method would be.


They don't hate me, they're just bored, teacher.

Sorry, but I just can't stop sending you my ideas. You can ignore me if you'd like, but you can't shut me up.

To rotate a block - tapered rollers. The greater the taper, the sharper the turn. Make the taper steep enough and you can lever the leading end of the blocks down the tapered rollers to speed the turn even more
To make a right turn w/o rotating the block. At the point where you want ot make the turn, you place half sized rollers heading in the new direction and start substituting out half size rollers for the existing ones. This gets your block sitting on top of two sets of rollers at right angles to each other with the rollers for the new direction on the bottom and the rollers for the old direction on the top. Start moving the new direction onto full size rollers. Piece of cake - next question please.

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faithful_servant

What ARE you going on about???

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teacher

Akyron had a point, because he's smarter than you all apparently, that it's not clear what's going on level by level.

First block set on a new level is the far right of left casing stone, then that row of casing stones then the first casing stone on an end, a middle of all blocks, end casing stone, next end casing stone... packing them in as they go snug while there is room to work, set, tighten, set, tighten...

Speed?

Now there's a way to speed this up with more men without getting in each others way.

What is one?

Your turn...

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Top view. Allready explained this.

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teacher

So you push our block tight.


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Lever tilts block, take out rollers, pushes away from next rock leaving gap.


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Keep pressure on block while bashing. Bashing is the trade term. I asked.



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Side and top views of a wooden platform mock up. If with rollers, crib, levers, fulcrums staged I could move a safe up and over by myself in 10 minutes would that have much effect?



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faithful_servant

Improvement on your solution to minimize "bashing":
As you get closer, use smaller rollers. The smaller the rollers, the less gap you have when you remove the last roller. Less gap = less bashing = faster block moving. Get your rollers down to broomstick size at the end and it's only a matter of a broomsticks worth of bashing.

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Egypta

Teacher:

Two things stand out to me, the first is a question, the second something for you to consider.

The question:
You have accounted for 5 additional stones and one block for putting each block in place. I understand that concept of leverage. You account for those times 200 please explain the mathematics behind this number. There were supposedly 207-210 courses so you can’t be accounting for the number required for each course as that presumes: that all workers were concentrating on the placement of one stone at a time, highly unlikely given that the workers had four sides and a base in excess of 202,000 square feet from which to work.

The consideration:
Aside from the lots of stone and lots of sand you stress the Egyptians had at their disposal, you neglect the lots and lots of water. It does not seem a ridiculous idea to utilize the stones themselves as the roadway, this may even actually have some bearing to the varied geological ages of the stone. However, the structures are built on an incline on the west bank of the Nile some 6000feet from the river’s edge. The causeways which each pyramid has, cut into the sandstone and run east from the mortuary temples which are in front of the pyramids. The Nile it was written in the 22nd dynasty, rose to a height which caused the inundation to encompass some structures. Herodutus records the inundation floods the arable land, and the nileometer gives evidence of the waters rising to more than 8 royal cubits or at approximately 21 ins. per cubit-14+ feet. We know from extant texts, eg. the Scorpion Macehead, that as far back as 3,000BC,trenches or channels were dug, and we know from more than one text that pharaohs and viziers bragged about building canals from the Nile to irrigate the fields and provide water. Hence, it should be no stretch to expect that the water overflowed the banks at Giza also, and that given the ingenuity of the Egyptians who were already transporting stone from Aswan and Tura by boat, possibly utilized this very method via the causeways for one a means to transport the stone from the quarry to the site via rafts.

teacher

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Egypta, come to the office.


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teacher

What's wrong with this one?

It's there.

You do it.

Or somebody else?

Feel free to correct others based on my posts.

faithful_servant

Easy there, big guy. I have knack fo rmaking things work better. Give me a piece of equipment and I can show you how to make it work better. SHow me a process and I can find a way to streamline it. My last little endeavor at work entailed a $160 investment in software that will save my employer about $400,000 - $500,000 a year. The last piece of equipment that I planned a redesign for improved it's throughput by 30%, cut out 4 pieces of high maintenance equipment and integrated a modularized system to speed changeover and repair. This is what I do for money. I make other people, process and equipment better than they were. Now here I go and provide the service for which I am paid well to you for free and you simply don't appreciate it. I know how to move lots of things fast, I grew up cutting firewood - 10 cord a day between me and Dad. We were shipping it out in semi-loads to S. Cal. I know how to get things done efficiently, it was ingrained into me from my early childhood. Small improvement done repeatedly equal big gains.

My method is not only easier, but it's also safer ( the block is set down a shorter distance, reducing the possibility of someone losing a toe or seven. Learn something new today, teacher.

BTW - no comments on my block turning ideas? Perpetual negative feedback is bad, teacher. When someone is right, let them know it.

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teacher

Hi.

Friends?
For me.
Like what? Skep told me humo and ineuendo don't translate over text. SoOme like, some not.
And you came all the way here to tell me that.
I go compliment-backhand, not the other way.

How many views?
By now this theory is the dirty little secret, look at that place.
Thanks, improvements?
Perhaps.

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Let's start with you.
How would you turn a block 90 degrees in place?

Where do I?


Road blocks in pyramid.
Water level of intestine.
6" step idea.
Casing stones set as built.
Hanging scafold.
Roller stops.

Not mine? Not original? And more to come.

Like over there, I never claimed to be the first to say rollers and levers were used. They said that.

Starting with moving blocks.

Later I think stuff like this will gel it all together.