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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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Never is speed, productivity, standardization, multi purpose, dual use, using whats at hand because you had to do something then, fill a spot nicely to make a level and plumb surface for you steps going up the OUTSITE of the pyramid. Your cutting these this size any way, why do something different. 2.3million blocks, however many casing stones, one extra standard block, #1, 2' high step, #2, 1.5 step # 3, 1' high step, #4, 6" high step, #5, one inverted casing stone, 200 each. So like, pretending they are big widewhole blocks instead of more manageable smaller blocks per level,

1200 extra blocks to make a 2.3 plus million block pyramid people,
do you hear what I'm saying?
Is thus sinking in? It stays like this all the to the end. Understand this. These steps are on the outside of the pyramid. They are extra. The first level is laid. Casing and all. Next level, Casing and all. If you make the stairs the right size. (Like big at bottom to prevent kick out, see eggheads I came up with a problem you would have never considered and solved it, I'm way ahead of you. 1200 extra blocks to build the pyramid.

1200.

1200.

I think they could dissapear into Cairo and explain why there's no evidence of this. You don't record skimming. You don't bag about your discount bath room counter or fountain bench. You Ph d's just can't figure this stuff like this out. That'swhy you hire two guy to carry your dresser up stairs and I look at it, get a strap and go sherpaing. 1200 blocks wrote off as building material. Pharaoh's worthless lotus head nephew sells them of the to the local mob, cuts em up and sells them cheap and the local crafts man on the take under bid those who won't pay dues, good old boy network 101. Count on greed and opportunists. You don't get this with your run of the mill "look I made some wooden death machine that can pick a block up ten times slower and a gazillion times more dangerous than you and I didn't think of any thing else but this it the way. Figgin thousand and one pyramid building jerks wannabes. You all suck.

Obelisks, lever slowly up on blocks, building level by level under the obelisk, blocks on other side to catch, obelisk fits in that groove to prevent kick out, do you know about kick out and breaking point? Vault door installers do. Have you seen kick out and felt a couple of tons tattering on the breaking point? Feels cool to rock a ton with a pinky. You will never understand that and so you will never accept this. In your city are bank equipment and safe companies you could print his out and show to the workers and ask if his is si, they'll look at you and say "what are you boy, some kind of archaeologist? You could hiehem o show you all these hings.Bu no, you'll sit there sand thin of, I don'what these things arethatcome out of your heads, but we'll make fun of them later. Stupid scientists. A frames, sand chutes.

There's plenty of these blocks at hand remember? At hand, standardized, used to working with, tool all same, leave no evidence of obelisk supports. And that shocks you not even understanding braking point and kick out. You tell me about the relevance of those in standing obelisks.


Some say casing stones from top down. Do you shingle a roof from peak down? You want to slip a 15 ton stone under another, working at the edge with no space, one with paper thin seems? You have to jack the top one up, slip it in, shifting all the ones on top of that, if you could lift that much. I've had to jack up a stack of safe deposit boxes to slip some higher numbered ones on the bottom. That sucks and there is a limit to how much weight you can pick up, not 200 levels of casing stones. That idea is done forever we will not discuss it unless you bring up a way to build from to down. The last image is just what they would have to do last. It was supposed to be a sight. Polished bright. Polish the newest level, raise skafold with new level. You see people the casing stone in the far corner goes first because it's first for one and another block, and why do later, your gonna make a way to this spot for huge stones twice? No dumb azz scientists, you are here with the level and the setting of blacks any way, do it now,andwhen you can get at it from threesafe sides. I can show one block every two minutes, here's one reason no one else can. My way the casing stones set as fast as normal blocks. your way has people a clinging to the side with their backs to the air.

What if one gets away?

Safety, remember?

Carnage follows I tell you. Ramps? I'll get to beating on hose.

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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

First block out of the quarry is the fist block in the road. build a road right to the pyramid. if you have to make a packed earth bed first you do.

Thick, flat, stable, durable, 2 1/2' foot thick road.



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Nice flat road for rollers. Lots and lots of rollers. Lots of guys who's job it is is to keep up with rollers. Maybe get rid of a few guys on a incline by keeping your rollers from rolling away.


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But your rollers have to be able to roll forward.

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The kind of thing these scientists Shirley can understand. Just a little something for you to think about.
You don't get this kind of stuff from just your run of the mill pyramid construction theorist. But you do with me.

Pay attention.

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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

At the mathematically correct point, first block of road goes into pyramid, last block in the road would be about the last block in the pyramid now wouldn't it?

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No more road or evidence of how they got blocks to pyramid because blocks of road are in pyramid.

One of the big questions about this are why is there so little evidence of how they did this.

You have that covered.

That's about it. Nothing left but details. I got those to. And those pesky little King's chamber blocks. You don't get that yet. Gota earn that, by showing me you can think. I don't think you scientists can figure it out.

Back to steps. Block comes to top of steps, it has to roll forward then to the side up more steps. How to turn a block. View from top. Block follows rollers. Bet you didn't know that.

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One way to do a 180 with a block.

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Bonus. How to get a block up on a step with no levers and a little roller underneath.


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You're starting to admit you know nothing about moving weights, right?

But can you understand how important that is to understanding this? It's not rocket science, very simple. And when you get good there's a cadence to this. More so at this place than anywhere I would I would guess. Don't want traffic jams and ripple effect.
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That's about it. Nothing left but details. I got those to. And those pesky little King's chamber blocks. You don't get that yet. Gota earn that, by showing me you can think. I don't think you scientists can figure it out.
Piece of cake. Moving them is just more of the same old, same old. Lots of rollers and lots of manpower. Getting them properly oriented is the puzzle. If you had to lay them down, you'd simply pile up sand on the side that you want it to fall towards and then use wedges to tip it. Once it goes over center and it's weight is on the sand, you start removing the sand from under it. Standing them up is a different animal. Probably the best thing to do would be to build up a hill of sand with the bottom at the location where you want it stood up. At some point, you'll get to a place where the balance is close enough that you can complete the erection through the use of ropes and manpower. You control it's progress by removing the sand under it's base and eventually wedges. Piece 'o cake.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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First block out of the quarry is the fist block in the road. build a road right to the pyramid. if you have to make a packed earth bed first you do.

Thick, flat, stable, durable, 2 1/2' foot thick road.



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Nice flat road for rollers. Lots and lots of rollers. Lots of guys who's job it is is to keep up with rollers. Maybe get rid of a few guys on a incline by keeping your rollers from rolling away.


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But your rollers have to be able to roll forward.

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The kind of thing these scientists Shirley can understand. Just a little something for you to think about.
You don't get this kind of stuff from just your run of the mill pyramid construction theorist. But you do with me.

Pay attention.

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Simpler solution, teach. Offset the pavers with each block having it's lower edge a couple of inches lower than the leading edge of the one before it one before it. It gives you a one way road to move your blocks, you just have to move them a block length at a time. Heave. Ho. Let's go, boys!! And then rest against the lip of the block.
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Piece of cake. Moving them is just more of the same old, same old. Lots of rollers and lots of manpower. Getting them properly oriented is the puzzle. If you had to lay them down, you'd simply pile up sand on the side that you want it to fall towards and then use wedges to tip it. Once it goes over center and it's weight is on the sand, you start removing the sand from under it. Standing them up is a different animal. Probably the best thing to do would be to build up a hill of sand with the bottom at the location where you want it stood up. At some point, you'll get to a place where the balance is close enough that you can complete the erection through the use of ropes and manpower. You control it's progress by removing the sand under it's base and eventually wedges. Piece 'o cake.
Can you control it's slightest movement like that?

Obelisks right?

Complete with ropes? Got 80 tons passing the breaking point, how are you controlling theLowering of the far side?

I did this often with 3-4 ton vault doors remember.

But you're thinking. Stop making new stuff up. Take my techniques and modify for this. You have plenty of Egyptians, sand and blocks around. use them.


Not paying attention. Do I need to show more basic block moving?

Do I need to email a bunch of safe movers to come here and weigh in?

20 safe movers saying "perfect"make thismorecredible? Archaeologists wont get it.

And you didn't use the groove in the bases of all these things.
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Simpler solution, teach. Offset the pavers with each block having it's lower edge a couple of inches lower than the leading edge of the one before it one before it. It gives you a one way road to move your blocks, you just have to move them a block length at a time. Heave. Ho. Let's go, boys!! And then rest against the lip of the block.
Momentum. And if blocks have to go back? Uphill to pyramid from quarry I think.

Listen bro, it's nice you're thinking. But you're wasting time and going where I have to bing you back and start over. Start with these drawings as fact. learn, then use these methods to progress.

Besides cocked rollers, another way to make a block turn?

Block on rollers..wait, draw...



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You're starting to admit you know nothing about moving weights, right

Miss this? You don't know. Face it. I will teach you. Learn. Stop fidgeting.

Taking you block for a walk.

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The importance of placement, distance, height, on and on pertaining to leverage and stress in specific places.Top lever more prone to break.

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Getting big lever under block with two small rollers so you can get big roller under with fewer steps.

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Safety is first. Then speed. 2.3 million blocks. Remove one step...2.3 million steps quicker. I'm pulling way ahead of the other theorists (no, we need a name to collectively call all the Ph d's, engineers, archaeologists, Egyptologists, web site guru's, authors, we'll call them, Lefties. Because they lost their right hand tying to move blocks.) lefties ain't I? No men building ramps. Straight line to pyramid. Casing stone set and done. Many rollers tenders freed up by swivel roller invention. Always on rollers. Same method all the way through. Same tools. Only 1200 extra blocks for building and some of them similar. Whoops. Mistake with my numbers. No big deal. See if you can find it. My block count for steps is low. How much? Why? Wider the road and steps the more blocks set. Level block placement system. I'll go into that more. One set of hanging scaffold used 200 times. Site cleans its self up. Last block and in pyramid and nothing left. Corruption takes away surplus at no expense. Standardization and worker familiarity turns into rote autonomous ever quickening pace. no dead and maimed slowing work. I'm in charge and people work hard for me so I'll notice them.

We are moving now right? Dragging sleds? I'll be getting into abusing EVERY other Theo later. Not one can escape my wrath. All are flawed. Every idea before this is moot.This is not how hey did it, this is...they way I would do it (twiwdi) Learn hat. No more theory or idea or method or hypothesis, or program, twiwdi.

Listen you morons. if my way is the best at every single aspect, considers lack of evidence and time window, I will get to the labor so that's good, every aspect, shoots down other ideas, at what point does twiwdi become other than just another theory. Wouldn't it be fair to say it's the best theory? Leading theory? Lone irrefutable theory.

twiwdi is safest, fastest, covers shortest distance, uses least material, uses least Joules, most standardized, non specialty required, least steps, least wearing on materials and tools, cheapest, most adaptable, interchangeable, adaptable, non menial meaning better skilled workers and more pride in work, I mean, at what point do you have to say "okay, this is it unless something better comes" at this point to argue for other theorizer is to say you want i slower. The Egyptians had been building pyramids for 150 years prior to this. They were good at it. They made things easier for themselves. There were thousands of guys around like me. Thousands of guys like me is no great mystery, riddle, it's guys punching the clock and asking for raises. This is a job site. That is friggin all. Do one thing 2.3 million times.
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Can you control it's slightest movement like that?

Obelisks right?

Complete with ropes? Got 80 tons passing the breaking point, how are you controlling theLowering of the far side?
You said it yourself - lot's of sand. Use the "hydraulic" method. Encase the base of the obelisk and fill up the encasement with sand. As the obelisk goes over center it's resting on the sand. From then it's a simple matter of washing the sand away SLOWY. As the sand is washed away, the obelisk settles into it's position.

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I did this often with 3-4 ton vault doors remember.

But you're thinking. Stop making new stuff up. Take my techniques and modify for this. You have plenty of Egyptians, sand and blocks around. use them.


Not paying attention. Do I need to show more basic block moving?

Do I need to email a bunch of safe movers to come here and weigh in?

20 safe movers saying "perfect"make thismorecredible? Archaeologists wont get it.

And you didn't use the groove in the bases of all these things.
Basic block moving is great, but there are techniques for getting things done that aren't in your bag of tricks. You've missed the whole issue of utilizing sands hydraulic properties. I think that you're probably right on the block moving, but in order to stand up or lay a obelisk sized piece of rock, you're going to have to go beyond blocks and wedges. Rock is a brittle substance when it proportions are long and thin. This requires that you avoid the possibility of "bridging" as much as possible. It will stand up to quite a bit of this, but when invest the time and effort that it took to cut and transport a chunk of rock that size, you do not take chnaces of it breaking at the end.
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You said it yourself - lot's of sand. Use the "hydraulic" method. Encase the base of the obelisk and fill up the encasement with sand. As the obelisk goes over center it's resting on the sand. From then it's a simple matter of washing the sand away SLOWY. As the sand is washed away, the obelisk settles into it's position.
Yea, I know, I saw that NOVA. "Raising the obilisk". I laughed my azz off. It can be done like that. Or it can be done my way. Listen, I just teased the obilisk, I'll go detail later. That'sa big deal o a lot of people, they ain't done it ight or safe yet. And my way is simple. I'd rather someone figure it out. I've enough damn hints. I'll do Stonehenge too. We ain't done moving weights yet, which applies to the obilisk and you don't know that yet. You have no idea.


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You've missed the whole issue of utilizing sands hydraulic properties.
No, I've said nothing about it but bull****.

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I think that you're probably right on the block moving,
Probably? You pobably don't have cold sores.

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but in order to stand up or lay a obelisk sized piece of rock, you're going to have to go beyond blocks and wedges.
Have I used the word wedge other than describing getting a block sitting flat on the ground up? "HAVE"? That's a word like "is" "was" and "prove".

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Rock is a brittle substance when it proportions are long and thin.
So maybe this would be another way to illustate what you are tying to tell me?

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This requires that you avoid the possibility of "bridging" as much as possible. It will stand up to quite a bit of this, but when invest the time and effort that it took to cut and transport a chunk of rock that size, you do not take chnaces of it breaking at the end.
Rock is brittle.

My turn: Water is wet. Thanks. Now I'll go look for a job in the rock business.

teaching me properties of rock.


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which is the same principle as breaking an obelisk like I know you think I would go about it.

So you can control the rate at which sand flows from the font back left or right side of the base?

You will have to have some means of supporting the thing from falling as you do the sand thing anyway, rope?

Descibe what you think my obelisk raising method is and where you got hat idea from.

Then when it dawns on you you're putting words in my mouth because you can't adapt to class here go read the whole thread, then again, then the third time make notes on what you don't get from where and post and I'll abuse you and ignore it anyway because IT'S ALREADY COVERED.

Except fr the kink's chamber blocks. Which will be simile to moving obelisks. That you should have realized I haven'gone over yet and waited and now this time wasted on you could have been used to explain the whole thing and now the rest of the class hates you.

Shut up and pay attention or I'll start ripping on you ideas. They suck. Stop sending me them. Is this out there somewhere? Yes. Did you see where I say everything, idea, book, TV and radio show, article, paper, documentary, is all wrong I am right?

Then you post one of them. I tell you no,sit down. You come back tell me I don't understand.

Last chance.

Answer this..


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