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Old 08-12-06, 11:42 AM   #221
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

7500 views my train wreck over there now has. Slowing down. Can't have that. I'm aboutto post this. That ought to speed it back up. They've been lying and playing at entry level pysch 101. Not bright. Despite thisbeing within the rules it may be the end of me.

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hat's about as mellow as I can be. Is that bearable? Tonight was a test of my limits, if that wont fly, if that is to

"controvesial" or "abrasive" I'm gonna go out large.

Byrd, your messing with me right? You seem like a intelligent guy. Where did all that come from? Never infer anything from

me. Go by what I said. The next step is me copy/pasting my words next to your statements and poving they are made without any

grounds. I do enjoy the constant wailing and gnashing of teeth over my style. One of you has joined the other place and has a

splendid sence of humor. Too bad you all will never see it. Thank you Shane for pointing out that I only said what I said. As

it was me that said it and my actual words are rightfuly overlooked because of my pleasant humble demeanor which invalidates

anything I say, maybe you saying it points out that I said more than "I'm smarter than you and talk more ****" (now you have

to tell me I can't refer to that statement at all) but I wont hold my breath.

Byrd. That was pathetic. I'm calling you out. Where do I say the blocks were dragged? Copy/paste it, renig, or I'll just

prove I didn't and make a big deal about you not being thourogh. Have I said the road was placed on sand? Dude, from now on,

pretend this. I'm not an idiot, I understand simple things. Little hint? Someone has been in your fridge poking holes in your

hot dogs with a fork cause bro, I never seen them leak so. You get so much of my statements wrong or just come up with stuff

I didn't say, I think you have lost the ability to reason because of your hate for me. Want me to put words in your mouth?

And Byrd, I understand these things are not documented in your manual. From now on, petend my ideas are only a fanciful romp

through my colossal brain pretending I'm Pharoh and this is what I would do. Maybe even give it a name like twiwdi or

something like that. No references to my ideas does not prove they weren't used or feasible. Now here's what I want from you.


you will have to supply proof that the ancient Egyptians polished the stones so smoothly that you could easily slide another

stone over it.

That's your words copy/pasted here. Instead of trying to smear and discredit me with lies and make believe, extend to me the

same courtesy and copy/paste my words saying where I say the stones were dragged. You spent much time talking about that. If

I were you, I'd just claim some freak computer glitch that linked you to a room of a million monkeys at a million typewriters

and chance linked you with the one who by chance typed "drag the stones" and swapped his text with the text of my post. Yea

I'm on you and I think within the rules. See how I work? I ain't dropping this unless you tell me to or else...you want to

wear on me, I gave the place. So much of what I responded to tonight would not have been nessesary if you (some) people had

just read. To those of you that want me to get on with it, I wont because I have to adress these things first. If you want to

see drawings suggest to these people to read all the words. Again Shane, my ideas that you listed saying they were the only

things I claimed shows that I can write in understandable English, unless of course some freak computer glitch linked you to

my evil twin in a alternate universe where Archimedes was born retarded and the caveman that discovered round things roll got

ate by a dinosaur. You people saying I invented levers and rollers...well? What do you have to say for yourselves? Either

it's a genuine error and adult men of principle and character would check, see, and say my bad and then we get on with life

and I post pictures or you are friggin evil can't comprehand that my words are there not far away and can be accessed to show

the truth. If the road, water level, 6" steps is not original then show me and I will admit my idea was not original and say

"my bad, I didn't know." I'm a man of character. I don't lie and I have a damn good reason not to. If you think I'm lying

don't hint and imply it, be a man, come out and say it. We'll settle it one way or another and move on. The going through

tissues joke in responce to a joke made at me first is there so you can have an excuse to ban me and be able to point to it

and pretend that is the real reason. Gift. 500 views on the pyramid thread at that other place. Up from 3300 views spread out

over months. Lots of you went there and looked. No relpies there or here. Why is that? Because you saw and now know I'm the

guy that solved this. Some strange things for a site of serious scholars. Human nature.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

And the rest of it. It's me vs. half a huge wab site.

I like those odds.




Human nature and what a revelation of this magnitude brings out. I say it over there. You substantiate my thoughts.

My little question about fitting a block and leveling it. If I were you and knew the answer I'd walk on water to answer just

to shut me up. Since I didn't see any takers here a gift. I believe I asked how to lowertheleft rear corner. Short of pulling

it back out and hacking some stone off you can't. Best you can do is raise the other three corners which would make those

sides higher than the blocks next to them. Again. Something if you haters of me cought would walk through fire to show me up.

The question stands. Only instead of lower that corner raise it. No more tricks, let's hear it. I know, I've done it many

times. One of the things that gives me an edge on this. You don't know. Normaly I'd tell you. But the way I'm treated

here...Next question. A 3x3x3 block. You have two rollers. I want the block to turn right as it goes forward. Place the

rollers and explain. This is block moving stuff. With the pyramid comprised of 2.3 million blocks the turnip truck is fading

into the distance or this is very relevant and important. The bury the pyramid with sand would work. Htow much work? more

material than the big ramp which is more material than the pyramid also. In that case why bury it? Save yourself a lot of

work and use the ramp. My contention is that my way is more efficiant. these guys had 150 years of building up to this. I

think there was a couple of thousand guys with my skills. How does one explain to someone who does know moving heavy that

he's wrrong when he tells me I'm wrong or it can't be done when I've done it? Put yourself in my place. How would you feel?

What would you do? Would you bother? Would you rant and insult? Know what's neat? Take a big way heavy safe on a smooth

floor. Put onelittle roller under i in the middle of it at i's exac ce3nter of mass. nowrocki back and forth with one finger.

Know how that feels? Couple of tons moved with one finger. Now, go ahead and tell me it can't be done or I'm lying. I won't

say jack. Until I write my human nature report. Over there, with insults and humor. That water one was a joke right? As the

specific gravity is one I Think I remember from 8th grade, would you have to deduct that from the specific gravity of the

stonet o comeup with the immearsed weight? So now you have to tell me the S.G. and the resulting weight and I'll ask you how

to move that still very heavy weight only now under water. I am not a stupid man. Last I.Q. test I took I did drunk and

scored a 151. Consider that as you try to play me. I'm smart enough that no matter how smart you are you wont fool me. No

comment on my rant about what I learned about some by their reaction to my attitude? Normal. Expected. If in erorr it would

have been torn to peices. Wonder how many ignore lists I'm on. The guy that asked what other big things will I solve? You

really want to know? Lots. I've an idea for the 4th of July that is the greatest light show short of the northern lights.

Hasn't been shown to be wrong. It's simple, cheap, original, dazzling, and mine mine mine. Where do I post it? I'll tell it.

But only here on this thread but it has nohing to do with pyramids. The heavy blocks. I addressed this I think here. I got,

no problem. But this I havent posted ovre here because I want to see if they can take my methods, apply to the blocks, and

solve it themselves. It simple. The trick is schedualing, forethought and planing. I've some points I made to some of you

that were not addressed. Busy? I'm beneath you. My attitude does not merit reply? I was forced to learn how to type by the

Army. I can type fast. i can keep this up longer than you can stand reading it. Watch ytour words you use. As you have seen

I'll use them against you. Many got a pass tonight. All I did reply to did not get as much as I could have given. I think I

was mild and wihin the bounds set for me. Very un Wardenish.


These litttle lecture you give on how I should act and that if I want feed back other than strife is another example of not

thinking before you write. Seeems to me there are many posts of questions and comments. The views don't indicate this is not

noticed. that little home page score board is neat. Never seen that before. And I've been on it just as fast as possible I

think. The facts, the numbers, don't back up your advice and makes me question if that advise is wise to follow. new guy. I

hear that. if there is not some sort of probationary period, some prerequisite dues to pay, some ATS hazing ritual I must go

through before my words are able to be considered,let me know. Way I see it the new guy came in bringing it large, backing up

his boasts, and that is unnerving, unpalitable, and just plain not how things are supposed to work. It makes some of you

friggin crazy. Deal with it. Someone has to have the top numbers, unless every one ties. If not me then the next guy. But

it's me. And will continue to be so until I'm banned or choose not to be. If I faked stupidity and mediocrity and you found

out would I have your respect? Or disdain? Hate me, love me, ignore me,whatever, but the crap I answered tonight was pitiful,

like you were phoning it in, and definitly not the caliber of the intelligent knowledgeable serious thinkers I keep getting

told are here. Now you'll say "well that's what you get with your attitude". Well not every one was so. I think

2manyquestions hit this point right on the head. Read her and disagree if you can. So what's it gonna be? You gonna ban me?

Stop the abuse (it would be juts fine if based on fact)? Continue on like this? Or step it way up and Begin with the dreaded

phrasw "Class In Session". I've got a lot of material on this that is dead serious. Wont get to it if every time I come here

I see this stuff.

Those that want to move on: Want ot hear how to load and unload barges? How the casing stone dilema of attatching ramps and

such goes away, placed from top to bottom or bottom to top, how each level's stones were placed in what order and why,

thoughts on mudane things like lunch and using the bathroom, the worst job on the whole job site? Why I think I can meet the

one block set every two minutes seal? Help me with some logistics and math points? See if this is what I claim and help get

it out there? I'm doing this for free. I want to destroy the greedy snake oil sales men who use this for profit. I want only

to get credit for the idea, and my kids to think I'm even cooler than I am now. And how sweet of a pick up line would

claiming to be the guy that solved a 4500 puzzle be? Then do something about your buds. Cause this thing will stay a train

wreck if it stays like this.


I was posting ideas with some attitude sure. But tell me honestly. Did that affect your ability to think and reason?


Gotta go. Being The Warden is no make work posistion. I've some people to abuse. But they like it.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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why try and ridicule a man who has put forth a theory based on what he has learned but has no means of testing?
False. He DOES HAVE all means of testing it, but he is just posting long, extremly looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooong,
unreadable whinings, instead of going ahead and building...
he just has some people to abuse, - as he stated above.
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False. He DOES HAVE all means of testing it, but he is just posting long, extremly looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooong,
unreadable whinings, instead of going ahead and building...
he just has some people to abuse, - as he stated above.
Not test. Do. Show. As in post 180.


Would that be good enough? In the Benny Hill format, music, break to chase a girl and all. Also have a movie length documentary wrote that is way funny. But that's no the point. I'm trying to present this in text and drawings with my charming personality. So far it's gone as I expected. Either ignored, theory dismissed because of my attitude, desperate bull**** rebukes of no sense, denial, and a few folks of humor that see it for what it is. This magnitude of a discovery only come around every...oh...4500 years. To use it to show the nature of people when faced with excellence, served with my style, is a once in a century opportunity. I'm saving this stuff. Scholars, scientists, experts, organizations, tracking numbers of views, showing lies and envy, pitiful mind games, large groups of people in conspiracy, what a blast. Then wrote up by me and served to the world. Earlier I read a thread where they were all saying there is no way back then to place the pyramid. I told them to go read my posted on that site explanations how to find NSEW, level, plumb, square, distance, with a string,a stick, the sun, and a water level. Total denial. I copy pasted lies and deceit. I compared my sin of bragging to their sin of false witness. I pounded their ideas, I asked questions they can't answer that need to be known to move weight, it's unfriggin real how much self abasement they are going through to keep the status quo. Ever seen a TV show where they try to build a mock up of parts of stonehenge? I wrote the guy, and archaeologist, who led it, they did so many things wrong, he wrote back saying tell more and whining about my style, I sent him his link and watched as he showed up, read, left, and hid. Emailed him again. No answer. I's so friggin simple. Rollers, levers. Found another guy who claimed to lever a block up feet by stacking crib under as it rose and building stack for the levers as it grew. Had a drawing of it. I wrote him and said "we both know you didn't do that" then explained in detail why it wouldn't work and the one time I tried it. He wrote back and said I need to read more of his site. I did. Even more errors. Haven't heard back from him. This is like watching children hiding and lying about their Halloween candy. Only these are adults, PH D's, respected authors and such. lying their azzes off, and I've got it all.

Long enough? Pay his no mind, just my notes on the project.
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1) By testing you mean which part?...

2) How much evidence is there of the building of this thing?
3) Was there trees back then?
4) Most blocks were from a nearby quarry I say was 500 yards away and the big blocks and obelisks were from 500 miles up the Nile, right?
5) Imhotep was the super?
6) Is there evidence indicating that the triangle with a string was the only way they found level?
7) What proof is there that the trench filled with water was the means to level the base of the pyramid?
8) Heard of the solar telescope theory?
9) Can you hook me up with Dr. Kali Hawwas? .../
1) By testing I mean that you do not have the land or stone by which to build a pyramid mimicking either of the Giza plateau pyramids.

2) If you mean plans and the mechanics behind the construction, there is none. The (loosely defined) architectural plans in evidence are long after the building of the Giza pyramids such as those found in tombs the Valley of the Kings and the tomb of Chief Steward to Hatshepsut, Senenmut. Graphics exist but they do not detail the erection of any buildings.

3)Yes, there were trees in ancient Egypt, such as the venerated sycamore and persea, the willow and the acacia. However, construction and farm implements as well as arms relied on the importation of trees. There was ebony from Punt, as detailed in Hatshepsut’s mortuary complex, and imports of cedar from Lebanon as detailed in various letters of correspondence between the pharaohs and foreign rulers. Since wooden beams are found in the pyramids, as were they found as evidence of temple roofs; there were huts, wooden barques, the naos or Holy of Holies, chariots of wood, sarcophagi, chests, and furniture all of which is evidence of the large scale use of wood.

4)There is a quarry just south of Khufu’s pyramid where most of the stones could have been excavated. The limestone casing was brought from the Tura quarries across the Nile, the 400 lb internal granite stones could have been from numerous quarries along the Nile. In the case of Djoser’s red pyramid for example, you are correct the stone was transported from Aswan. As was Hatshepsut’s obelisks, one of which is 91ft and 323 tonnes, and which according to an inscription in her temple took 7 months to ferry just a hop skip and a jump to Thebes, whereas, it is as you say, a 500-560 mile journey to Giza.

An Ahmose I stela depicts oxen hauling stone blocks on sleds from the quarries; Hathsepsut’s mortuary complex depicts the transportation of her obelisks via barge. Likewise the tomb of Djehutyheteo c2200-2000BCE depicts a statue being transported on a sled and hauled by men. This is not to say that anyone should presume the hauling via sled was done from quarry to project site.

5) Imhotep, c2700BCE, was the architect credited with constructing the first stone pyramid-Djoser’s step pyramid, and should not be confused with Amenhotep son of Hapu, another master builder (Colossi of Memnon), or Senenmut who likely gets the credit for the numerous monuments built by Thutmose II, and Hatshepsut including her obelisks. Two completely different eras with about 1200 years in between.

6) I suppose a plumb line can be used to level of a pyramidal block of obelisk and such, however it is believed that they incorporated another means of leveling stone—gouge channels into the stone, fill it with water and mark the level. Possibly the red lines found on some inner pyramid stones may be evidence of this. But these were a people whose microlithic tools, c11,000BC already included small flint blades with wooden handles. Since by the time of the pyramids they were using the adz, bronze chisels, spikes, wooden mallets, stone hammers, saws, grinding stones and dolorite tools, along with the square, a measuring rod (straightline) and a longer version made from reeds in what you might call their version of a chain, I doubt it was their only means of leveling.

Evidence of construction is limited to the workmens’ towns near the tombs and pyramid complexes such as Tjanin and Gerget, the settlements pertaining to Khefre and Khufu respectively. Various papyri, e.g. the Abusir Papyri, and potsherds recording the memoirs of workmen and their trades along with tools have been found. Graphics are limited to craftsmen at work forging their product such as the metal workers on the tomb of Nainkhkhnum and Knumhotep.

7) There is no proof that I am aware that a trench was used to level the base of the pyramid.

8) I have not heard of the solar telescope theory.

9) No, I cannot hook you up with Dr Zawi Hawass.
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Yes, there were trees in ancient Egypt,
Back up. She posted at me first. Tashah does not need to know about this. is wonderful angel is the ying to my yang. I can not stop being me. I say stuff and people look at me like my heads on fire. I need someone to say the stuff I say but sounds smart when doing it.

It's pretty obvious I'm never gonna get any where with this theory, perfect as it is, because of the way I am. I roll in and say "here's my theory, find a flaw, you can't, your time is better spent getting me a beer." Now they've allready been here and seen it so they know it's solid, but the envious petulant human nature overides decency and they blather that my way is wrong and then start making bull**** up. Which I call them on so they go get pals who help them lie because his bud promised him he could bugger his cat if he helped him out. So we are all standing around, trying not to make eye contact, them pretendding everyone does not know the truth and me trying not to end up on assault charges, and the world suffers for the not knowing this wonderful discovery.

So on the next stop on teacher traveling pyramid show and menagerie it gets to where they say my way is wrong because it's all documented and before I can say then what is the big friggin mystery Egypta comes in and starts talking like that. So now it's like Florence Nightengale holding the leash of a pit bull and suddenly everyone confesses that indeed yes, rollers are round and do in fact roll.

Its fate. Look, you got me, he first person in 4500 years to solve the pyramid mystery. Here, now. In comes this gift, a girl named Egypta, who knows stuff, says it well, and who's fist post is to me. I mean what are the friggin odds here? Like the stuff she just said, that pertains to pyramid building, I know, yet this web site I just razed had all these lying bastards jumping on me because...

1. Newbie got more attention then ten of them in the last month.
2. Their fervently held ideas were just crushed by a guy who is real good with a crowbar.
3. I showed up and first told them I was gonna draw a crowd, rock their world, was all arrogant telling it, then did it.

Now the smart thing to do would have been to show up with a pot of Earl Gray, finger sandwiches, and saying something about the bloody weather.

Then I would puke and pull my brain out through my azz in self disgust. I could write nice letters, but then I'd get invited somewhere, someone would say something stupid, and I'd go all Warden on them, and next thing you know another 4500 years has passed and they are still talking about moving blocks with kites and balloons. So here's my problem. I have the answer. But there is some secret code that says you have to suck and and worry about perception and appearances to get a lie believed before blue color tells them their fly is open and springs the truth, and I'm the only one who didn't get the memo telling everyone to suck.

But that can change. I can stay the same and live with myself, Egypta can step in when it looks like I'm ready to feed the beast in The Sewer, every body tells the truth, I get my Nobel and cash, then i hire a guy to keep an eye on my pants in case I need them and I sit around drinking beer and doing what I do best. Reminding you that you are not me. I'm amused, you're annoyed,and the planet settles back into orbit
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Pat of a email I sent to someone I've been talking to. This person says I'm solid on theory but this will not fly because they don't want it to. There will be lots of stuff like this.




Show me a theory that has father and son, master and apprentice, knocking off of work as lever man and fulcrum man on the 4th step of the 187th level. to sit down to a dinner of meat, cheese and bread and a skin of water, watching the wonderful sunset from such a vantage point, proud of their work, knowing full well the magnitude of what they do, that the ages to come will marvel at their simple achievement, not thinking for a second the simplicity of their chore will be lost for 4500 years until a wise cracking former safe mover says "duh" sitting on the couch one evening.

And one day, the worst job on the pyramid construction team.

Part played by Billo, of course.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Blocks here,
blocks there,
every where a block block.

Let's start over,

Let's look at this thing from a different perspective, or two, or...well, you know me, how about what mixedmedia (?) coined "consciousness streaming", called it babbling (pronounced like the if tower of Babel was in the act of acting all Babbelly, "he be one babbling mo fo", "that ders un babbeling sum bitch" "Fetch my tea there my good boy Nigel and be quick about it, and don't let me hear breath of any muttering noncontrivances" [copy][no, don't type copy or no stop] with my buds in high school (yea, just noticed some unplanned "It's like Christmas Father") bonus annoyance,[copy][no][damn] always good to better the abuse dealt/time spent ratio, giving me, well, you know, just more perfect abuse, which is and matemaical anomaly, and while my amusement level is not dependent yet is affect by abuse, the more you are abused the greater is my amusement so life is good because I really know how to annoy people.

What's the real question about the building of pyramids? How'd they get that st*t up there? Ramps, cranes, counter levered gizmo's, spiral ramps, wooden death machines, Is there not one problem any of you can find with any of these ideas?

You know what these peoples problem is? They can't move blocks. You show up at work on the pyramid, what are you doing all day?

Your moving blocks you morons.

Moving blocks up is solved.


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Were gonna take this real slow for you archeologists, scienetists, Phd's, engineers, not physists, (you people like me), none of you have thought this through. 4198
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

200 levels in the pyramids. Average height of a level is two and a half feet. You don't have to get up the whole pyramid, just one level, lots of times. And safely. That's a word I've not read once in all the web sites, books forums, everywhere. Never. Not once. Accidents cost money. Pharaoh's money.

Got to get up one level. Everybody goes about this a whole level at a time. Many the time delivering a safe I would move that safe from parking lot to up the curb. So we make smaller steps up the out side of the pyramid, back and forth, from the bottom it would look like some bizarro Egyptian donkey Kong.

five six inch steps, deep and wide as you need. No teetering on the edge here, safe.

Don't worry about the rollers looking like they'll hit the steps and all, rough drawings. Leave that stuff to the workers, up one level.


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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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This is an above view. Lines are rollers. Start either corner.

Oh yea geniues, cap stones first. Got to get those just right.

This is a job site.



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No way to set a block down off rollers snug against some thing. One way to do. Keep pressue on the block while bashing with something else heavy. Or a lot of jiggling with a lever.

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