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Old 08-10-06, 03:06 PM   #211
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

May my illiteracy be met with lashings, but where would you build your pyramided, Teacher?
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Welcome to the fray ledbedder20. I mean that. Now suck it up and prepare there camper, I'm gonna take you to school. Show you how it's done, cause if you think they showed me there when I can't answer, you need some edumocation. I only do this for you own good.


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Hi teacher, I'm from that other board that banned you today and I just registered here so I could share some opposing facts with your friends over here.
Fiends. Hear that gang? Like I have friends here. Subjects, underlings, abuse catchers, nah, students.

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I think the resident pyramid expert(s) did a pretty good job explaining some things to you without putting her foot in her mouth.

Right, I'll be copy/pasting all that and going over it. you need to learrn what
the difference between a rebule and saying stuff you saw in a book once is.


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You haven't been very laid back either,
Careful saying things around me. I'll put logic on you, like now.

I said I was laid back for me. I have something to compare it to. Do you?

Reevaluate that thought.

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you started attacking people in your first post! Humor is very well received on that board, what you were posting wasn't all humor, it was insulting inflammatory behavior. Very immature.

Some get it. I got many PM saying so. Humor o me is a sign of intelligence.

Now back to logic...look, your first post is attacking me specifically.


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It's strange I started reading this post and I think that, aside from inflating your own ego sometimes, you were very good at presenting your ideas.
I got to rant one post first, a couple of year old posts until I figured out the images. You aint seen nothing.
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Why couldn;t you do that over there?
Making a point. I can be myself and not change the truth of the matter. People are so fickle and petualant they can't deal with anything they have not preapproved in their sad weak minds.

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I think you would have been very well received and I would have loved to engage you in some discussion.
Then do so here. Only it's nogoing o be much discussion. Now sit down and pay attention.
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I agree with your theories, I think that it is the most likely answer!
At least you can get past the attitude and address the topic.

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Well, hopefully, you can reign in your ego, tighten your grasp on humor and civility and start educating people on this theory.
Not bad.

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Although you can't take credit for it, I think you have the knowledge to make it more understandable to the average joe.
Why are hey all acting like I invented rollers. I never say that. Show me where I do. Road made of blocks. Water level from intestine. 6" steps to raise the blocks. All mine, mine mine, and I said so there. Any mention? No. You didn' come up with rollers. That's called grasping at bull**** to avoid the meat because I shook up their little pyramid world.
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Old 08-10-06, 04:05 PM   #213
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Here's my second first post that shook them up so much.


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Pyramid construction explained and the carnage that follows.

Listen up.

Started a thread a while ago here but it's bad form to tell you all to go to another site where it's all posted. So I'll bring it here.

Best thing to do right now is make a pool on how long I'll last.

My name is Mark for the denser of you that couldn't put that together. My screen name is also my street name. My black friends told me white boys can have and choose their own street name. There ya go. My real screen name is teacher. You'll see why.

I'll now take some time to give you a real bad first impression of me.

I'm here now. This Pyramid garbage is over. I'll be posting how it could have been built. My way is head and shoulders above all the other theories. I challenge you to find fault in any part. You can't, but try. You're better off trying to understand it. This is now out in the world. I've been sending emails every where with a short message as polite as this one and the site where the theory is. I've had no mistakes found in my method yet. Most seem to dwelll on my charming disposistion and humble character. Which I guess is what you do to the man that is ending you carreer of using the interest in Pyramids to make a buck making crap up about something they don't have a clue about while I embarass and show them their place in life. The days of these charlatens is over. There is not one theory or explanaion that I have come acrcoss that I haven't been able to shoot mulitiple holes in in seconds.

Here's why.

As many know the aveage wieght of a block is 2.5 tons and about 3' cubed. Most people tying to explain how it was built were taught all they know by someone who has to call me to get their cat out fom behind the stove.

Fo ten years I moved safes. The owner was cheap. No forklift. Often moving safes with only levers and rollers. There is a way to do this. Safety is the main concern. Not once have I seen a constuction explainer have even the rudimentery basics down. Substitute 2.3 million blocks with safes. Now forget about safes. I'll be moving blocks. Still with me? Many will hate me. I'll chew your silly theories up wih hands on hard learned expeience. It's for you own good. Want to go through life being horribly wrong and telling everyone you're right or know the truth?

This can go several ways. Don't let it get ugly. I'm smarter than you and no one can talk s**t better than me.

Some suggestions.

All the methods I'll explain for moving blocks I have made a living at doing. Don't try to question them.,me. I can tilt a ton safe, raising one side in the air easily with a 3 foot crow bar. I'm not gonna give you leverage formulas or link you to a site where it says listen to me.t Don' ask me to prove nothing. I'm right. Prove me wrong. I'm busy and don't want to hold your hand while I explain rollers are round and roll. If you do anyway I'll be forrced to abuse you, and not knowing this site get banned and then you will spend the rest of you life tying ballons to blocks trying to move them.

Read all I post before questions or attempted rebuke. This will be a while. I can also explain Stonehenge, Mayan pyramids, obilisks, and on. All the methods apply, just clever varied aplications. In time this will lead to my submitting this to the good Dr. Hawwas and then the Nobel prize. But I want to spread some joy fist. I abore liars, theives, and immorality. I'm cleaning house on this matter. If you find a mistake and prove it I will admit it. If. Now forget about that.

Bad spelling does not keep a pyramid from being built. Is there spell check here? Pointing out my English mistakes does not shame me and shows you have nothing of value to add, you can't rebuke me, and points out your small petulant character. And may bring my wrath which is terrible to behold. Ask informed thought out questions. If I haven't covered it ask, it will be coming because I have this from quarry to top.

I'm here now. Be thankful in your good fortune and pay attention.

Now you can compare leds post and comments to the actual post. See how I'm all up front like led? This is how I do things. I loved Byrd over there saying all I have to do is acknowledge what they want and he'll let me in. AFTER I PM'ed him saying just that.

You know, I'm not gonna bother with the rebukes. if asked I'll post them. Basically the big rebuke was that there is no mention or drawings of my ideas. But then there's hardly any text or drawings on this matter. That's why it's such a big mystery. And that's why the world couldn't come up with a real theory until I came along.

Lots of supportive PM's, the usual ignore my points and point to something I didn't say. Using my attitude as an excuse to not address the points. One guy cancelled his account because of my treatment.


2000 views in 12 hours baby.

Newbies thread at the top of the list on the home page for interesting threads. It's not my attitude, it's not that I'm wrong, it's that I'm right and I'm rocking that place like you all have never seen.

Hey led? You seem cool and open. If you get around to doing some reading here, you'll see that's all as I said it would be. And that's even more annoying, ain't it?


Oh, you unwashed masses? There isn't onepost from this thread and nary the cartoon. Imagine if there was? You can't make this ***** up.

Interesting day. Wonder who's next. Maybe that Gordon fellow. Stacking crib multiple levels high with a block on top. Can you say "pyramid sleigh ride"?

Shake em' up. I'm still not booted out there yet. I can PM and read still. They are talking about me. I linked this place. They've been coming and going.They don't say anything about these posts though.

Petulant.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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Great and Wise teacher,
The taper on the logs doesn't matter. An individual log wouldn't be under the block long enough to creep enough to matter. The other issue is the logs would be self rounding. With the wider ends carrying the majority of the weight, those ends would wear down more quickly, producing a nice even roller within a fairly short amount of time. The workers probably looked forward to when a log had made a couple of trips to the pyramid and was nicely rounded, but not yet falling apart.

Excellent. Getting there. Didn't think of that. But I went what, two solid rebukes on that. I'll go into the amount of rollers, spacing, starting them, set up, how a block acts on rollers, you'd be surpised how much in just that.

That's thinking bro.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

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May my illiteracy be met with lashings, but where would you build your pyramided, Teacher?
As long as the point gets across. I'm no English Nazi.

Where? On top of that capitol "T". You've been here long enough. I guess it's time to change the sig for a while.

I wouldn't build one. It's enough I know how and in building one they could see and it would not encourage my constant harping on you needing to see this in your minds eye.

Like faithful servant just did. I'm fairly sure he didn't go hack some trees down and test this out.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Haha! You are a character Teach! As much as I hate to say this, I think I like you for some reason...

But I thought you were going to take me to school? I didn't see any resemblance of a school. Oh well, maybe on the next one.

I didn't go through every page of this thread, so I apoligize if you have done this already, but I think you should get a condensed version, include your drawings and explain everything step by step. Put it in a version that you can recreate pretty easily.

That way, if you so chose, you can get your point across much easier on a new BBS.

Well, I registered here to get a point across (which I don't think I did) but it seems pretty interesting. Maybe I'll stick around and see what you guys do over here.

Teach, don't get upset if I don't reply back to your posts in a timely manner in the future, it's not that I'm dodging an argument, I just don't get onto these boards as often as I'd like any more.
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Yet again, as always, I bring it. You don't.

Like there was ever any doubt.

Told you The Warden was taking the show on he road and to expect this.

Some more?

(In the voice of Curly) Coitenly.


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I agree with the posters who say "let the little arrogant SOB post"
It is truly within rights of moderators to put a stop to this baiting and abuse, but in this case, i think we could have had more fun with tearing his little "original" theory apart...

obviously Byrd was dismembering him, and hadn't even put the gloves on yet... I humbly ask that you let the guy post again, on paroll of course... yank him back off the minute he proves too immature to discuss his theory...
I suspect, with the facts presented thus far, that he wont bother anyway, but at least allow him...

My request comes not from wishing for fairness, or any such moral reason...
I simply hate ignorance... it is dissapointing to hear such wrong ideas from intellegent people... if they were enlightened, then they would be joining the chorus, rather than screaching at the top of their lungs, and bugging the hell out of everyone...

I do see this as a good test of the troll control network though... good job mods... but please reconsider for this one unusual exception...
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Some of us are not engineers, but we do understand concepts. Some posts
capture your attention just because the concept is presented in a factual, yet easy
to follow manner. This is where we "learn something new every day".

But rudeness is rudeness. . . . . . ."Oh, why don't we let him back in?"
"Let him say what he wants . . .blah, blah, blah".

If you settle for less, less is what you'll get. Personally, I'm waiting for his hot air
theory on levitating the blocks.




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I have to admitt, this is one of the most entertaining ways I have ever heard anyone explain their theory/idea. I had an image of an egotistical David Helfgott in my mind the entire time. It seemed to me that his 'insults' were nothing more than humor lined with a few small thorns. Do we need to take ourselves so seriously all the time? CX seems to get it, and he was the first to suffer.

Does the rough humor take away from his theory? I don't think so. It makes it more palatable. If only other long-winded posts (mine included) could hold people's attention as well as Marchimedes's did.
To be honest I have seen ATS members say worse things without getting banned. I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but if one member gets banned this quickly for saying something 'mean', then there should be no exception for any other members. If insults got everyone banned equally, half the membership would be gone in an instant. The guy deserved a warning, I'll give you that much,..... but banning him this quickly is a bit suspect. Just my humble opinion of course. Don't ban me for saying so!

Marchimedes,... in case you come back, I'm interested to see what you have to say about Byrd's replies to you thus far. Try to keep it as civil as possible without losing some of that more acceptable humor.
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

500 views in the last 24.

No rebuke with teeth here or there. Does that mean anything?

Getting a lot of PM's there. About 50/50.

Some like this...



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quote: I don't know if this message will get through to you or
not, and as you say "I couldn't care less".
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Well, can't be myself on the boards, but here?

Let it begin...

Logic: If you could care less you wouldn't have wrote me.

Or you're just a dick like me.


quote: I don't particularly like the way you come on.


Maybe you shold start a movement, grow a little mustach, collect others like you, and make all behave like you.

quote: You're a big blowhard. You like to intimidate people
don't you? It's all about you isn't it? You are a pathetic
excuse for an intelligent life form.
Intelligent? Thank you. You come on ATS
where there's a bunch of great people, real people, and
you have to bring your "show" with you because you're
just a scared little runt with a big mouth and a small
penis. I think you ruin the atmosphere of ATS by running
your mouth. Go back to your little dark basement where
you're the "warden", because you'll never be anything up here where the air is cleaner.


I'll be acting like a sheep from now on. I tried, got he low down, it's over.

Got stuff to do. Gonna save your u2u and later continue with the abuse.

I used logic first, then humor to point out a personality flaw. There way more. Your words are a wealth of targets. Use caution when writing me.Proof read your words for mistakes of logic and statements of personal beliefs, because I will use your words against you. When finished find someone smarter to check you, I can lend you a monkey if you like.

I look forward to our future corospondence.

The Warden


PS I think I was clear about if you all want to do this, trying me, there is a place for it, in full view of the public. If you have the balls. There will be no ganging up on you. I will ensure that because I'm The Warden.
Some like this...

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I think the thing that bugs them the most is the view total, the big number below. 48 hours.

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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

As an avid fan of Egyptology, I am well pleased to have tripped onto this thread today.

First, may I commend Teacher for a thought evoking theorem on how the construction of the great pyramids was planned and expedited. I admit, I know little about construction, but Teacher’s hypothesis at least made me think of one or two moderate adjustments that to my mind anyway, might make his theorem more plausible. They say that necessity is the mother of invention, and from what I gather, teacher is not advocating that his construction IS how it was, but rather how he, after calling upon that mother of invention, perceives how the construction MAY have commenced. And I stress—‘may’.

To the skeptics looking for a fool proof architectural plan I say---the hundreds of mastabas dotting the Nile valley from the (earliest known) Naqada period to the era of the bent pyramid and the time of Khefre should be considered as evidence enough that pyramidal architecture was not conceived of in one day. The architects of old had centuries upon which they learned, tested and honed their craft, so why try and ridicule a man who has put forth a theory based on what he has learned but has no means of testing? Had he written a book or penned a piece in Wikipedia on the subject, I am fairly certain that many would be citing that as evidence against whoever might proffer a differing point of view simply because they can, and simply because people from other websites (at least from what I have seen) are credited with far more knowledge and intellect than those of your own based on the number of references to external sources which I have witnessed in my net travels.

There are many erroneous statments made regarding ancient Egypt on this thread, which I presume first of all may stem from a base premise to be argumentative and secondly, out of ignorance of Egyptian history as some currently presume to know it. I take for example Jerry’s questions of August 2., And who, Teacher, is this Byrd of whom you speak?
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Re: How to build a Pyramid.

Yet another new member whose first post is for me.

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As an avid fan of Egyptology, I am well pleased to have tripped onto this thread today.
You're Egypta, and seeing this was chance?

First, see the name? Notice the "t" is lower case? This tells me something but you are new. Stay issued.

Where are my manners? Allow me to introduce myself.

I'm teacher, of the Colossal Brain, Lord and Master of all I Survey, DP's most Favorite Asshole and most Creative Poster, CIC of the Monkey Army, God of Smack, Champion of Copy/Paste, Holder of Billo's Leash, the Perfect Libertarian, Rememberer of Stuff, Basement Warden, Scourage of Paris, Knower of all Things, Distributer of the Basement VIP Lounge Keys, Spreader of the Contagion, a Snappy Dresser, Holder of the Fortune Teller, Grand Poobah of Debate Politics.

Glad to answer any questions.

I'm not a bad person. But at this site I'm contratually obligated to give everyone a hard time, so what is coming (I will try to be gentle) I do to all, is expected of me, fun, and should not drive you off or indicate I don't want discussion on this matter. Laugh.


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First, may I commend Teacher for a thought evoking theorem on how the construction of the great pyramids was planned and expedited. I admit, I know little about construction, but Teacher’s hypothesis at least made me think of one or two moderate adjustments
Adjustments like additions, changes, what? Let's hear them. Note you haven't seen every idea of mine. This is phase one. I have a few ideas that progressivly shorten the time it takes the block to get from top to bottom. Though I don't think they were that smart.

Or adjustments for you?

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that to my mind anyway, might make his theorem more plausible.
As it stands it is entirely plausible. Steamlined? Efficiant? Safe?

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They say that necessity is the mother of invention, and from what I gather, teacher is not advocating that his construction IS how it was, but rather how he, after calling upon that mother of invention, perceives how the construction MAY have commenced. And I stress—‘may’.
Most excellent. Will you marry me? If you are male (guessing not) I will choose to be gay. I do stress that, don't I? As I do on another site yet many say I say it IS the way it was done to rebuke and dismiss my whole theory. Tells me they got nothing and are grasping at staws.

I call my theory twiwdi. (the way I would do it). More fitting my charming personality.


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To the skeptics looking for a fool proof architectural plan I say---the hundreds of mastabas dotting the Nile valley from the (earliest known) Naqada period to the era of the bent pyramid and the time of Khefre should be considered as evidence enough that pyramidal architecture was not conceived of in one day.
You know stuuf. Good. I think I touch on this but anyway it's a fact and to me so obvious as not needed to be mentioned. They had a long time to come up with and improve on their methods. Father taught sons. Masters taught apprentices. I was taught by a master when I started my job building banks. My friend and teacher's name of all things was Guy Banker. This topic is one of those that I will get to. I've jokes, stoires of their life, a typical day, and on. But first I have to get people to understand how easy it is to move weight with lever and rollers, accept that my method is by far the best ever and accounts for all of todays knowledge of the event. Such as my way accounts for why there is so little evidence today. Not covered yet but important is the speed at which the job was done. No other method comes close. And safety. In my way what is the chance of a block falling? It's always only a roller high at most and on level surface so it wont get away. I've more safety stuff. And that also supports my way. Every other way I've seen I would refuse to participate in fo fear of life and limb. My safe moving job was in the same category fo workman's comp as high rise steel riggers. The top category. I plaayed with safes, vault doors and safe deposit boxes fo ten years. All the nay sayers of twiwdi don't ever begin to fathom how much they don't know about moving weight and safety never crosses their minds in their ideas and thoughts of pyramid building. To wieght movers it's concern #1. The closest these fools come to considering safety in their theories is being mindful of paper cuts and blowing on their Coffee.

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The architects of old had centuries upon which they learned, tested and honed their craft, so why try and ridicule a man who has put forth a theory based on what he has learned but has no means of testing?
With me you have to use English more betterer. By testing you mean which part? Keeping just to the construction and moving of blocks I don't need to test. I got paid to do these things. Some of my more advanced methods could use testing, or more like working out small details like roller sizes for different places and distance and heights and such. And somewhere here I show what I would do to prove I can go up one level by myself in ten minutes. You need o be more clear please. Post #180.

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Had he written a book or penned a piece in Wikipedia
Never thought of that. That is reader written ritgh? I could stream line and submit my idea there. Is this correct?

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on the subject, I am fairly certain that many would be citing that as evidence against whoever might proffer a differing point of view simply because they can,
and because that's all they got. It should read.


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and simply because people from other websites (at least from what I have seen) are credited with far more knowledge and intellect than those of your own based on the number of references to external sources which I have witnessed in my net travels.
That's just fu*ked up and tells me more. Over the last year the only thing I've learned from my discussions was from Tashah about an aborted saw cut on the Pharos sarcoughogus which really has nohing to do with the validity of my theory and just now the name of the period. This other web site (where I suspect you are from) I just started abusing has many folks telling me all sorts of history and facts. They have yet to tell me something new. I don't post links. I don't need to. Linking is a crutch and often means the poster doesn't understand the topic well enough to put into his own words. So if I linked to sites that say things like rollers are round and watter is wet I'd be smarter? Clear this up.


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There are many erroneous statments made regarding ancient Egypt on this thread,
By me?
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which I presume first of all may stem from a base premise to be argumentative
That's me and known and not an issue. I can be argumentative and present facts. I can balance on a empty wire spool, swing Nunchucks and answer Jeopardy questions while drunk too. So what about argumentative? Don't go there.

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and secondly, out of ignorance of Egyptian history as some currently presume to know it.
If I err on a name, date, place or something, lemme know. I'll admit my mistake, learn the correct fact, get smarter and thank you. And don't forget, this is my thead about building *****, not wether the Pharoh's daughter whored herself out to help pay for the pyramid. Never heard of the Naqada period. Keep that stuff coming. But it has nothing to do with where to put a fulcrum.

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I take for example Jerry’s questions of August 2.
Bottomless pit? Salt lines? Center of gravity? Say it. I don't like people saying bull****, making claims and statements and not backing it up. Renders the statement moot (yes), is a waste of time, and draws my ire. You don't want that. Dogging folks on this thread other than me is kinda a waste of time.
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And, And who, Teacher, is this Byrd of whom you speak?
The other sites resident acknowledged pyramid expert. I think right now he is in shock and denial. His big rebuke of twiwdi is that there is all sorts of written and drawn evidence against my way. News to me. Seems if there was all that evidence there wouldn't be such a big mystery. I think there's like a drawing of a block on a sled and that's about it. But I'm skeptical about even that. He also says things like "this how it was done" and "it's prooven". He also lectures me on my tone and how it's not the way to do hings. I think he does that because he can't stand and won't accept the fact I went in there and on my first day my thread probably broke every view and interest statistic they have. And before that I said it would, with attitude. He will suffer in the future greatly at a time of my choosing. Count on it. For now I giggle that he has no idea how badly I will prove him wrong, insult him accordingly, bust him on his home turf, embarrass him in front of his fans, use him as a example in my human nature lesson, and with his own words expose his petulance and immorality. Or to put it another way, add his azz to my list of victims.

Now, if you still want to play, and I hope you do, I've questions as you say you know Egypt stuff. How much evidence is there of the building of this thing? Was there trees back then? Where's my pants? Most blocks were from a nearby quarry I say was 500 yards away and the big blocks and obelisks were from 500 miles up the Nile, right? Imhotep was the super? Is there evidence indicating that the triangle with a string was the only way they found level? What proof is there that the trench filled with water was the means to level the base of the pyramid? Heard of the solar telescope theory? Can you hook me up with Dr. Kali Hawwas? Any places, people, or web sites I can drop twiwdi on? Are you as smart as you make yourself appear?
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