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I think they would have built them in steps (tiers or terraces). After they completed their base for the pyramid they would lift the blocks for the first tier from ground level by a contrivance, they were made from short timbers. On the first tier there was another contrivance to lift for the next and so on. This has also been tested by engineers and they agree that this type of devise could lift blocks that weigh over 100,000lbs

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[QUOTE=ThePhoenix]I think they would have built them in steps (tiers or terraces). After they completed their base for the pyramid they would lift the blocks for the first tier from ground level by a contrivance, they were made from short timbers. On the first tier there was another contrivance to lift for the next and so on. This has also been tested by engineers and they agree that this type of devise could lift blocks that weigh over 100,000lbs



That device lifts a 100,000 lbs? And what did they use to produce the counter weight, a safe? Theories like that make me look good. I'm not even close to done here either.

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Teacher - Your step system confuses me..what exactly would the Egyptians have used to push down the lever to lift a 2.5 ton block of stone? What would the rollars me made of that could support the weight of 2.5 ton stone? Wouldn't the stone flip over the step thereby crushing the slaves on the side pulling the stone? I imagine the system would work on a small scale and low height but not on a large scale with a large height. The pyramid is too high for the step system to work because the Egyptians would have to have built some sort of scafalding capable of holding the weight of the 2.5 ton stone, and lifted the stone onto the scafalding vertically to achieve that height with your step system.

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[QUOTE] I can honestly tell you I've lifted safes of that wieght and heavier with a 6' lever just as in picture #2 in post #1 thousands of times with just my weight. It's a lever. That's the whole point.
Logs. Yes they will get tore up over time and need to be replaced. Never said this wasn't a lot of work.

No. Or I too would be dead from all the safes I moved the same way. And I never said you don't have to be careful.

The pyramid is made up of 203 levels of a average hight of 2.5'. My step method is comprised of steps with a 6" rise and maybe 6' tread. 5 small steps per level. The large heavy blocks of the various chambers will be addressed later.

Good point. I'm taking this one step at a time here so we can run through your questions of each step before moving on to the next step. This is just the way to move blocks up 2.5'. You have jumped ahead. The process is detailed further ahead in the basement thread "How to Crash a Server".

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Interesting. So how would they have lifted the stone onto the rollars and on top of lever?

Wouldn't the stone eventually move over the logs and fall off because the logs are rolling under it? Wouldn't it be extremely difficult to roll the stone because the logs would be swerving? Unless the logs are all somehow connected, a platform was attached to the logs, and the slaves pulled the platform instead of the stone.



It might explain the number of deaths in the construction of the pyramid.



Ok. So, the stone is successfully levered onto step 1..how would they put the rollars under it and levered it again onto step 2?



Ok. I'll take a look It's nice to hear a fresh idea.

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Just taking some tried and true safe moving principles and putting a new spin on them.

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How do you explain the fact that the levers attached to the basket in your animation stretch when the basket is at it's highest point?

And since the levers seem to be of equal length at each side of the fulcrum, you would be able to lift no more than the combined weight of the two people operating the levers.

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This had neither the size nor capacity to lift the massive 70 ton blocks that make up the King's Chamber. I'd like to meet these engineers.

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And they have to shrink when it's at the middle...