Thread: Live Sex Shows Legal in Oregon

I watched The O'Reilly Factor tonight (for 10-10-2005) and he mentioned that live sex shows are legal in Oregon. It's the only state in the union where they are legal.

What do you guys think about this?

I think we should pass a national law banning live sex shows as to safeguard the moral foundation of this country.

I think it should be legal. It is a victimless crime, and all those involved are there willingly. We should look to change the personal decisions of the American people to safeguard our moral foundation.

Think about this:
Suppose I don't go to live sex shows because I think it is immoral (which I do). Now suppose I don't go to it only because its illegal and I don't want to get in trouble. In which instance am I showing virtue?

If you don't see the argument here - I'll give you some more examples:
Suppose person A gives money to charity because its the right thing to do. Now suppose that person A pays taxes to the government which go to charity. In which instance is person A demonstrating a moral quality?

Should a woman living under an Islamic Theocracy be praised for modesty if she wears a covering - even if the penalty for not doing it is - well - unpleasant?
What about a muslim woman doing the same by choice in the US?

Originally Posted by Connecticutter

I think it should be legal. It is a victimless crime, and all those involved are there willingly. We should look to change the personal decisions of the American people to safeguard our moral foundation.

Think about this:
Suppose I don't go to live sex shows because I think it is immoral (which I do). Now suppose I don't go to it only because its illegal and I don't want to get in trouble. In which instance am I showing virtue?

If you don't see the argument here - I'll give you some more examples:
Suppose person A gives money to charity because its the right thing to do. Now suppose that person A pays taxes to the government which go to charity. In which instance is person A demonstrating a moral quality?

Should a woman living under an Islamic Theocracy be praised for modesty if she wears a covering - even if the penalty for not doing it is - well - unpleasant?
What about a muslim woman doing the same by choice in the US?

I feel that legalizing it will lead to crime and possibly a higher rate of divorce.

Originally Posted by George_Washington

I feel that legalizing it will lead to crime and possibly a higher rate of divorce.

How so? Making things illegal usually leads to more crime.
Why a higher rate of divorce?

Originally Posted by Connecticutter

How so? Making things illegal usually leads to more crime.
Why a higher rate of divorce?

I think that just the nature of the business would lead to more crime and I think that divorce would go up because it would give people more of an incentive to want to cheat.

Originally Posted by George_Washington

I think that just the nature of the business would lead to more crime and I think that divorce would go up because it would give people more of an incentive to want to cheat.

If a person is going to cheat, I highly doubt it would be because of a live sex show. Broken marriages can only be blamed on the individuals involved, not a performance industry.

I think it's kick ass! Although I wouldn't go to see it. Kinda like watching sports on TV. Much more healthy for you if you stop watching and start playing.

Its just sex.

If people want to pay to watch other people going at it, so be it. Although I much prefer having sex with someone else, rather than watching it live or cable for the matter! Ha ha!. But hay, if that is how you get your kicks then so be it.

And if you don't like the idea of going to live sex shows, then you don't have to go and watch it.

In terms of consensual sexual acts between adults, what is moral is relative to the individual. Imagine I said this, I think that conservative Christians should be forced to see live sex acts, because America and the U.S is at threat of becoming prudish!


Anyway all very interesting!

I don't know about you guys, but I prefer my sex shows to have at least five minute delay. That way, there's plenty of time to cut to commercial if anything inappropriate should occur.

Seriously though, how in the world does waiting for the exact same footage to cycle through editors, manufacturers, video stores and whoever else minimize the 'harm' these shows cause to society? Seems to me that the only additional footage you'd see from live footage would be the bloopers that end up on the cutting room floor. Sounds like people queasy over pornography in general want to cut back on the variety in vain efforts to reduce quantity.

I'd be very interested in reading rationalizations about how live sex shows (more so than on demand pay-per-view movies, store bought pornos, or 24 hour sex channels) damage society in ways that justify violating the first amendment rights of mutually consenting adults.

Of course it should be legal. For one thing, it's no one else's business as long as everyone there is consenting. For another thing, it's DEFINITELY not the federal government's business whether or not individual states allow things like this. We don't need laws to "safeguard the moral foundation of our country," because what you REALLY mean is we need laws to "impose my personal moral foundation on the country." If you consider live sex shows immoral, don't go to them.

If this is a real political issue, then the United States badly needs to get laid.