human euthanasia--it is happening

dthmstr254 · 10-07-05, 07:36 PM

We have all seen the news, and one of the most televised event of the year is the Terri Schiavo case. Did you know that the state of Florida euthanizes over 8000 people a year?
I held a personal interview with Terri's parents and listened to a message by their lawyer Dr. David Gibbs III. I am going to give a basic set of topics that surround this event, including murder and hate, and love, determination, and trials.
Euthanasia is not a way to make a person comfortable, or end their pain. Yes, their pain does end, but they don't have a chance to live. these people have put their lives in the hands of their loved ones and those loved ones have betrayed them. Mr Schiavo actually promised that he would do everything in his power to help Terri recover.
You say "but Terri was disabled."
This is true, but she was still able to do many things that we are able to do. Accounts from the Schindlers and Dr Gibbs tell of an energetic young woman who was excited to meet visitors, especially her mother. She would jump out of the La-Z-Boy chair in her hospital room, run up to her mother, hug her, and say "Ama". she was rehabilitating well with her speech, and was able to communicate pretty clearly what it was that she wanted. This disabled woman would cry when her mother left the room. This is not terminal illness that we are dealing with; just the results of a terrible occurence that left her brain damaged.
You say "but she was on a one-way road to death"
This is a flagrant lie. Terri didn't require a respirator, lung machine, or heart regulator. the only thing that she needed was to be fed, which everybody requires. If a prison decided to stop feeding the prisoners, the Federal Government would be all over them about breaking regulations and removing the prisoners constitutional rights. If we decided not to feed prisoners of war the Geneva Convention would be all over us for violating the POW's rights. where has America come to when a POW and convicted murderer have more rights than a young, disabled citizen of the United States? Is Terri Schiavo going to be just a stepping stone to a day where if a person gets too old we can exterminate him? or will we as Americans say "the buck stops here!"? what is your choice?
note: this was a hard topic to categorize, so i just stuck it here.

FinnMacCool · 10-07-05, 07:43 PM

It is impossible to vote on this topic because your choices are so obviously partisan.

Its like if I was a nazi and I asked if you agree that we should whipe out all jews and the choices were 'Yes. It is important for the Aryan race' or 'No. I want the jews to rape me.' Pretty dumb, obviously.

Technocratic_Utilitarian · 10-07-05, 07:51 PM

Don't even mention Terry Schivo. There was no Terry--we had an empty husk with a liquified brain. That's not a person. A Monkey has more sentience than she did. Its good she was euthanized. It stopped the indignity of having people treat her living corpse as a circus.

dthmstr254 · 10-07-05, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Technocratic_Utilitarian

Don't even mention Terry Schivo. There was no Terry--we had an empty husk with a liquified brain. That's not a person. A Monkey has more sentience than she did. Its good she was euthanized. It stopped the indignity of having people treat her living corpse as a circus.

so what was she before? a non entity. then that makes you one too, because what applies to one human being applies to all of them. seems like you are now an empty husk.

I just happen to possess a seven page doctor's report (hard copy) that disagrees with the assumption that she was an empty husk or a nonsentient being, thanks to the CLA. this report is from a doctor who examined her in 2001, years after the accident that disabled her. it describes her as a healthy young woman who had only two problems, the fact that she could not go through the motions of moving her hands to the plate to get food and then bring it to her mouth, among other motor abilities; and the ability to speak clearly; both of which were improving daily with things like her being able to say "Ama" (mama) "Ader" (father) and other things, like the ability to pic up after herself and open up the La-Z-Boy chair leg rest. she was steadily improving due to the diligent efforts of her parents and the doctors, nothing that was caused by he husband.

Technocratic_Utilitarian · 10-07-05, 08:24 PM

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so what was she before? a non entity. then that makes you one too, because what applies to one human being applies to all of them. seems like you are now an empty husk.

Hardly. And yes, she was a non-person. She ceased to exist due to her lack of brainmatter. Her brain was partially liquified in the region controlling conscious awareness. She a Zombie.

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I just happen to possess a seven page doctor's report (hard copy) that disagrees with the assumption that she was an empty husk or a nonsentient being, thanks to the CLA.

Good for you. There were many doctors who disagreed, and there was a Scan of her brain quite prevelant circulated. Her brain was liquified. Your docs are probably quacks (actually, some of them were quacks and were on quackwatch)

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this report is from a doctor who examined her in 2001, years after the accident that disabled her. it describes her as a healthy young woman who had only two problems, the fact that she could not go through the motions of moving her hands to the plate to get food and then bring it to her mouth, among other motor abilities; and the ability to speak clearly; both of which were improving daily with things like her being able to say "Ama" (mama) "Ader" (father) and other things, like the ability to pic up after herself and open up the La-Z-Boy chair leg rest. she was steadily improving due to the diligent efforts of her parents and the doctors, nothing that was caused by he husband.

Sorry. Don't buy it. I will trust what most of the doctors said. She was a veiggie burger. The "improvement" is a running gag wanked to by pro-life Republitards. Lots of people tried masturbating to the idea that she could talk, move, and get better. That's gobbledeegook. Half her brain was sludge, including the part that delt with such things.

Naughty Nurse · 10-07-05, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dthmstr254

so what was she before? a non entity. then that makes you one too, because what applies to one human being applies to all of them. seems like you are now an empty husk.

I just happen to possess a seven page doctor's report (hard copy) that disagrees with the assumption that she was an empty husk or a nonsentient being, thanks to the CLA. this report is from a doctor who examined her in 2001, years after the accident that disabled her. it describes her as a healthy young woman who had only two problems, the fact that she could not go through the motions of moving her hands to the plate to get food and then bring it to her mouth, among other motor abilities; and the ability to speak clearly; both of which were improving daily with things like her being able to say "Ama" (mama) "Ader" (father) and other things, like the ability to pic up after herself and open up the La-Z-Boy chair leg rest. she was steadily improving due to the diligent efforts of her parents and the doctors, nothing that was caused by he husband.

So why, on the official "save Terri" website, did we see only footage of Terri utterly failing to do any of those things?