Do you support the goals of Hamas and Hezbollah?

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 02:22 PM

In the Mideast forum I see a lot of people attacking Israel, many don't come out and say that they support Hamas and Hezbollah, however, some do and I want to get a feel for how many people actually support the agendas of these two organizations.

SWM · 12-03-08, 03:00 PM

I haven't read anything about either organization that would imply they have any substantial interests other than territorialism and killing in the name of God.

Iriemon · 12-03-08, 03:04 PM

What are their goals?

Goobieman · 12-03-08, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jin1776

In the Mideast forum I see a lot of people attacking Israel, many don't come out and say that they support Hamas and Hezbollah, however, some do and I want to get a feel for how many people actually support the agendas of these two organizations.

Personally, I support the suicide of radical Jew-hating Islam - and so, I fully support their efforts to have the IDF kill them off as quickly as possible.

shiznit770 · 12-03-08, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jin1776

In the Mideast forum I see a lot of people attacking Israel, many don't come out and say that they support Hamas and Hezbollah, however, some do and I want to get a feel for how many people actually support the agendas of these two organizations.

I definitely do not support Hamas, I do not see anything productive in their organization or goals. Hezbollah on the other hand has been politicized and publicly hijacked to suit the interests of other countries (Iran) while being demonized in the US. While I do not support their public goals, I do believe they are capable of rational compromise and reform. It is also overlooked that they condemned acts of violence on American civilians and no longer use suicide attacks since Israel mostly withdrew from Lebanon.

Cephus · 12-03-08, 03:27 PM

I don't like Israel particularly, but neither do I support the religious agendas of *ANY* nation or group, therefore I also don't care for Hamas or Hezbollah.

Can I say I dislike all three and be done with it?

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit770

I definitely do not support Hamas, I do not see anything productive in their organization or goals. Hezbollah on the other hand has been politicized and publicly hijacked to suit the interests of other countries (Iran) while being demonized in the US. While I do not support their public goals, I do believe they are capable of rational compromise and reform. It is also overlooked that they condemned acts of violence on American civilians and no longer use suicide attacks since Israel mostly withdrew from Lebanon.

Have they renounced their manifesto? What about them makes you believe that they are capable of ratinality? They may not use suicide attacks but they're still using indiscirimate rocket fire against civilians.

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

What are their goals?

Hezbollah and Hamas both seek the destruction of the state of Israel, the erection of an Islamist state in its place, and in the case of Hamas the eradication of the Jewish people world wide.

Khayembii Communique · 12-03-08, 06:27 PM

I support the dismantling of the current Israeli state and the construction of a joint Israeli-Palestinian socialist state. Where does that put me?

obvious Child · 12-03-08, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jin1776

Hezbollah and Hamas both seek the destruction of the state of Israel, the erection of an Islamist state in its place, and in the case of Hamas the eradication of the Jewish people world wide.

What about the goals of providing education, healthcare and housing? Not to mention food?

Or are we going to pretend those don't exist?

Some of Hamas's goals are disgusting such as the murder of all jews. Some of them are not like providing basic healthcare. Generalizations help no one.

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