shiznit770

They are fighting down to the level of their enemies. Israel's liberal use of artillery and air strikes kill civilians and infrastructure more often than not. Since they are capable of a prolonged ceasefire and their demands of Israel are much less severe, I believe a compromise could be reached.

The fact is there is "indiscriminate" fire from both sides. No one can argue that more Israeli citizens have been effected than Lebanese. The conflict is brutal and as history shows, the victor generally gets greater say in how things are portrayed. This does not mean I agree with targeting civilians, but things should be put into perspective. Civilians were targeted by both sides. The nature of weapons used on both sides is to destroy infrastructure in a wide area. If you want to condemn Hezbollah for targeting civilians, also condemn Israel.

Goobieman

Except that Israel doesnt target civilans.

Israel may decide to attack a Hamas/Hezbollah position, and do so knowing that civilians will probably die, but that's not targeting civilians.

Blowing up a school bus with a suicide bomber? THAT is targeting civilians

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shiznit770

I'm talking about Hezbollah, your comparison is irrelevant and statement erroneous.

Goobieman

-I- am talking about your claim that "Civilians were targeted by both sides" and that "If you want to condemn Hezbollah for targeting civilians, also condemn Israel".

Given that, my comparison is entirely relevant and right on the money.

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shiznit770

You threw Hamas into the mix and a school bus bombing, I was talking about Hezbollah. As for Israel I could find you evidence of Israel indiscriminately firing and not investigating the results of said artillery strikes.

Goobieman

I see. Well, even with that, my statement stands.

If you find an isntance where the Israelis attacked a purely civilian target with the intention to kill civilians, let me know.

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shiznit770

Intentions are not facts, they are disputable and mere claims by random observers or the questionable party. I can show reports of indiscriminate artillery fire, but then you'll make me read it to you. Then you'll say it was made with a purpose and ask me to explain the report to you. I'm going to save both of us some time by not debating this issue with you.

Goobieman

I'm sorry.... you use the terms 'targetted' and 'targeting'. Those are deliberate acts, and necessitate intent.

Therefore, you must show that the acts were deliberate, with intent.

Yes, it would be best, if you cannot support your statements, for you to run away.

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jin1776

Ya because Hezbollah dresses like civilians, uses human shields, and launches attacks out of civilian sectors.

They're in the process of regrouping now after they were dessimated by Israel, they are also working eagerly to cease total power in Lebanon. Have they renounced their manifesto? Call me when that happens.

Bull****, Israel does not target civians they targeted Hezbollah that hides amongst civilians big ****ing difference.

No I condemn Hezbollah for hiding amongst civilians and launching attacks from densly populated civilian sectors in stark violation of the laws and customs of war.

Laila

Hamas has killed civilians.
Hezbollah has killed civilians.
Israel has killed civilians

All 3 have done a measure of good and bad. Hezbollah funded hospitals and schools and gave aid to Lebanese.

No option for all 3?

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