Do you support the goals of Hamas and Hezbollah?

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by obvious Child

What about the goals of providing education, healthcare and housing? Not to mention food?

Or are we going to pretend those don't exist?

Do we discuss the goals of providing education, healthcare, food, and housing when we discuss the goals of the Nazi party? These goals which are only used to gain the favor of the masses are trumped by their goals of mass murder and the destruction of a liberal democracy.

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Some of Hamas's goals are disgusting such as the murder of all jews. Some of them are not like providing basic healthcare. Generalizations help no one.

I guess providing for healthcare trumps their wish to slaughter the Jews or at the very least minimizes it. Are you freaking serious?

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique

I support the dismantling of the current Israeli state and the construction of a joint Israeli-Palestinian socialist state. Where does that put me?

In the "destuction of Israel through a demographic shift" category.

bhkad · 12-03-08, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

What are their goals?

Don't play dumb.

Khayembii Communique · 12-03-08, 06:45 PM

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In the "destuction of Israel through a demographic shift" category.

How? Which demographic shift?

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique

How? Which demographic shift?

The demographic shift of "Palestinians" into Israel proper putting them into the majority leaving the Jews at the mercy of a people who voted for their eradication.

partier9 · 12-03-08, 06:51 PM

Do I support blowing yourself in the name of God, or am I dedicated to wiping out Israel, no. But even though both groups are terrorist groups I have seen some decent things done by Hezbollah. During the the Israeli-Lebanon war Hezbollah was sheltering people, providing people with food and water, and doing other humanitarian efforts. Now with that being said the reasons for doing this is unknown to me, where they doing it out of the kindness of their hearts, or to simply get the people of Lebanon on their side? I don't know, but they also intentionally fired rockets into civilian areas of Israel. So with that being said I am mostly against the two groups.

jin1776 · 12-03-08, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by partier9

Do I support blowing yourself in the name of God, or am I dedicated to wiping out Israel, no. But even though both groups are terrorist groups I have seen some decent things done by Hezbollah. During the the Israeli-Lebanon war Hezbollah was sheltering people, providing people with food and water, and doing other humanitarian efforts.

Good for them they also started the war by kidnapping Israeli soldiers under the cover of a rocket barrage into Israeli civilian neighborhoods.

bhkad · 12-03-08, 06:55 PM

Lest us return to the issue of equality.
The idea is unacceptable to Islam.
For the non-believer cannot be the equal of the believer.
Even among the believers only those who subscribe to the three so-called Abrahamic religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam ( Ahl el-Kitab) are regarded as fully human.
Here is the hierarchy of human worth in Islam:
At the summit are free male Muslims
Next come Muslim male slaves
Then come free Muslim women
Next come Muslim slave women.
Then come free Jewish and /or Christian men
Then come slave Jewish and/or Christian men
Then come slave Jewish and/or Christian women.
Each category has rights that must be respected.

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Jihadists are working hard to erase all traces of this article from the internet.

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Khayembii Communique · 12-03-08, 06:56 PM

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The demographic shift of "Palestinians" into Israel proper putting them into the majority leaving the Jews at the mercy of a people who voted for their eradication.

Really? Where did I say that? Or are you making ASSumptions?

Also, Hamas was elected on an anti-corruption platform and not an anti-Israel one.

partier9 · 12-03-08, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jin1776

Good for them they also started the war by kidnapping Israeli soldiers under the cover of a rocket barrage into Israeli civilian neighborhoods.

Yes they did that is why about 95% of the time i don't like what they do or how they do it. (it might be a little lower or higher because I don't know every bad or good they have done.)

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Yes to Hamas	2	4.55%
Yes to Hezbollah	2	4.55%
Yes to both	6	13.64%
No to Hamas	5	11.36%
No to Hezbollah	3	6.82%
No to both	32	72.73%
other (please specify)	5	11.36%
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