shiznit770

Extermination of an ethnic group or removal of a country? The right-wing Israeli party (predicted to win in the coming election) has a charter with similar sentiments towards a Palestinian state.

Likud

I don't agree with Hamas' goals, but I think it is unfair to put their worst elements against Israel's best.

jin1776

The exermination of an ethnic group and the destruction of a country, unlike politically correct western useful idiots Hamas doesn't hide its anti-semitism under code words like "zionists" and "likudniks" rather Hama's wish to exterminate the Jewish people is right out there in the open, if you know where to look:

The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).

And their calls for the destruction of the Israeli state:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."


Hamas Charter

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A) There is no Palestinian state so not accepting the two state solution is not the equivalent of trying to destroy an existing state.

B) Likud supports nominal self rule for the disputed territories and calls for peaceful coexistence.

C) Likud doesn't call for the extermination of Arabs.

D) Likud has been severely marginalized and most of its members left and formed Kadima including their party leader Ariel Sharone, because Likud refused to accept the two state solution and they knew that the majority of Israelis support the two state solution.


If you want to compare them to a terrorist organization like Kahane or some other Jewish terrorist group go head but they are not the equivalent of the Likud party, not by a long shot.

shiznit770

Land, Land, Land. The quote about an attack on the Jews of Israel corresponding to the end of the world is from the old testament, you should read it.

I never said they were equal, I just pointed out how you were comparing the worst to the best in order to further an agenda instead of seeking the truth.

jin1776

No actually its from the Hadiths and it's, also, in the Hamas charter and in it they, also, state that they are "looking forward to implement" that promise, that was a call to exterminate the Jews, not the state of Israel but THE JEWS, that's what it says and is not open for interpretation, the words are clear "kill the Jews".

Yes Hamas would be the worse of Palestinian society, unfortunately the majority of Palestinians support this modern incarnation of the Nazi party.

Fitnah

That's absurd!

Israel is basically a carbon copy of Nazi Germany.

The Zionists are NO different than Hitler and his genocidal tactics of oppression and brutality.

jin1776

Yes with their free and fair elections and their full and equal rights for all Israeli citizens regardless of race, sex, or creed.

It was the so called "palestinians" who elected a group which calls for the extermination of an entire ethnic group, Israelis on the other hand elected a party which supports the two state solution. It is the majority party of the "palestinians" who upon obtaining power set about destroying the democratic institutions that brought them into power and leaving in its place a theocratic dictatorship.

Iriemon

Becoming an Israeli citizen just happens to be a heck of a lot easier if you're Jewish.

The discrimination come in who gets to be an Israeli citizen.

jin1776

Um so now we're basing what does and does not constitute a discriminatory state not based on how they treat their citizens but which people they allow to become citizens? Give me a freaking break. Israel does not discriminate against its own citizens, a sovereign country has every right to decide who can and can not become citizens, every country in the world has immigration guidelines of one kind or another, of course the only home land for the Jewish people on the planet is going to have an immigration policy which will keep a Jewish majority, that is not a violation of human rights by any standard.