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Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

Franken is getting 5 to 1 benefits in these recounts compared to other recounts. furthermore ballots "found" in trunks, and a vote counter claimed he missed 100 votes that all go for franken....


Here is your election fraud, and this is to help dear leader obama get that filibuster proof majority.


FOXNews.com - Minnesota Ripe for Election Fraud - Opinion


This should make all of us sick.




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Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct -- Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior -- a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.

To put this change in perspective, that single precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.
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Old 11-11-08, 09:34 AM   #2
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Re: Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

It looks like Gore in Florida to me. Democrats are crooks as usual, got to cheat and steal their way into power. Power is all that matters, as I've said, and that's all that will every matter. Power and control over your every move in life like the communists that they are.
Congratulations on electing that assclown, Franken, you Stalinists!
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Re: Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

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Franken is getting 5 to 1 benefits in these recounts compared to other recounts. furthermore ballots "found" in trunks, and a vote counter claimed he missed 100 votes that all go for franken....


Here is your election fraud, and this is to help dear leader obama get that filibuster proof majority.


FOXNews.com - Minnesota Ripe for Election Fraud - Opinion


This should make all of us sick.
I read this the other day. With the claims that Fox reports, it certainly does look suspicious. I hope that this will be watched by Republicans (I doubt Democrats would be believed or trusted). I do think it is important that such things are investigated and that we are able to believe in our election process.

If there is a way for fraud to have occurred, and no way to tell if it has, that will be very disturbing. Minnesotans deserve to have the person they elected as their representative.
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Re: Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

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This should make all of us sick.
Funny, for 8 years, Democrats have been called conspiracy theorists when they questioned the outcome of the election. Bradblog (a longtime election reform advocate) addresses your "concerns" here:


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Republicanist John Hinderaker of PowerLine, Newcomer to Election Integrity Concerns, Charges 'Signs of Fraud' Without Any Such Evidence...
The BRAD BLOG : Rightwing Conspiracy Theory Bloggers Don Tinfoil Hats for Franken/Coleman U.S. Senate Race in MN
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Re: Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

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It looks like Gore in Florida to me. Democrats are crooks as usual, got to cheat and steal their way into power. Power is all that matters, as I've said, and that's all that will every matter. Power and control over your every move in life like the communists that they are.
Congratulations on electing that assclown, Franken, you Stalinists!
Maybe I read it wrong. But didn't the OP state that the majority of the votes found, that were somehow cast aside, favored the democrats? Why would the democrats want to hide votes for their own guys? That doesn't add up at all. Are you suggesting that democrat stealing, cheating, crooks, hid votes from their own party?

To me, Franken is a clown and will always be a clown. Perhaps I watched too much Saturday Night Live in my younger days. But by all appearances, it seems that it is more likely that the republican factions at play here tried to manipulate the vote. If it were the republicans that were getting the bump, I would certainly suspect the democrats of fraud. But as it is, it's the democrats that were denied the newly discovered uncounted votes, therefore, logically, the finger is pointing at the republicans.

Regardless of where anyone stands along partisan lines, we should all agree, as Americans, that our electorial process should me considered sacred to us all and any manipulation, by any party, is unforgivable.

As I told the whiney libs when their butt-boy Gore lost. "Get over it."
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Maybe I read it wrong. But didn't the OP state that the majority of the votes found, that were somehow cast aside, favored the democrats? Why would the democrats want to hide votes for their own guys? That doesn't add up at all. Are you suggesting that democrat stealing, cheating, crooks, hid votes from their own party?
Sounds like if there was any voter "fraud" it was by the Republicans in the initial count, now being corrected on the recount.

The OP presents no evidence of fraud in the recount, or suggest that it is not being monitored by Republican representatives, other than the fact that the ballots that were uncounted in the initial count were mostly Democratic.
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Sounds like if there was any voter "fraud" it was by the Republicans in the initial count, now being corrected on the recount.

The OP presents no evidence of fraud in the recount, or suggest that it is not being monitored by Republican representatives, other than the fact that the ballots that were uncounted in the initial count were mostly Democratic.
Exactly.

That is why I was wondering why American was lambasting the dems over this.

After the Florida and Ohio fiascos, the republicans should tread lightly.
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Re: Obama/Franken voter fraud recount

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Maybe I read it wrong. But didn't the OP state that the majority of the votes found, that were somehow cast aside, favored the democrats? Why would the democrats want to hide votes for their own guys? That doesn't add up at all. Are you suggesting that democrat stealing, cheating, crooks, hid votes from their own party?

To me, Franken is a clown and will always be a clown. Perhaps I watched too much Saturday Night Live in my younger days. But by all appearances, it seems that it is more likely that the republican factions at play here tried to manipulate the vote. If it were the republicans that were getting the bump, I would certainly suspect the democrats of fraud. But as it is, it's the democrats that were denied the newly discovered uncounted votes, therefore, logically, the finger is pointing at the republicans.

Regardless of where anyone stands along partisan lines, we should all agree, as Americans, that our electorial process should me considered sacred to us all and any manipulation, by any party, is unforgivable.

As I told the whiney libs when their butt-boy Gore lost. "Get over it."
I don't agree with you about 'getting over it'. We must be vigilant, and we must insist that elections be accurate.

As for it being Republican fraud, perhaps. However, it could be Democrat fraud as well: There could have been ballots where the voter left the Senate race blank, and some fraudster filled those all in for Franken. Later, when the vote was counted again, it was 'corrected'.

I will wait to see what is described as possible and how it would be possible and whether or not it would be likely, etc etc. But, I won't ignore any claims of fraud out of hand.
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What does this have to do with Obama?
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What does this have to do with Obama?



he wins, super majority, no filibusters.


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