Billo_Really

He's on record as saying Hussein wouldn't allow inspectors back into the country when they were already in the country. If that's not good enough for you, I'm sorry.

Voidwar

If you like.

I reject your distinction. Islam IS all one team, regardless of rival factions within it.

When the other town's football team comes to beat you, they bring offensive, defensive , and special teams squads. These squads may squabble between themselves, but they all came to your town to beat your team. They also bring waterboys and cheerleaders and equipment managers who will NEVER take the field, but those people came to defeat you also.

obvious Child

All it proves is that Dubya lied about inspectors. The real issue is whether or not he lied about the WMD intel. That is the jackpot. If tapes come to light revealing Bush acknowledging he knew the intel was wrong or someone telling him that he intel was wrong, then we could conclusively argue he lied with the exception of delusionality.

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obvious Child

I take it you also think that Christanity is all one team? Cold War Mentality you have.

Work on your trolling.

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Billo_Really

I proved in those half-dozen posts what he lied and when he lied, lie by lie, and I challenge anyone to specifically tell me which one was not a lie.

Aside from that, you and I will have to agree to disagree on this for another day. You debate well and honorably, despite our differences.

Voidwar

Oh, I'm sorry, did you just try that intellectually dishonest tactic I was mentioning earlier ? The one where small minds can't stay on topic and claim the misbehavior of another is some kind of defense ? Does it ever make you wonder why you CAN'T talk about Islam in and of itself ? I don't give 2 schlitz about ANYTHING you try to bring up about Christianity, as the mere fact it is about Chrisitianity, in this discussion of Islam, makes it a red herring, and irrelevant.

Work on your ability to stay on topic.

obvious Child

Just trying to get a feel for what you actually believe.

You really think that Islam is a monolith, that all sects work together towards a unified goal, that they don't act as balances upon another?

I ask you then, why were the Sunnis and Shias butchering each other? After all, you said they are one team. One team doesn't specifically target itself for brutal elimination.

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Voidwar

Apparently some work on comprehension is also called for.

obvious Child

Except that they were more interested in killing each other then in killing the Americans. Furthermore, don't forget that the biggest gains in Iraq was by turning groups on each other. The Sunni Awakening Councils essentially destroyed Al Quada in the Sunni Triangle. Not exactly a monolith. On top of that, some of the biggest gains in Indonesia and the Philippines was due to Muslim terrorists joining our side. Again, hardly "one team." Even more so, liberal Muslims in Canada and the US denounced the actions of terrorists and current support for Bin Laden is pretty paltry in the Muslim world. Again not "one team."
Turkey, a Muslim nation stands as a secular one, which aspects of its country willing to overthrow the government to maintain secularism. That's light years away from the Theocracy in Iran.

And squabble doesn't suggest sect-ocide.

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Voidwar

So you have pointed out several factions.

I told you I don't care.

Name ONE of those "factions" that doesn't want Sharia Law on the PLANET.

If they don't then they aren't Muslim in the first place, as the Dar al Harb and the Dar al Islam are specifically defined in the Koran, and what is to be done with the Dar al Harb is quite clear, war on it till its all conquered, and becomes Dar al Islam.

Muslims don't disagree with the Koran, if they do, they aren't Muslims anymore. If they disagree with other Muslims, what do I care ? If the disagreement comes to violence, again, what do I care ?

Who gives a crap if the opposing teams offense and defense squads fought each other before gameday ?

The infighting you mention, does nothing to change the things I have said.

If some Sunni Arab Warlord gains prestige within his sect for stomping some Shia group, why do I care ? If my enemies fight amongst themselves, it does nothing to convince me that they are not my enemies. Both of these rivals would love to impose Sharia on the rest of the world, but they are weak, with little ability to project force, so they gain small local prestige within their sect by attacking the rival sect next door.