Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush?

obvious Child · 11-10-08, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Sick to death of idiots trying to deny Islam's responsibility with a straight face and feigned ignorance.
If YOU deny Islam's responsibility, then your ignorance is not feigned.

There is a distinction that needs to be made here.

Islam can be blamed in two ways. One, for creating such whackjobs through its ideology, and two failing to reel them in. The first is somewhat questionable as Islam is not a monolith. There are varying degrees and interpretations. Wahhabism, the state religion of Saudi Arabia is a particularly extremist version. Liberal interpretations however are often seen in Canada. To blame Islam entirely for the whackjobs based on ideology seems foolish as there is no singular interpretation of Islam. It would be like blaming Christianity for the acts of a few Pentecostals.

However, I'd agree that Islam IS responsible through its failure to reel in its whackjobs. Christanity tends to do a good job here, preventing it crazies from reaching critical mass.

Voidwar · 11-10-08, 12:30 AM

To get back to the topic, this newbie deserves everything done to Bush.

I figure I'll start off by saying he's not MY president, , ,

and cite the fact that MY president could not have an illegal alien aunt and condone her status and her continued illegal presence.

Oh, and this newbie is corrupt for sure, just because of who he was in business with before this job. Real Estate swindles and influence peddling in Chicago are just as bad as working for an oil company, and illegal to boot. Last I heard it was legal to work for an oil company.

Billo_Really · 11-10-08, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Well, then we all know your thinking apparatus is woefully inadequate.

Name the last city they attacked with a death toll of 1000.

Or admit you are just trying to moral relativist your way out of LOSING.

Every time someone tries to bag on Christianity, I laugh at their intellectual dishonesty, and remind them of this . . .

So, now that we understand that bringing up Christianity is the deceptive ploy of a loser, we can disregard any further discussion of that irrelevant and red herring issue.

Fallujah!..

obvious Child · 11-10-08, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

Alright, I'm going to break my word...

Yes we do know!

He stated himself that Hussein wouldn't allow inspector's back into the country, while inspectors were IN the country!

Anyway you want to look at that, it comes up a lie!

Tapes man. TAPES! Or DVDs. Or some kind of audio recording! A mp3 on an iPod will work!

Voidwar · 11-10-08, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

Fallujah!..

Was this before or after the multi-cultural, multi-faith U.S. Army attacked it ?

Why didn't I hear about this alleged "evangelical christian" armed force ?

I know for certain you can't be talking about the U.S. Military, as they do not meet your criteria, so when was this other attack, and why didn't I hear about it ?

You just lost again Bildo.

obvious Child · 11-10-08, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Why didn't I hear about this alleged "evangelical christian" armed force ?
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According to 2001 data, 68% were Christian

Statistical Resources on the Web/Military

Voidwar · 11-10-08, 12:46 AM

Did that 68% break off, separate themselves by religion and then attack Fallujah in the name of their god ? ? ?

Or have I won this argument ? ? ?

obvious Child · 11-10-08, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Did that 68% break off, separate themselves by religion and then attack Fallujah in the name of their god ? ? ?

Or have I won this argument ? ? ?

I don't actually know what you and bilo are discussing. I just added some facts.

Btw, are you going to respond to post #91?

Billo_Really · 11-10-08, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by obvious Child

Tapes man. TAPES! Or DVDs. Or some kind of audio recording! A mp3 on an iPod will work!

How about a transcript?

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For the third time since the war began three years ago, Bush had falsely claimed that Saddam refused the U.N. weapons inspections mandated by the Security Council. For the third time, he had denied a reality witnessed by the entire world during the four months when those inspectors, under the direction of Hans Blix, traveled Iraq searching fruitlessly for weapons of mass destruction that, as we now know for certain, were not there.

But forget about whether the weapons were there for a moment. The inspectors definitely went to Iraq. They left only because the United States warned them to get out before the bombs started to fall on March 19, 2003. But for some reason the president of the United States keeps saying -- in public and on the record -- that the inspectors weren't there.

So yes, he lied to the nation!

obvious Child · 11-10-08, 12:57 AM

About inspectors. You're going to have to do a lot better then that.

Like Dubya on audio saying he knew the intel was wrong but pushed it anyways. Or Powell telling Dubya that the intel was wrong. Something along that nature.

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11-10-08, 12:30 AM	#92
Voidwar Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Last Seen: 12-29-09 09:41 AM Posts: 5,122 Thanks: 408 Thanked 606 Times in 450 Posts	Re: Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush? To get back to the topic, this newbie deserves everything done to Bush. I figure I'll start off by saying he's not MY president, , , and cite the fact that MY president could not have an illegal alien aunt and condone her status and her continued illegal presence. Oh, and this newbie is corrupt for sure, just because of who he was in business with before this job. Real Estate swindles and influence peddling in Chicago are just as bad as working for an oil company, and illegal to boot. Last I heard it was legal to work for an oil company.

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Voidwar Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Last Seen: 12-29-09 09:41 AM Posts: 5,122 Thanks: 408 Thanked 606 Times in 450 Posts	Re: Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush? Did that 68% break off, separate themselves by religion and then attack Fallujah in the name of their god ? ? ? Or have I won this argument ? ? ?

11-10-08, 12:57 AM	#100
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