Have we recreated slavery?

macklin · 10-24-08, 03:46 AM

These are the various definitiions of slavery that I found.

A state of subjection like that of a slave: He was kept in slavery by drugs.

severe toil; drudgery.(Prison is toil and drugery)

slav·er·y (slā'və-rē, slāv'rē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. slav·er·ies

The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household. (this one is beautiful. It binds a man to a household)

The practice of owning slaves. (women own men)

A condition of hard work and subjection: wage slavery.

slavery

noun
1. the state of being under the control of another person (a man is under the control of a woman)
3. work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay (this is the best one yet. In prison, the prisoner is given little pay)

Slavery

Slav"er*y\, n.; pl. Slaveries. [See 2d Slave.]

1. The condition of a slave; the state of entire subjection of one person to the will of another. (subjection of males to the will of females)

2. A condition of subjection or submission characterized by lack of freedom of action or of will. (males often lack the freedom to drive, the freedom to get a passport, the freedom to not be harassed for support even if ill, injured, or laid off)

I thought the definitions would sound harsher than they do.

The definitions seem to simply mean that one does hard work for the benefit of another ... that clearly sounds like the Child Support System, and especially once the person is put in jail without due process.

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:04 AM

YouTube - Slavery reinstituted in America

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:11 AM

YouTube - Slavery reinstituted in America pt2

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:19 AM

New High In U.S. Prison Numbers - washingtonpost.com

one in 100 americans are in prison...

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:19 AM

YouTube - Slavery reinstituted in America pt3

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:25 AM

U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations - International Herald Tribune

United states has 5% of the world populations, but it holds 25% of the world's prisoners. 2.3 million americans. China is next with half at 1.6 million.

Most american prisoners are forced to work or face punishment or solitary confinement...

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:33 AM

Texas likely to get caught up in profitable prison-building boom | pegasusnews.com | Dallas / Fort Worth

the big business of prisons

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:40 AM

YouTube - Modern Day Slavery: Racism and the Drug War

macklin · 10-24-08, 04:44 AM

I think I am starting to see something else...

Why would you keep a man's payment obligation at his former income level for child support even if he is unemployed?

Why would you take away his driver's license?

Why take away his business license?

Why point him in jail and keep the child support juice flowing?

So that his only option to make money is criminal activity and thus then he may even get a longer jail sentence, more slave labor.

A man desperate to catch up on child support may sell drugs just until he catches up but if he's caught, selling drugs now has minimum of five years...

At least five years of slave labor.

shiznit770 · 10-24-08, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macklin

I think I am starting to see something else...

Why would you keep a man's payment obligation at his former income level for child support even if he is unemployed?

Why would you take away his driver's license?

Why take away his business license?

Why point him in jail and keep the child support juice flowing?

So that his only option to make money is criminal activity and thus then he may even get a longer jail sentence, more slave labor.

A man desperate to catch up on child support may sell drugs just until he catches up but if he's caught, selling drugs now has minimum of five years...

At least five years of slave labor.

Just a suggestion, posting 5 posts before anyone responds is not encouraging anyone to debate this issue. You are throwing everything in at once. If you want people to debate you, focus on a concise point and work from their with them. If you make long posts back to back people may accuse you of "muddying the waters" or "ranting".

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macklin Student Join Date: Aug 2008 Last Seen: 06-03-09 04:41 AM Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Gender:	Re: Have we recreated slavery? These are the various definitiions of slavery that I found. A state of subjection like that of a slave: He was kept in slavery by drugs. severe toil; drudgery.(Prison is toil and drugery) slav·er·y (slā'və-rē, slāv'rē) Pronunciation Key n. pl. slav·er·ies The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household. (this one is beautiful. It binds a man to a household) The practice of owning slaves. (women own men) A condition of hard work and subjection: wage slavery. slavery noun 1. the state of being under the control of another person (a man is under the control of a woman) 3. work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay (this is the best one yet. In prison, the prisoner is given little pay) Slavery Slav"er*y\, n.; pl. Slaveries. [See 2d Slave.] 1. The condition of a slave; the state of entire subjection of one person to the will of another. (subjection of males to the will of females) 2. A condition of subjection or submission characterized by lack of freedom of action or of will. (males often lack the freedom to drive, the freedom to get a passport, the freedom to not be harassed for support even if ill, injured, or laid off) I thought the definitions would sound harsher than they do. The definitions seem to simply mean that one does hard work for the benefit of another ... that clearly sounds like the Child Support System, and especially once the person is put in jail without due process.

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macklin Student Join Date: Aug 2008 Last Seen: 06-03-09 04:41 AM Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Gender:	Re: Have we recreated slavery? U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations - International Herald Tribune United states has 5% of the world populations, but it holds 25% of the world's prisoners. 2.3 million americans. China is next with half at 1.6 million. Most american prisoners are forced to work or face punishment or solitary confinement...

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macklin Student Join Date: Aug 2008 Last Seen: 06-03-09 04:41 AM Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Gender:	Re: Have we recreated slavery? I think I am starting to see something else... Why would you keep a man's payment obligation at his former income level for child support even if he is unemployed? Why would you take away his driver's license? Why take away his business license? Why point him in jail and keep the child support juice flowing? So that his only option to make money is criminal activity and thus then he may even get a longer jail sentence, more slave labor. A man desperate to catch up on child support may sell drugs just until he catches up but if he's caught, selling drugs now has minimum of five years... At least five years of slave labor.

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