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Old 10-25-08, 10:02 PM   #101
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A daughter writes a letter expressing herself after her father kills himself.

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"Darrin White, a Canadian father who was stripped of the right to see his children and was about to be jailed after failing to pay a child support award tantamount to twice his take home pay, hung himself. His 14 year-old daughter Ashlee later wrote to her nation's Prime Minister, saying, "this country's justice system has robbed me of one of the most precious gifts in my life, my father."
A medal of honor winner kills himself after being continually attacked through the legal system by his ex wife.

"For example, New York City Police Officer Martin Romanchick, a Medal of Honor recipient, hung himself after being denied access to his children and being arrested 15 times on charges brought by his ex-wife, charges the courts deemed frivolous."

glennsacks.com | Distraught Father's Courthouse Suicide Highlights America's Male Suicide Epidemic
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Old 10-25-08, 10:09 PM   #102
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Worldwide men are killing themselves at increasing rates... mostly because of being denied rights to children, yet being forced to pay for them....

FOXNews.com - Are Fathers' Rights a Factor in Male Suicide? - Opinion

Even the fourteen year old girl who lost her father can see how her father felt he had not justice left.

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"I know my father was a good man and a good father. ... He obviously reached a point where he could see that justice was beyond his reach and for reasons that only God will know, decided that taking his life was the only way to end his suffering," Ashlee White wrote. Ashlee signed the letter "In Memory of My Loving Father."
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Old 10-25-08, 10:32 PM   #103
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These men are willing to and have killed themselves to have rights to their own children....

Fathers 4 suicide | Unidentified dad vows to hang at judge's home in protest | News | News Of The World

This is rather insightful ... that by making males and females fight each other the government becomes stronger... that is what I deduced before.

MY ESTIMATION:
Men -90
Women -50
Children -75
American People in General -40
Government +25
Politicians +20

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What we have here is a failure to communicate. The bare nuts of this is evil. Our so called system is designed for one purpose. To destroy the family unit. Just like Stalin (who happens to be the author of a large portion of our family laws. check it out) did in Russia. Weaker families produce weaker people. weaker people are more easily governed. It is a sick and twisted testament to the fact that we have become a nation of cattle. Herded into categories labeled and processed without any real rights or liberties. If you don't believe this just get involved in the court system. Fathers have all the rights of an accused criminal. That means that if you can afford it you may find some form of justice. If you don't have the resources your screwed and become another cog in the wheel.
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Old 10-25-08, 10:36 PM   #104
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By Lisa Kinghorn. Posted September 28 2008 at 4:25 PM.


"Chris", "Sarah" and "Sam" -- your posts are completely moronic. Study some history.
In the history of slavery, under which men were denied normal human rights, it was not uncommon for these humanly abused slaves to rise up and attack their self-declared "masters". Can you comprehend a slave lashing back at the system which enslaves him? And when the system is so insidious as to use the slave's wife/children as the agents of the crime against the slave, does it surprise you that some of the slaves lash out at them? The system in causing these crimes which is then uses as the justification for itself. You two need to study a bit of history.
I love this woman ... she expresses the female interpretation of EXACTLY what I feel is going on.

Fathers 4 suicide | Unidentified dad vows to hang at judge's home in protest | News | News Of The World
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Old 10-26-08, 03:07 AM   #105
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I am still piecing this together but this is what I am slowly figuring out

A large amount of wealth, supposedly 1 billion dollars, can seap through numerous media outlets, television ads, magazine articles, newspaper articles, movie scripts, entire magazines ... televison news reports ... which advocate something. In our case. 1. divorce 2. that women are opressed and or beaten 3. women can get child support.

One of the main examples that someone pointed out to me is the classic women's entertainment movie. The recipe is ... he starts out nice, then he drinks, then he hits, then she fights back, then she leaves, then he's screwed.

One female told me should could think of fifteen movies that all had almost exactly the same plot as if it was one writer contiually writing the same plot.
Delany or Kim DeLanee something like that is one of the main actresses as I have been told I'll look into it.

So a large amount of PRO DIVORCE, ANTI MALE, ANTI DEAD BEAT DAD media can be produced from multiple angles, even paying professors to produce more articles.

WEALTH INFLUENCES MEDIA.

The media then influence about only 8% of the population a year to move in a certain direction that they otherwise wouldn't have, but after fifteen years of the same message that climbing 8% becomes the prevailing concept.

WEALTH INFLUENCES MEDIA PROMOTES DIVORCE

So then people get divorced. The majority of men pay child support but about forty percent don't, but this is because they are angry abou the divorce, or they feel that they were falsely accused of things

WEALTH INFLUENCES MEDIA PROMOTES DIVORCE CREATES ANGRY CHILD SUPPORT MALES

Males who refuse to pay child support because of mistreatment or resentment do three things, successfully flee for a very long time or even leave the country, flee momentarily but then get caught and then catch up and act obediently to the system, but the last categogy about a third of the fleers, flee, get caught THEN RESORT TO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY to pay for back support

WEALTH INFLUENCES MEDIA PROMOTES DIVORCE CREATES ANGRY CHILD SUPPORT MALES WHO COMMIT CRIMES OF ANGER OR TO PAY SUPPORT.

Angry males or males who need to pay suppport commit crimes. About half of all criminal activity is solved, half unsolved, with fluctuations.

Making males depressed, angry, disgruntled increases the crime rate. Increased crime rates increase the prison population. In prison just 100 more males can create 36 million dollars worth of revenue from behind bars after a five year period.

100 males

25 dollars an hour (revenue, not salary) (salary is usually half of what the person in a free market generates) (such as an accountant is worth 70 an hour to a firm but the firm only pays him 35 an hour because they claim they bore the risk of opening the firm he didn't so they keep half.)

8 hours a day

365 days a year. So people tell me prisoners work everyday, some say they don't some say they work ten hours for five days, which is about the say as eight hours for seven days... so I figure that out too.

5 years is a typical mandatory minimum for selling drugs

equals 36,500,000 in revenue, but the salary to pay these individuals is not half of what they generate, it is only 19 cents an hour. 100 men for 5 years 365 days a year 8 hours a day only costs 277,000 for all of them.

That's a clear generation of 36 million in revenue and the amount not paid to the slave laborers adds to the profit. Normal biz profit is 15%. Of 36 mil is about 6 mil. But again, because they are not paying a full wage, 18 million is all profit... as well. 6 mil normal profit plus 18 million.

So what I am saying is this. 100 men in prison for five years generates for the corporation that exploits them about 24 million in profit. Opposingly, on the outside 100 male workers genrate only 6 million profit(considering that they work everyday straight for five year.)

In the free world men work about 260 days a year. 100 men for 260 days for five years equates to 3.9 million in profit after five years.

100 free men are worth 3.9 million in five years
100 enslaved prisoners are worth 24 million in five years.

And that's only if one hundred men sell drugs and get caught nationwide.

From state to state drug offenses account from thirty to sixty percetn of prison population. How men of those men were selling drugs to aford child support or go to jail anyway laws.

WEALTH INFLUENCES MEDIA PROMOTES DIVORCE ... DIVORCE CREATES ANGRY CHILD SUPPORT MALES WHO COMMIT CRIMES OF ANGER OR TO PAY SUPPORT ... THE CRIMES LEAD TO PRISON ... PRISON EXPLOITS SLAVE LABOR ... SLAVE LABOR LEADS TO WEALTH FOR THE WEALTHY ... (start at the top again) WEATLH INFLUENCES MEDIA ... and so on.

The wealthy must know that economically frustrating males increases the crime rate... We have a general concept in our society that when the economy is bad crime goes up... well we've made the economy of raising a child bad for men for fifteen year now... and so the crime went up ... from about 500 per 100 000 people to 1000 per 100 000 people in just ten years.

So frustrate the males with divorce and child support laws that will lead them toward frustration, crime, violence, and drug sales to escape the divorce-child support trap ... more crime, more prisoners, more prisoners, more prison profit, more prison profit, more wealth for the wealthy, more wealth for the wealthy, more men to funnel into the media to encourage more divorce.

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wbztv.com - Chicago Pulls Racy Billboard Encouraging Divorce

a billboard suggesting divorce
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Old 10-26-08, 03:49 AM   #107
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Doesn't it seem ironic that

T. Rowe Price
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Wells Fargo actually own part of GEO, the prison corporaton that is traded publically on the stock market...

Why are BANKS in the PRISON business. Oh, wait banks usually now what is going to be profitable.

GEO: Major Holders for GEO GROUP INC (THE) - Yahoo! Finance
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in 2007 this one company that accounts for about twenty five percent of the prison prof business ... generated 1 billion in revenue... yet consider that because they are continually expanding so fast that they are not keeping that one billion in profit as they are investing it in new facilities like a new florida special prison with two thousand beds. A NICE NEW ADDITON.

GEO: Income Statement for GEO GROUP INC (THE) - Yahoo! Finance

Does any one else think that it is odd that you and I can own part of a prison.... in which people are abused, tortured, rape and financially exploited.

I don't know about you but I would be ashamed to have a prison on my portfolio.... it just seems... well. ... like slavery

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Corrections Corporation of America

1.6 Billion..... in revenue last year

Corrections Corporation of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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triple stock growth in five years from 9 to 27...

CXW: Summary for CORR CP OF AM (NEW) - Yahoo! Finance

so how did the top two profit prisons in the United States do compared to the Dow in the last five years.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CXW#chart2:symbol=cxw;range=5y;compare=g eo+^dji;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair= on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Isn't that beautiful... at one point it was nearly three times higher than the dow jones in performance over a five year period.
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