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Old 10-16-08, 11:59 AM   #61
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Re: Joe the Plumber - post your truths here

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What's to defend? Obama was asked and he answered. Its the same thing he's been saying, no change, nothing new.
What's to defend? Perhaps Obama should defend his desire and clear intent to shift the American political system from a democratic republic to socialism.
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What's to defend? Obama was asked and he answered.
If theres no big deal here, then why are there so many attacks on Joe?
If you were right, the reaction would be 'who cares?", and it would go away.

Instead, you, the other Obamistinians, and your allies in the media, feel the need to defend your saviour by attacking the guy that dared to question him.

Your action speak far louder than your words.
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If he's not registered to vote, does that mean he's ineligible to ask Obama a question??

Or does that make him exempt from Obama's taxes??
The way I see it, people who don't vote don't have any reason to complain. However, the jury is still out on whether or not Joe the Plumber is registered. With a name like his, somebody just probably misspelled it and came up with nothing.

As far as rights go, along with rights come responsibilities.
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If theres no big deal here, then why are there so many attacks on Joe?
If you were right, the reaction would be 'who cares?", and it would go away.

Instead, you, the other Obamistinians, and your allies in the media, feel the need to defend your saviour by attacking the guy that dared to question him.

Your action speak far louder than your words.
You're the one who keeps bringing up Obama, not me. I've been discussing a man who seems to be intent on misrepresenting himself so he can get 15 minutes of fame.
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Please define "a lot of small businesses," preferrably with %'s, and provide a link.
Well I don't have links, because I don't have a study on the internet about the businesses I worked with. I am just talking about my experiences working with small businesses. Alot of them had profits over $250,000 and they are all what I would categorize as small businesses. You don't have to believe me, I'm just relating my experience as it relates to this subject matter.

They were actually the best businesses to work with. The larger businesses simply required too much time and pampering to be worth the headache, plus they always shopped around for a better deal and were hit up by other salesmen all the time, and the tiny business that struggled to stay afloat usually would have trouble with payments or would shop around for a better deal as well. Those small businesses with solid financial backgrounds, but were still small ventures always appreciated the work put in by myself and usually paid the bills on time. Sure there was always attrition, but the attrition rates for big companies and tiny businesses made it so they weren't really worth my time. Thus, I had targeted more stable small businesses who had solid financial credentials.
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You're the one who keeps bringing up Obama, not me. I've been discussing a man who seems to be intent on misrepresenting himself so he can get 15 minutes of fame.

The only reason you care is because of the negative effect he may have on the Obama campaign.
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Well I don't have links
That's OK -- neither does he.
Until he comes up with information similar to that he asked from you, I'd not feel too compelled to try to prove your statement.
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Now, here's a real plumber.

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The only reason you care is because of the negative effect he may have on the Obama campaign.
No, I only care because I don't like people misrepresenting themselves. You will find it impossible to find any post wherein I expound on the wonderfulness of Obama. Not here, not anywhere.
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That's OK -- neither does he.
Until he comes up with information similar to that he asked from you, I'd not feel too compelled to try to prove your statement.
Well Summerwind is a she. Just to clarify.

I've always admitted on this forum, I am not a link hawk. If I was, I could research and find something on the internet, post it to substantiate my claim and then have a back and forth argument as to the validity of my source. I apologize if I don't like to get into the same old tired circular arguments that many people do. And you won't see me asking for links very often either.
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