aps

LOL Of course this is the fault of the liberal machine. Jeez, Felicity, you have no credibility.

Felicity

If you go to my original Obama abortion thread and click the link, it will take you to the pdf file still.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057756335-post29.html

Summerwind

Tin foil?

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Felicity

Go to the document and you will see Obama's a liar about his position on the abortion issue. He wants to redefine personhood to allow born human infants to die because mommy wanted a dead baby.

Felicity

I'm only paranoid if it isn't true.

aps

I know--I've been silenced! What are we--in North Korea? In China?

Felicity

Not yet.

Dr_Patrick

I give the first 20-30 minutes of the debate to McCain, no question. I think that McCain's obviously strongest moment was when he told Obama "I'm not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago." I was quite taken aback and impressed by McCain when he said this. If we had seen McCain like this during the last two debates, his polling numbers would probably be a lot higher right now. I also kind of chuckled when McCain "accidentally" called Obama "Senator Government".

However, McCain started slipping during the last portion of the debate. Throughout McCain started getting more and more visibly disgusted and angry by comments made by Obama. Obama throughout was calm and collected as he has been in the last two debates and only smiled when his opponent attacked him. I'd say that McCain spent a larger portion of the debate attacking Obama and Obama spent a larger portion talking about his own policies and views. He even had enough restraint to not attack Palin during the entire debate. This is why I give a very very slight edge to Obama on this one. I will give props to McCain, though, for finally being as aggressive as he needed to be. I was quite impressed for how he handled himself during this debate. Unfortunately, I think he decided to do it a bit too late and I think that both the poll numbers and the election are going to reflect that. I was also actually surprised to see that even Fox News was fairly unanimous that Obama won. Without a doubt, though, this was the absolute best debate of the three. For me it didn't drag on at all.

aps

Interesting take. I thought that his comment about how Obama should have run four years ago was NOT a smart move. He could have made his point by just stating, he was not President Bush. To me, that made him look combative, but not in a good way. Did you hear the audience? I think they thought it was a low blow to make that remark. Maybe his base loved it. The Independents, I suspect, not so much.

PeteEU

best part of the after debate stuff on CNN.. when that duschbag McCain campaign leader slipped up trying to defend McCain by saying something like this..

In the Bu.. McCain adminsitration bla bla bla

That basicly sums up the McBush Campaign, one slip up after another.

McCain was different the first 30 min or so, but then returned to the same old angry guy from the 2 previous debates. I actually saw some of the McCain of pre 2000 during the first 20 to 30 min. After that, McCain shot himself in the foot by dwelling so long on the Ayers crap and then it was down hill there.

Obama looked like a President.. calm and collective, with a bit of a professor like attitude.

McCain looked like an angry old man who could not find his glasses and blamed everyone else but his faulty memory and age for loosing his glasses.

I suspect that Obama will pull even more ahead in the polls after this.. many independents were turned off by the angry attacking McCain.

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