Kick off Debate 3!

UtahBill · 10-16-08, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

Joe the plumber isn't even registered to vote!

This is just too funny. I wonder if the talk/morning shows will be asking him about this tomorrow in his 15 minutes of fame?

Ben Smith's Blog: The Joe file - Politico.com

Joe dumbass!!! if he doesn't hurry up and register, he is too stupid to run a business and better keep working for others....

Summerwind · 10-16-08, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahBill

Very true, the great advantage of self employment is that you can manipulate your taxable income all over the place....if you don't know how to do that, hire an accountant to explain it to you...

Also it is pretty standard to price a business at 2x one year's gross sales, so the biz probably only has $125K in annual sales. Even the best of service industries with no bits and pieces besides phones and office supplies are fortunate to retain 75% in net profit, meaning his business is likely to show at the very best about $95-100K in profit. I bet the guy selling him the biz is grinning ear to ear wrt Joe the plumber's ignorance.

Lerxst · 10-16-08, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

Also it is pretty standard to price a business at 2x one year's gross sales, so the biz probably only has $125K in annual sales. Even the best of service industries with no bits and pieces besides phones and office supplies are fortunate to retain 75% in net profit, meaning his business is likely to show at the very best about $95-100K in profit. I bet the guy selling him the biz is grinning ear to ear wrt Joe the plumber's ignorance.

The story of the Joe the Plumber is pretty compelling...for about the first time you hear it, and until you dig into it just a bit. I just don't think it is an actual portrayal of how things would turn out for this guy. There was never enough info...just this video and the premise that Obama got owned by Joe the Plumber. Yet, did he really? No. Not when you actually take a little bit of time to look at the actual implications for Joe the Plumber under Obama's tax plan.

It's like a ****ing Rubik Cube. Anyway, I don't think it's gone matter. Plus every time McCain brought up Joe the Plumber, his numbers dropped. It's already played out and it just happened.

Summerwind · 10-16-08, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lerxst

The story of the Joe the Plumber is pretty compelling...for about the first time you hear it, and until you dig into it just a bit. I just don't think it is an actual portrayal of how things would turn out for this guy. There was never enough info...just this video and the premise that Obama got owned by Joe the Plumber. Yet, did he really? No. Not when you actually take a little bit of time to look at the actual implications for Joe the Plumber under Obama's tax plan.

It's like a ****ing Rubik Cube. Anyway, I don't think it's gone matter. Plus every time McCain brought up Joe the Plumber, his numbers dropped. It's already played out and it just happened.

What do you mean every time McCain brought him up, his numbers dropped. What were you watching? I watched on ABC, I have only network.

winston53660 · 10-16-08, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

What do you mean every time McCain brought him up, his numbers dropped. What were you watching? I watched on ABC, I have only network.

The cable news guys had a running poll that was live.

NoMoreDems-Reps · 10-16-08, 12:28 AM

Ralph Nader Won This one!

YouTube - Ralph Nader Uses Visual Props
YouTube - Three Way Presidential Debate - Obama, McCain, and Nader
YouTube - Ralph Nader Takes Viewer Questions

marduc · 10-16-08, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

Joe the plumber isn't even registered to vote!

This is just too funny. I wonder if the talk/morning shows will be asking him about this tomorrow in his 15 minutes of fame?

Ben Smith's Blog: The Joe file - Politico.com

Although that is seriously amusing, Ohio does have same day registration.

CaptainCourtesy · 10-16-08, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

i take it commies cant debate the topic and can only go after posters with idiotic inane jibber jabber.....

Moderator's Warning:

Reverend, knock off the name calling.

CaptainCourtesy · 10-16-08, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lerxst

Because you will cry like a girl when I do, you will start a thread about me in the Basement, accuse a mod of being unfair, etc., etc. ad nauseum.

You know you do it, you have been called on it, you have convinced nobody with your sincerity on the issue. You can call foul all you want, but your history says something totally different. One only needs to see view your thread history to see this.

Last post in this thread about this.

Moderator's Warning:

Lexrst, stop addressing the Basement, upstairs or their will be further consequences.

Summerwind · 10-16-08, 01:35 AM

oops, more embarassing news about Joe the plumber. . . you've got to read the whole thing really good.

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Martin Eisenstadt’s Blog Blog Archive Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher related to Charles Keating. Oops.
John McCain did great tonight in the debate. But every time John mentioned “Joe the Plumber,” some of us in the campaign banged our heads against the wall. If Steve Schmidt had any hair left, I hear he would have been pulling it out tonight. He reportedly screamed at John’s debate prep team tonight (out of earshot of reporters, of course). “You idiots - he’s related to Charles Keating… of the Keating Five scandal!” They thought they had a real live Joe Six-Pack who’s spurned Barack Obama’s tax plan. But what they forgot to do was check on Joe Wurzelbacher’s background.<snip>
This might remind you of the Paris Hilton scandal - where one side of the McCain campaign attacked her in an ad, not realizing that her family were huge donors. I was the first to warn the campaign of the perils of miscommunication, and that story flared for a week.

I've never heard of this Eishenstadt guy before, so we'll have to see if any more comes of it; but an interesting read.

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