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What is good about simply trying to register uniformed people who could care less about elections just for the sake of registering them?

Right now in America, most voters can't pick out Joe Biden's picture from a line up, but they certainly ALL know what Judge Judy looks like.

Our founders created the electoral process because they feared an ignorant populace making really bad decisions. Now we see voter drive organizations that pick up the homeless and bus them to polls; is this really the Democratic process?

Voters should be vetted by requiring them to sign up to vote at legitimate outlets, post offices, DMV etc, and should be required to provide a legitimate identification and address.

The notion that Democracy is about getting EVERYONE to vote is idiotic in the extreme. Those who are informed enough on the issues and candidates should be the ones voting and signing up, not the ignorant masses who, if not for the desperate efforts of liberal organizations like Acorn, would care less.

It's quite telling this day and age how ignorant we have become about the right to vote and the responsibility inherent in that privilege. I seriously doubt the fathers of our Constitution thought it was a good idea to ensure the uninformed voted en-masse.

veganshawn

Why do you keep using the term Democracy? The USA has never been a Democracy. Second I disagree if you want freedom then let everyone vote, hell I even think that the voting age should be lowered to 16 and the electoral college should be thrown out or we should have the right to vote in electoral college representatives! And I do agree the masses are ignorant, they voted for Dubya twice, so maybe I should change my mind and limit who can vote, but I am a believer in freedom and have to accept that sometimes people will make ignorant choices, and now we as a country are paying the price for it.
The fathers or Constitution where many different types of people, who in their wildest dreams could have never imagined a world like ours, so instead of keeping our heads in the past, lets look towards the future and improve our country.

You know what though I do agree that voters should be able to identify themselves and have a legitimate address unless they can prove they are homeless and maybe something like the YMCA can be used to get them voting information, I don't think someone should be able to use multiple address to vote like Anne Coultier did, but I think we could come up with ways to allow everyone to be identified without having to have a drivers license. When groups like Acorn sign up people, it is the voting boards responsibility to weed out the bad applications, not Acorns.

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TheNextEra

Ah so you believe the homeless don't have a right to vote, Got it. I must have missed the part in the constitution that says people have to be not only educated, but have a home in order to vote.

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Your record for being wrong is still intact. I didn't suggest that anyone NOT have the right to vote. Please show me where I stated that.

Now, if you’re arguing that we should allow those who are completely ignorant to vote without valid ID, regardless of their status; then yes, you would be correct; I do not support that.

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I see that you either failed US Government in school or skipped those classes. I would love to see your notion of what a Democracy is if the US is not one; although, I fear it will just end up in the circle of futility.

As for your notions about freedom, voting and age for legal voting, those comments show you are confused by your ignorance about how this Government was formed, it's founder’s intent, the Constitution and how a successful Democracy works.

But with that, here is something for you and your fellow Liberals to ponder; If you truly believe that the ignorant masses should be permitted to vote and empowered to vote regardless of their competence, then you are okay with ending up with someone like Hugo Chavez as President right? After all, the ONLY thing that keeps him in power are the ignorant peasants who he panders to while dragging his country’s economy into the toilet and attempts to turn it into a dictatorship.

This is what you get when you have the ignorant masses choosing their representatives. As has been stated in your Government 101 classes all of you apparently failed; for Democracy to work well, a country needs an EDUCATED electorate.

Want proof? Just look at the current level of ignorance the Democrats have in the Congress for your proof; Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Barney Frank….et al.

I voted for George Bush BOTH times; if you are suggesting that I am ignorant, I would be happy to put my resume, education and intelligence up against yours any time.

Carry on; I look forward to more of your confused hysterics.

Goobieman

Voter fraud, when it benefits them, is of no concern to liberals.

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winston53660

The same applies to Conservatives.

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Gill

The election is over for the Dems.

We have total control of all the Diebolds !!!!!!!!

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BWG

I don't know if you would consider these statements as best parts, but they were certainly left out.
And the question I have been searching for, but unable to find. Guess I'll have to keep looking.
As Matthew Yglesias said...(gotta give credit, don't want to be accused of plagiarism...lol)

"If a pharmaceutical company came out with a new anti-depression drug and gave it to a million people suffering from depression, of whom 970,000 were helped you wouldn’t turn around and conclude that the company was perpetrating a deliberate fraud based on the fact that “tens of thousands” of patients got no relief."

Just the right wing noise machine at work, using the 'liberal media' to help perpetuate the hysteria.

Ho-hum, what else is new?...

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RightinNYC

Thank you for providing that video, as it confirmed my exact point. ACORN was one of TEN OR FIFTEEN organizations that "co-sponsored" the event. That obviously means he supports ACORN's actions.

So you don't care when people commit felony vote fraud, so long as it's caught before the election? Great.

And nobody is claiming that this is some mass conspiracy, we're merely pointing out that this organization has a long track record of training and employing people who commit massive voted fraud.

As to your 2 examples - Yea, in those two particular areas the bad card rate was "only" 5%. Does that change the fact that in many other places, such as the ones linked to in the other threads on the topic, the bad card rate was approximately 100%? Or was that just 2100 accidental "bad cards" in a row?

Except no other "pharmaceutical company" has come anywhere near this one in terms of producing massive electoral fraud.

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